@Phibies8 @ItsVestal @themostazezo If you were raped by a black guy does it make it acceptable to be racist?
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Savin Gark
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@ItsVestal @themostazezo Just so were clear... most women saying fuck men say so as a result of abuse. If you cant take a step back and acknowledge that making this about mens feelings isnt out of touch, you need a reality check. I HATED men after years of abuse, and then rape.
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premise 1: all Men are bad
premise 2: your boyfriend is a man
--> therefore your boyfriend is bad
This happens bc premise 1 is false.
jasmine@jasmineeazj
I don't understand straight women. They admit that men are bad but somehow think their "golden retriever boy" is different.
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@I_LOVE_JAHY @Bayo_conjurer you need so many training points for it though
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@BurnThroughLies @michaeloburns I don't get the obsession with IP when it comes to state level officials
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@michaeloburns He's the least bad choice in the race and I probably will too, I just wish he could acknowledge that Israel is committing a genocide. It would be nice if he was a class traitor and had an ounce of courage.
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Fuck me im gonna vote for this god damn billionaire
Winter@LeftyWinter
Tom Steyer and Katie Porter going at it. She's failing at trying to use his class against him.
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@corsaren “Kill a random person or don’t” yeah real head scratcher, the blues are really making themselves look good with this one
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i would like everyone who said they would always vote red in the og poll because it's the game theory dominant, obvious, "non-retarded" answer to please take this variant and report back. i suspect many of you do not, in fact, know ball.
gfodor.id@gfodor
Red and blue button experiment but where the button you push applies not to you but another person randomly assigned to you.
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turning 36 today, offering life advice to anyone younger than me ONLY, expires at midnight
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@EdwardJRburns @BowTiedNiners I mean obviously man, how would it even be possible for it to be easy to make millions a year? What do you even need that much money for?
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@BowTiedNiners Just be top .0001 of intelligence, drive, and autism and you too can make millions
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“Just get into Jane Street or become a top 1% lawyer bro”
Terminally online people have no concept of the real world
Vēnø@Veno_41
Flood reveals what type of jobs you can get that will pay you over $1,000,000 a month "There is so many jobs that pay you millions like If your just a mid level employee at Jane street your making 10s of millions a year" "Some of my lawyers make millions in cash as long as they are equity partners at top law firms" "As you get older in life and start actually paying attention to the world around you, you actually realize how much capital there is out there"
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@praszky @sahbei30 @theashrb @AzureFenn Answering unknown numbers is not the norm these days and is explicitly warned against. Spam callers will call you more if you answer them so you shouldn’t pick up unknown calls
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Not being funny but if you’re actively job hunting, why would you not pick up an unknown number? LOL
aditii@aditiitwt
Had a technical interview scheduled, got two missed calls, and I straight up blocked the number thinking it was spam Now I got this mail... and found out it was the company’s HR calling😭
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@pedrogabwriter @CooperFrye @jon_vs_moloch The idea is the predictor is nearly 100% accurate. In the newcomb problem world almost everyone who one boxes becomes a millionaire and almost everyone who two boxes gets only 1k. It's no the 50/50 setup like your first tweet
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@CooperFrye @jon_vs_moloch The problem is that I don’t know for certain that there’s a million there. It might be nothing. In which case I just lost 1K for nothing
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@brian__rand @Lucky7sMelee I don't know enough about fortnite but each of those shines is a frame perfect input
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@Lucky7sMelee Someone explain this in Fortnite terms
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@rudohor @Devon_Eriksen_ what a worthless answer, different how? What if instead is was a burgundy button and a teal button, a different scenario so obviously morally different right?
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@Devon_Eriksen_ Logically the same scenario. The pill is the blue button, no pill is the red button.
Morally, totally different scenario. Any two scenarios are always morally different. Morals are not consistent and were never meant to be consistent.
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You are offered a pill.
Anyone who takes the pill, dies, unless over 50% of humanity takes the pill.
Obviously, you cannot be affected by the pill if you don't take it.
Is the same moral scenario as the red and blue buttons?
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@quantum_geoff I would choose red and pray to god they would do the same for me? Is the selfless option supposed to be gambling with THEIR life? Obviously everyone should save their assigned person and not risk killing them what
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For those claiming that voting red isn’t a symptom of selfishness, imagine a variant of this where your vote doesn’t determine your own life, but the life of a random person assigned to you...
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@swenlei56 @Antweegonus what do you mean by that? Just flipping the colors to flip the results?
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@Antweegonus would the results look different if picking "red" meant going into the blender?
