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@GoatedGen30 @SpursCulture But Castle doesn't make big money until 2028-29. Harper doesn't make big money until 2029-30. They still have the luxury of fielding the very skilled Swipa on the roster for a couple more years.

@SpursCulture Spurs will need to offload Fox and have Harper as a starter if we are to see his full potential. Having all that money tied up in Fox makes no sense

Are we sure Dylan Harper won't be the best player in his draft class?

@VinceGoodwill And it doesn't have to end in a championship. Derrick Rose, Steph, Draymond, Webber, Mourning, Hayward, Conley Jr. and Oden, Chet Holmgren... (and many more I'm not writing here) had highly memorable March runs without a title.

We talk about “face of the league” and what’s missing with the connections from players to fans… A big part of that, if a player’s story begins with multiple runs in March or at least a memorable one, it certainly helps. Gotta build the mythology

Chet Holmgren has passed Tim Duncan for highest +/- in a player's first 3 seasons, in NBA history. 1) Chet Holmgren +1,280 2) Tim Duncan +1,276 3) Manu Ginobili +1,227 4) Jayson Tatum +1,209 5) Rajon Rondo +1,160 6) Tony Parker +1,022 7) Dwyane Wade +969

@michaelmiraflor @shrimpfriedpee @rosiekennedyxx @russhmeyer Velociraptor looked cool in a movie(s) and then he/she got a whole basketball team named after him/her (this was the time period when another movie character, the Mighty Ducks, also became the name of a pro team). But T-rex still bested him in the movie.

@shrimpfriedpee @rosiekennedyxx @russhmeyer yeah and then you have Velociraptor (prob KD) coming out of nowhere making claims of being Top 5.

Nobody fell off harder than the hammerhead shark. Was a top shark for me as a kid and now completely obsolete in media and conversation.

@McCadeP8 Thanks! I omitted Duncan and Ginobili because Ginobili joined the team one year after Parker did, but I bet that number is also still impressive. Also curious about Magic and Kareem, although they played “only” ten seasons together.

@JordanPushedOff 1214*, 948*, and Larry only played 897 himself 789 with Parish *I misread while looking up and accidentally included playoff games…..so even less by about 100-200 each.

If you changed Stockton and Malone to *Stockton and Malone* They'd be 8th all-time with 1,412 games. Insane stat.

@tomhaberstroh All jokes aside, Durant is durable as hell at his age, after his injuries.

By my count, there are 32 players currently eligible for MVP, All-NBA, DPOY, All-Defense and MIP awards. Here's what my All-NBA team would look like:

@jazzbeargryllz @McCadeP8 Middleton got injured and didn't recover to his old self. Maybe they should've traded him sooner while he had value, but trading him in the title defense year (2022) would've been tough.

@McCadeP8 Admit it, post championship they’ve been absolutely awful with their roster moves

They won a title. That is the only part of the conversation. They built around Giannis in an awesome way and then did everything they could to tape it together after the main window closed. I'd 100% take how the Bucks have handled the last 10 years. They Won A Title.

@Drpandu31 @ShamsCharania WWE/WWF purchased WCW (and all its intellectual property, history, video libraries, etc.) from Time Warner in 2001, if that helps to address what you're asking.

Hey Grok, be honest - are we celebrating greatness or just pure chaos at this point? Dennis Rodman literally skipped NBA Finals practice to go wrestle with Hulk Hogan in WCW… and that somehow earns a WWE Hall of Fame spot too? Where do we draw the line between iconic and unserious?

Crossover: Basketball Hall of Famer Dennis Rodman will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in April, per ESPN sources. Rodman made his WCW debut in 1997 and famously skipped a practice during the 1998 NBA Finals for a wrestling match alongside Hulk Hogan. Two HOFs for Rodman.

@SamQuinnCBS Philly Iguodala and Denver Iguodala also gets forgotten. And don't sleep on Cleveland/Clippers Ron Harper, before he got 5 rings.

Kevin Love is one of the co-captains of my “remembered for who they were when they won their ring and not who they were at their peak” All-Star Team along with Ray Allen.

