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@DizzyLizzi80631 @grouchian @godblesstoto You just described dysphoria.. you can't argue that they dont experience dysphoria.. Whether or not shame about being gay is why they decided to be trans, it doesnt change the fact that using certain terms to describe them in their presence causes them psychological harm.

@ExceptionalTake @grouchian @godblesstoto No such thing as dysphoric, it’s just a term used to describe uncomfortable/distressing feelings. She clearly stated he was a “gay man”. More likely he was ashamed to be gay.

Here's how I see it. JK Rowling has stated that she refers to a male friend of hers as 'she' and 'her'. A bunch of people calling themselves 'GC' have kicked off at anyone criticising her for this. JK Rowling herself has stated in the past that 'it starts with a white lie' and ends with women being made to give away their rights. So I don't think it's unreasonable or 'Ultra' in the slightest to feel disappointed that Rowling herself commits to this 'white lie' in her private life. Should she be ostracised for this? No. But I don't think it's fair or even rational to label those calling her out on this as 'absolutists' etc. This isn't a religion. JK Rowling isn't the Pope of the TERFs. She's not infallible. I can still respect her. I'm just confused by her seemingly contradictory behaviour. She once posted on here that calling a man by female pronouns is 'betraying your fundamental beliefs' to make a man happy. So I don't understand why she would do this herself. A man doesn't 'earn' female pronouns by being nice. It makes no sense to me. This isn't about compelled speech (pretty certain that nobody could compel JK Rowling to do anything she didn't want to😂). It's not about 'purity tests'. The bottom line, to me in any case, is that men can never be women. Women can never be men. There are no increments to this. There's no nuance. We can't afford to think: 'oh well he's very female-coded so he gets a pass for female pronouns'. I don't think this is a 'purist' stance. It's understanding the need to steadfastly recognise reality and retain consistency in an issue that is fundamental, and ultimately affects us all.

@grouchian @godblesstoto Ok so its for *your* integrity. Im not going to say you're wrong for not using their "preferred pronouns".. but im going to say, there's no moral value in harming someone with a begrudged truth if it doesn't lead to better outcomes overall It's just a neutral choice + friction

@ExceptionalTake @godblesstoto It’s self-protection when it’s a potentially violent man and you’re a woman. As a man myself, no, it’s not worth trading my integrity.

@XisbestM @MELINDAMCMILLIN @otokyo__ Cognitive dissonance

@MELINDAMCMILLIN @otokyo__ How is it both men and women understand this but trans people do not?

Why are so many men afraid to date a Trans women ?? 🤔

@grouchian @godblesstoto It's not self protection. It's social lubricant. In what way is using terms you know will hurt someone "respecting" them? Maybe you could argue you are respecting your own beliefs, but you aren't doing this for their sake. You're doing it in spite of them Is it always worth it?

@ExceptionalTake @godblesstoto That’s what I said. To spell it out: Dysphoria = Break with reality = Mental illness. I said, terminal, as in, maybe she sees his case is extreme enough that it’s not going to get cured. And it’s not a courtesy; it’s a self-protection tactic because the person is mentally ill.

@_dishwasher__ @BloomOne @tifagirlx Theres nothing "hamfisted" about it. People persue the sex they're attracted to. This is how sexual orientation works. "Genitals before deepest internal feelings." Has got to be the most disingenuous framing ever. Their internal feeling is that they are attracted to a sex.

@ExceptionalTake @BloomOne @tifagirlx It's not disingenuous. There is no expectation, because the status quo has been broken. Why are you speaking in rhetorical questions in a hamfisted attempt to appear intelligent? If you put anatomy before your deepest internal feelings, you have a larger struggle than trans.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH AN STRAIGHT GUY AS TRANSGIRL 🏳️‍⚧️: He : hey, you look cute ☺️ Me : did you see the flag in my profile? He : what does that mean? Me : It means im transgender 😅 He : ah so you got melons & kitty ?  Me : thats none of your buisness. He : yall trans people always want respect but are not even honest Me : how is telling you about my private parts even important ? 🤔 He : *blocks me* And that my dear people, is a straight guy who does not respect transwomen 🙋🏻‍♀️🏳️‍⚧️

@bice_mx @Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans Irrelevant. Address my actual point. Are 44% of democrats fascists? Are you scared they are going to "kill" you if you appeal to them too hard? Sounds like a very paranoid and detached existence. In reality most people are playing a game of courtesy with trans people.

@ExceptionalTake @Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans Yeah I didn't say that and sex isn't binary

Trans people DO NOT have to tell you they're trans unless the have romantic intentions with you.. That means if you, as a straight man ask me out on a date, I'm not obliged to tell you until AFTER the date when l've decided if have romantic interest in you or not

@bice_mx @Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans Correct. Facts arent determined by feelings. The idea that identifying as a male or female makes you male or female is just a contested idea.. not a fact. It's a very fringe idea, yet is moralized to the point you call everyone who disagrees fascists.

@ExceptionalTake @Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans Also facts aren't determined by feelings. I don't know if you know this, but facts do not care about your feelings. Sex isn't a binary, and that's a fact.

@grouchian @godblesstoto Or.. the guy is dysphoric, and genuinely undergoes psychological harm and distress by using certain terms.. and JK realizes that by extending the courtesy (via her own freewill) for the limited interactions she has with them, reduces unnecessary social friction at little cost.

