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Meridian

@MeridianMindset

Interest: Geopolitics, history, economics, ML, salsa dancing

เข้าร่วม Mayıs 2023
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@TheTonus Having a child in America doesn’t anchor you here.
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Tony Kinnett@TheTonus·
This exchange could genuinely flip a vote in Trump's favor. The ACLU arguing foreigners operating in the United States at the request of a foreign military/state (China, Iran, etc.) should get to anchor here as a function of the 14th amendment is quite literally insane.
Benjamin Weingarten@bhweingarten

Justice Alito: Would you agree citizenship test in 14th Amendment is same as test in 1866 Civil Rights Act? Respondents: Words are obviously different. What Wong Kim Ark and debates tell us is that Congress was trying to do same thing with both. They wanted to encompass Common Law exception and Indian exception. Alito: Do they mean the same thing? Respondents: Framers were trying to do the same thing with the language in both. Alito: 1866 is more straightforward. "Not subject to any foreign power" is pretty straightforward. So if a boy is born here to an Iranian father who has entered illegally. That boy is automatically an Iranian national at birth. He has a duty to provide military service to Iranian government. Is he not subject to any foreign power? Respondents: No, what framers meant was referring to ambassador exception. If it meant not subject "of" foreign power, than lawful permanent residents -- Alito: Ordinary meaning would certainly encompass that boy, wouldn't it? Respondents: Shift to language of 14th Amendment clears up ambiguity. Alito: What I said of boy born to Iranian father is true to children born to nationals of other countries -- Russian parents, etc. Sure seems like that makes them subject to a foreign power. Respondents: That would've meant children of Irish, Italian, other immigrants -- which Wong Kim Ark and Framers allude to -- wouldn't count either. No foreign nationals' children would get citizenship. Alito: Difference is children could be naturalized when parents were naturalized in those cases.

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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@willchamberlain Congress can prohibit birth tourism by banning pregnant women from traveling to the United States.
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Will Chamberlain
Will Chamberlain@willchamberlain·
You misunderstand the stakes. If the Supreme Court rules against the administration, Congress CANNOT prohibit birth tourism, because the children produced by birth tourism would be constitutionally entitled to citizenship. That's how insane the left's interpretation is.
Robert W Malone, MD@RWMaloneMD

9% of of all the babies born in the USA getting citizenship, based on either birth tourism - mostly from the CCP - or whose mother smuggled herself into this country illegally, is not ok and no way to secure a healthy future for Americans. If the Supreme Court doesn't restrict birthright citizenship, then Congress must -BEFORE the midterms. This is what the citizens of the United States want and require.

