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ElEfJay✝️
@Elefjohnson
Christian, husband, father, professional educator. I spend most my time on here talking to myself, just like my classroom.
Oregon, USA Entrou em Nisan 2026
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@heliec574 @CredoMilesX Would that be Greek, Eastern, Russian, Ethiopian? There are subtle differences in each one, yet by your standard only one of them can be correct.
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@CredoMilesX The orthodox Catholic Church has the Fullness of the Truth
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@JeskoRiot @CredoMilesX Well said.
Technology has opened a door for us that has for so long been closed. We've never had the grace to understand and communicate with each other at this level before. I pray we learn to use it wisely.
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@CredoMilesX All baptized Christians are part of the Eclastial community. I believe the dogma of the church is true. If we are going to unify Christianity we cannot continue to talk down to other Christians no matter what they say. It is a struggle. We are living thru something incredible.
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@gonefishin1948 I don't usually take any teaching without questioning. I think it's important to follow-up on the message morning taught with thoughtful meditation, prayer, and study.
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@b1lld0zer @kingofthehood89 @antepedium Call it my own weakness, but I can't wrap my head around the concept of a finite person being able to process and petition for hundreds out thousands of prayers at the same.
There might be something on corporate petitions, no individual petitions seem impossible.
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@Elefjohnson @kingofthehood89 @antepedium Don't need omnipresence to listen to a finite number of prayers from a finite number of Christians in a finite about of time.
God can grant the saints any power he wants, that doesn't make them god.
Pauls handkerchief wasn't part god but it still healed people who touched it.
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The saints are not dead but that is no reason to believe they possess omniscience or are capable of hearing us and bringing our prayers to God’s ears (who doesn’t need them anyway).
That Catholic Guy 🇻🇦@Catholic_bro
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@BillArnoldTeach To some degree, yes. I think guide rails are important. Creeds and confessions are important. But I take issue when the authority makes dogma issues that have no business being dogma.
I know what question comes next, but I'll wait for it.
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@Elefjohnson If Scripture is the final authority,
why are there thousands of conflicting interpretations?
Final authority without a final interpreter is chaos.
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@EricMFriel @antepedium Ok. So fairly, what would be the capacity of Heavenly Saint at any one time?
I didn't expect you to answer that. The point of that no matter what limit you set, it's either way too small, or ridiculous that a finite being would be capable.
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1. Onnipresence is the logical consequence of both omniscience and omnipotence manifest in the same being. It is not relevant here, just food for thought.
2. Omniscience would mean to be of infinite capacity related to being all knowing. While hearing the prayers of millions or even trillions or quadrillions is immense, it is nonetheless finite. Thus, it would not require omniscience.
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@PopeDefendersX Christian. They would all be Christian
Christianity is bigger then the Roman brand.
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Yes, everyone in heaven is Catholic.
What would they even be protestant of?
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@PopeDefendersX @Mount_Defiance Everybody in heaven is Catholic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@antepedium The saints are certainly praying for *us* as the whole church body though.
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@kingofthehood89 @antepedium You would, out omnipresence. How else would they receive all those prayers ask at once.
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@antepedium You don’t need omniscience for that. What a ridiculous argument
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@EricMFriel @antepedium That's exactly why I don't pray to them. Unless they had some kind of omniscience or omnipresence there is no way they could hear the prayers of millions at a time.
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@antepedium It is not Catholic Doctrone to believe that Saints are omniscient. In fact, it would contradict Catholic doctrine.
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@MrCasey62 And yet they do every Sunday in Protestant Churches. And you knew what? It's valid, impactful, and effectual twords sanctification and a right relationship with Jesus.
Your validation isn't necessary.
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@AnsweringRCs @swamthetiber25 I can see an argument that they pray for us in Heaven. This can be supported in Revelation easily enough.
What I can't find is support for petitioning them. And to do so send like it would require attributes of God, otherwise they wouldn't be able to respond to everyone.
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@swamthetiber25 There is no Scripture in support of your pontificating that those who have died on earth pray for us in heaven.
Or that we are ask them to pray for us.
That is merely man-made religion.
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We are prohibited from obtaining information from the dead. If anything, we are giving them information. They pray for us because they are part of the communion of saints. Being in heaven doesn’t make them less so.
Miss Lizard@adelethelaptop
Intercessory prayer is when a living person prays for another living person, as modeled in every case in the Bible. Praying to the departed saints is practicing divination, which we see condemned by death, like when Saul used a medium to summon Samuel and died as a result.
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@Steevo36 @iowancapreborn In all fairness to Mormons, most missionaries are kids right out of high school. Those regions are extremely dangerous. If I were LDS, I'd have a difficult time letting my child go to one of those countries.
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@iowancapreborn How's come they don't send missionaries to Muslim countries?
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@GringoPapist Maybe
But here's what learning Church history has taught me. For the past 2,000 years, Christianity has worked like a tide. Sometimes the tide is high, sometimes it's low, but it's always there, and always will be.
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@UcheMaryOkoli Why does every Pope take a picture like this? His head is down and he's looking up to the camera with his eye. It creates a creepy effect.
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@In_awe_of_God Exactly. The picture is clearly Jesus bearing the sins of Edmund, and the witch taking the role of Satan.
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@Elefjohnson Also I don’t think that Narnia is really against PSA. It is Aslan taking the punishment for Edmunds fault on himself. The witch isn’t the one who has captured either one of them but rather acts as the accuser (and executor) here.
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