@CREID2852 @podoffame @bball_ref Thank you, good call. Kareem still finished 4th despite his team finishing 45-37, so I guess some voters were still impressed.

@JordanPushedOff @podoffame @bball_ref Kareem punched Kent Benson and missed 17 games that season and it was not a good season for Lakers

I am sorry, but if you can’t play in at least 80% of the games, you probably don’t deserve to win regular season awards. Only five NBA MVPs have gone to a player who played under 65 games. Malone won in a 50-game strike season. LeBron during a 66-game strike season. Giannis during 72-game COVID season. Cousy during a 72-game season. In NBA history, only Bill Walton would have been impacted by the 65-game rule.

@CREID2852 @podoffame @bball_ref Voters in ‘78 may have had Kareem fatigue. The voting was close between Walton and Iceman.

@podoffame @bball_ref 1) I did not know there was 65 game rule on MVP 2) I am not sure what the rule accomplishes 3) Literally one player in history breaks the rule in 82 games season. 4) 1978 season did not have an OBVIOUS candidate to win and Walton was best player on best record team.

@vs_everybody @Charlottean28 His injury was January 1, 2025, so... yes, Keith is correct (almost). He hasn't fully recovered, as evidenced by his "the old J.I. is dead" comment.

@Charlottean28 Lol no he hasn’t

Not gonna lie,.. Jaden Ivey would be real nice to have right about now

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Grant Hill 1991 Kansas If you know, you know

@BBB8421 @Carsobi LeBron finished 2nd for MVP voting in '06. Duncan in '98 was 5th in MVP voting + 5th for DPOY. But he was vying against all-timers like Jordan, Admiral, Payton, Mailman, Shaq. This year, Cade, Kawhi, Giannis, Tatum are ineligible for awards due to missing too many games.

@JordanPushedOff @Carsobi I mean he would should have the MVP/DPOY and be the youngest MVP of all time. All NBA is nothing for Wemby

It is truly absurd that the Spurs are a +14.5 NET team in Wemby’s minutes. That is an all-time dominant number. Their defense performs like one of the very best *ever* when he’s on the court. His impact is extraordinary. One of the very best 3rd-year players ever.

@BBB8421 @Carsobi Also, Victor turned 20 halfway through his rookie year (2023-24). Cooper Flagg turned *19* halfway through his rookie year (2025-26). So for your comparison, you need to compare Cooper's second season, 2026-27 (yet to be seen) to Victor's rookie year.

@BBB8421 @Carsobi Duncan and LeBron both made First Team All-NBA at age 22, in 1998 and 2006, respectively. (I know Wemby also will, probably)

@joesanders33 @JustinmTurpin The league had 23 teams then. Miami and Charlotte got started in 1988-89.

@JordanPushedOff @JustinmTurpin Wasn’t it more like 27 vs 28?

Robert Parish was asked who would win between the 2024 Celtics and the 1986 Celtics. His answer was the ‘86 Celtics because nobody had an answer for Bill Walton. “The NBA didn’t have an answer for Bill Walton. That’s why we were successful and that’s why we are considered one of the all-time best teams.”

@joesanders33 @JustinmTurpin Now add Reggie Lewis for 1987-88. (In this hypothetical where BOS went 82-0 in 1986-87, BOS would have had the #23 draft pick instead of #22. Maybe the Spurs* at #22 would've taken Reggie.) * Spurs had the Lakers' pick from the Mychal Thompson trade.

@JustinmTurpin If Walton and McHale didn’t get hurt and bias didn’t die, the 87 Celtics might have gone undefeated.

@Zombie2572 @ThirstRoundPick @IANdrewDiceClay Piper and Hulk were 43 and 44 when they fought at Halloween Havoc '97. WWF called it "Age in the Cage." CM Punk and Roman are 40 and 47. Cody and Orton are 40 and (almost) 46.

@ThirstRoundPick @IANdrewDiceClay That was considered ancient in pro wrestling at the time. Bob Backlund was 43 around this time, and his gimmick was “over-the-hill old man”.

Poor Hulk looked really fucking old when he returned in 1993. Never has a man needed muscle mass more than the Hulkster. He looked so much better when he got on the gear hard a few years later.