@godblesstoto Ms. Rowling is lying to the man’s face. This is the stone opposite of showing proper respect. The only acceptable explanation is, she knows he’s mentally ill, and that his condition is terminal, so she’s humoring him the same way you might lie to a relative on his deathbed.

@bice_mx @Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans If fascists = everyone who thinks being male or female is about sex and not "gender identity" Then the majority of the planet is already "facist". This includes nearly half of democrats btw.

@Tobias_smith31 @kiwi_trans Hey dude. The fascists will kill you too. After they're done with trans people. You will not be spared. No amount of appealing to them will save you. You're just as much a freak to them as trans people are. You're just a pathetic loser.

@_dishwasher__ @BloomOne @tifagirlx Little disingenuous. Is the assumption in dating that someone who looks female has female anatomy or vice versa. Is it also true that trans people are generally likely to disrupt this heuristic? Is it also true sex is relevant to most people in dating?

@BloomOne @tifagirlx Being trans isn't about your genitals monkey

@Chompy122 @BloomOne @tifagirlx Little different. Being asked if I have certain anatomy is a weird question, but then again, sex in a relationship is generally relevant. The only reason I would find it weird is because i have given them no reason to doubt my anatomy. While trans people generally have.

@BloomOne @tifagirlx If I were to ask you what size your dick was, I'm pretty sure you would probably be just as offended as when a trans person is asked personal questions about their genitals

@kinga812 @jk_rowling @clharrington024 Do you get this upset when people say Darth Vader is Luke's father?

@jk_rowling @clharrington024 Man, just casually throwing out them spoilers…

My 6th grade daughter is reading Harry Potter, she finished the 6th book very late the other night so I was already asleep. I awoke to a post it on the kitchen counter: “Mom, Dumbledore died! I’m so sad. Love, Charlotte” This small note made my heart explode. Reading great books is magical and moving and heartbreaking. Thanks @jk_rowling for writing this world for kids to love and live in. Parents, too many kids today haven’t read all the Harry Potter books. Start reading this series with them. I promise it will be one of your most cherished memories.

@NotRiteQuite @jimbo_madison @nt771735 @DelusionPosting Nothing statistically significant.

@jimbo_madison @nt771735 @DelusionPosting No it's not actually, that graph is simplified for the sake of frail female ego, but the average is not equal for men and women.

@KuchiGyz @DelusionPosting Don't need to go there. The graph shows same average iq pretty much, but theres less variance in it among women. Most women are in the average iq range more often, but there are more men at either end of the spectrum.

@DelusionPosting I call bs. I'm not saying we are smarter than women, but IQ tests challenge your logic, pattern recognition, etc, stuff that on average we are better at than women.

@JohnnyMilkies @k1tty_bug @MrGrip2000 @cammakingminds The "test" is a trolley problem for humans. It's not a real scenario. And if the car put itself in the situation where these are It's only 2 options, it shouldn't be allowed on the road.

@ExceptionalTake @k1tty_bug @MrGrip2000 @cammakingminds Again, ignorance of the reason these tests exist says more about you.

People who get tripped up by the trolley problem are intellectually disabled. Killing 5 people is worse than killing 1 person actually.

@CleverFool5 @Etanarachel Current laws on consent are sufficient..

@Etanarachel Correct. The only question of how to go forward with this information as a society is to learn whether it’s less destructive to outlaw heterosexuality or to discard rape as a valid category of crime, but a fair legal system can’t make carveouts for a favored subcategory.

If power imbalances really removed the ability to consent than no heterosexual sex would be consensual!

@JohnnyMilkies @k1tty_bug @MrGrip2000 @cammakingminds If a self driving car is going too fast to yield to pedestrians then it shouldn't be allowed on the road.

@k1tty_bug @MrGrip2000 @cammakingminds You do not have the mental prowess to understand that situations can transpire beyond your control to safely stop a vehicle. In these situations, this test is purposefully built for that. Failure to even understand that is dangerous for everyone else on the road with you.

@nyaraVT I don't believe it's better. "The grass is always greener" and such.. But let's say I did want to become female.. Doing these things wouldn't make me female and take too much pretending and effort to fool people. If there was a magic machine that rearranged my biology, sure..

Genuine question for all men.. why aren't you women? If being a woman offers special privileges and trans people are just pretending.. why aren't you one? Why don't you identify as a woman? Why don't you come out as a woman? Why don't you start HRT, change your name & gender?

@_ruthietoothie @JebraFaushay A controlled experiment at minimum would have the men at least, just as sober as the women?

@JebraFaushay Doesn’t change with age. 😀😀

A Russian teacher conducted this little experiment to show the difference between boys and girls at the same age.

@dr_awoo @TTofthanse35452 @mir3k_33 @frankinsensible @Qveen_Potato No. Sex is primarily about reproductive role. If you can get pregnant you're female. We only have to go to chromosomes when the simpler heuristics fail. Even then, at the chromosome level it's about the activation of the SRY gene..

@TTofthanse35452 @mir3k_33 @frankinsensible @Qveen_Potato Ah yes, the scary 3rd gend- Oh wait Apparently there's only 2 Well nevermind guess they must be male dude to their chromosomes!

Oh ya?