I would say you would get more blues in that case
if we took it to the extreme and changed picking red to jumping off of a cliff, would you think >50% blue is possible?
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@keirimin @cringe_lizzie But nobody has to choose blue. Why would people choose the only button that could kill them for no reason
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@cringe_lizzie They never think beyond the choice either
Game theory would tell you the results of red would be so catastrophic many post-vote reds will die so blue is the better long-term survival strategy. They don't even understand their own premise- red is the suicide button for humanity
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people invoke game theory for such dumb stuff. if youre optimizing for “i and only i survive and idc abt if anyone else dies and i think that more than 50% of other people share this goal” then red is a reasonable pick. this is, however, a stupid starting point
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@quantum_geoff @SluggyW So what if we say the red button is replaced by just leaving the room? Is the inaction or action?
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@SluggyW No. Because the framing changes the coordination problem. If one of the options is explicitly “do nothing” then it’s much easier to coordinate on that choice
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I get really annoyed by people saying that the “rational” or “game theory” answer is to vote red here. This a coordination problem: there are two optimal outcomes: everyone votes red or >50% vote blue. People dying is (I hope) not an optimal outcome even for the red voters
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@mykola @myonlinetrust The freezer example maintains that but also they are not responsible. Nobody has to choose blue, nobody should choose blue. Blue voters vote blue to solve a problem blue voters caused by voting blue
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@myonlinetrust Both of your frames quite conveniently ignore the fact that in the actual question someone choosing red is directly responsible for the deaths of others that might happen.
It's interesting, isn't it, that that particular detail is so antimemetic for some folks?
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Ah this one again. To my dear rationalist friends who are so confused as to why anyone would press the blue button:
I don't want anyone's blood on my hands.
"But if everyone just presses red then everyone lives" yeah but that's also true for blue, plus no complicity in murder.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@TrueSlazac Nobody has to choose blue, I want to see nobody dead because nobody chose the “maybe die” button for no reason
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Every time this poll goes viral, “blue” starts winning and it angers a lot of people who desperately want to see half of the human population dead to be correct in an argument
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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GAME THEORETIC DYNAMICS ARE DEPENDENT ON YOUR UTILITY FUNCTION. GAME THEORY IS NOT AN EXCUSE NOT TO INTERNALIZE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR DECISIONS TOWARDS OTHERS.
Ari Paul ⛓️@AriDavidPaul
As a game theory question, it’s boring and easy. As a political question, it’s fascinating and reveals a great deal about why democracies struggle. Superficially, blue looks like the collectivist, selfless, moral answer. And as you’d expect, plenty of people not only assumed that to be true, but moralized aggressively at those who understand that’s not factually true. Anyone who picks red is guaranteed to live, including if everyone does it. It’s objectively the better and more moral choice for most and to recommend to others. Blue is a kind of stochastic suicide button.
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@Sinuhe_0584 @TopherStoll @Anton81191831 It’s not selfish because nobody needs to choose blue. If some people were forced into blue then sure but there’s no incentive for anyone to choose blue
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@TopherStoll @Anton81191831 Hear hear. Let community and love for your fellow man overcome crude, cold selfishness.
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Blue team is trying to save blue team from the problem blue team created for blue team by doing the only thing that creates the problem for blue team.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@lenirtpls @ShadowVirg @Anton81191831 Why in gods name would billions choose blue? If you understand the question only a very small fraction would independently choose blue. Imagine there is no red button, only a button that says “die unless 50% press it” who the fuck would press it and why should we protect them?
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@ShadowVirg @Anton81191831 "Red = I can't die"
It's literally that simple to them. They think everyone should just press red but they don't realise that that could never happen. Either blue wins or billions will die. But they don't care and they assume blue voters are just stupid.
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@Dustdrums @WhickTv @TheOmniLiberal Why doesn’t the hospital just charge less? How are they not equally to blame? Why do the pharmaceutical companies not just charge less for medication like they do in other countries? That’s legal murder too right?
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@WhickTv @TheOmniLiberal Insurance companies effectively block surgeries by denying coverage. Same thing with medication. They are one example of an industry which ransoms our health.
Please explain to me how making it harder to get an affordable surgery or medication doesn't hurt anyone.
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Insurance companies are required to pay out claims, they can't keep more than 20% of all premiums, if they don't pay out enough claims then the rest is reimbursed to people who are insured.
No one on the far left has literally any idea how insurance markets or healthcare or anything in the US works, it's just endless virtue signalling to rile people up to get some momentary popularity for their unelectable candidates while Republicans are busy destroying the country.
Secular Talk ([email protected])@KyleKulinski
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