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Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@nc_tigah @EWess92 There isn’t a requirement for it be viewpoint neutral. Why would there be?
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NC Tigah@nc_tigah·
@MeridianMindset @EWess92 Perhaps you did not understand it. Kagan's point is CO restrictions were not viewpoint neutral. Jackson, incredibly, argued there is no requirement for CO to be viewpoint neutral or even correct in its restrictions. In that regard, science and outcome was/is not on CO's side.
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Eric W.@EWess92·
Supreme Court Opinions: Chiles v. Salazar. Can Colorado ban talk therapy for people trying to feel comfortable with their sex, sexuality or gender? No, writes Justice Gorsuch in what is largely an 8-1 decision. A complete ban on so-called "conversion" therapy fails here.
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Greg Price
Greg Price@greg_price11·
🚨 BREAKING: The Supreme Court just ruled 8-1 in Chiles v. Salazar that Colorado's law banning "conversation therapy" for sexual orientation or gender identity is unconstitutional. Jackson was the lone dissent.
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KGH@heardattheCME·
@MeridianMindset @greg_price11 that's a very articulated point. But I would like to point out that no justice on the Supreme Court has ever had a worse winning record than Jackson.
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
Kagan's point here is really dumb, and I'm wondering if anyone actually read the opinion instead of quote-tweeting selective screenshots calling it a dunk. The actual context: Jackson says in footnote 8 that viewpoint-neutral medical speech regulation is basically a fiction, an empty or near-empty category. Every standard of care inherently picks a side, so the distinction Kagan wants to preserve doesn't actually work in the medical context. Kagan fires back saying: "Jackson, you're contradicting yourself. You just listed a whole bunch of state laws in your own dissent that you claim are now at risk. Those laws, requiring competence, promoting client welfare, prohibiting cruelty, are exactly the kind of content-based but viewpoint-neutral regulations you say don't exist." So either that category is real, in which case your argument that the distinction is meaningless falls apart. Or those laws are actually viewpoint-based too, in which case your "parade of horribles" about what the majority's decision will destroy is much less alarming because those laws were already constitutionally suspect under existing doctrine. Jackson's correct response is essentially: No, those laws look viewpoint-neutral on their face but become viewpoint-based the moment you enforce them, because someone has to decide what "welfare" or "competence" or "cruelty" actually mean in a specific case. So they prove her point, not Kagan's. How Kagan thought that was a clever point is beyond me. After all, a liberal licensing board can easily treat conversion therapy as "inherently cruel" to create a de facto ban. But to know that you would actually have to read, and no one actually does that anymore so...
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Greg Price
Greg Price@greg_price11·
Wow. Justice Kagan's concurring opinion attacks the dissent of her fellow liberal Justice Jackson.
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
Kagan's point here is really dumb, and I'm wonder if anyone actually read the opinion instead of quoting tweeting selective screenshot calling it a dunk. The actual context: Jackson says in footnote 8 that viewpoint-neutral medical speech regulation is basically a fiction: an empty or near-empty category. Every standard of care inherently picks a side, so the distinction Kagan wants to preserve doesn't actually work in the medical context. Kagan screenshotted footnote fires back saying: "Jackson, you're contradicting yourself. You just listed a whole bunch of state laws in your own dissent that you claim are now at risk. Those laws requiring competence, promoting client welfare, prohibiting cruelty, are exactly the kind of content-based but viewpoint-neutral regulations you say don't exist." So either that category is real, in which case your argument that the distinction is meaningless falls apart, or those laws are actually viewpoint-based too, in which case your "parade of horribles" about what the majority's decision will destroy is much less alarming because those laws were already constitutionally suspect under existing doctrine. Jackson's correct response is essentially: no, those laws look viewpoint-neutral on their face but become viewpoint-based the moment you enforce them, because someone has to decide what "welfare" or "competence" or "cruelty" actually means in a specific case. So they prove her point, not Kagan's. How Kagan thought that was a clever point is beyond me. A liberal licensing board can easily treat conversion therapy as "inherently cruel" to create a de fact ban. But to know that you would actually have to read, and no one actually does that anymore so...
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NC Tigah@nc_tigah·
@MeridianMindset @EWess92 Re: "Kagan's reply was really dumb" Wow! Just wow! FYI, Elena Kagan is many things. "Dumb" is not one of them. Jackson may possibly not be dumb either. But her legal and Constitutional arguments are, all too often, breathtakingly stupid.
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Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@EWess92 Kagan's reply was really dumb. None of those cited laws are viewpoint neutral.
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Eric W.@EWess92·
Notably, Justice Jackson trains her fire on Justices Kagan and Sotomayor. In a footnote she basically accuses them of being dupes for the conservative majority. Kagan responds, basically accusing Jackson of not understanding longstanding law. 👀
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
Kagan's dissent was actually pretty stupid here. She's telling Jackson, "you mentioned state laws requiring therapists to promote the "welfare, autonomy and best interests" of clients (Georgia, Indiana). Laws requiring "humane and dignified treatment" (Connecticut). Rules requiring professionals to "assure client welfare and protection" (Alabama). Prohibitions on treating a patient "in a cruel manner" (Kansas). Rules allowing discipline of providers who are "incompetent" (Alaska). And in footnote 13, requirements that treatment plans be "viable and effective" (Arizona) and prohibitions on "exercising undue influence on the client" (Colorado itself) being at risk, but they aren't, because those are viewpoint neutral, content based" But they're obviously not viewpoint, you need have some viewpoint on what humane and dignified treatment is and what viable and effective treatment plan is in order to enforce those law. People who are reading this "dunk" don't even seem to even know what the two justices are arguing about.
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@nominalthoughts Kagan's point is dumb. All standards of care regulation picks a side, that's why it exist.
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@MillieOfferman @ferald_gord That's a dumb point. The state can decided to forbid therapy designed to "explore suicidal options"...any regulation of talk therapy is inherently viewpoint based.
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PoliticallyAnnoyed
PoliticallyAnnoyed@MillieOfferman·
Kagan on why this specific law is textbook viewpoint discrimination: “The law forbids a counselor to provide therapy designed to ‘change [a minor’s] sexual orientation or gender identity.’ … At the same time, the law specifically allows a counselor to offer therapy expressing ‘[a]cceptance, support,’ and other affirmation of the minor’s ‘identity exploration.’ … [T]he law prevents a therapist from saying she can help a minor change his same-sex orientation, but permits her to say that such a goal is impossible and so she will help him accept his gay identity. … Because the State has suppressed one side of a debate, while aiding the other, the constitutional issue is straightforward.”
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kicole nidman@ferald_gord·
the supreme court's conversion therapy case pretty much rests on the idea that talk therapy is speech, and thus different from other medical treatments (which are not speech). and not gonna lie that distinction feels weak to me
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Tracy Alloway
Tracy Alloway@tracyalloway·
BONUS ODD LOTS AHEAD OF ARTEMIS II LAUNCH 🚀🌕 @TheStalwart & I speak with Alex MacDonald, who was the first chief economist at NASA. We talk about how the agency evaluates its projects, & public vs private funding of space exploration (i.e. SpaceX) podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why…
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Meridian
Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@CpaFogle8004 @I_luv_ix I think that’s part of it, but I think a larger factor is that working-class women are unattracted to professional-class men’s behavior.
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Jack@CpaFogle8004·
@MeridianMindset @I_luv_ix because the unspoken line in her post is: it's hard to find a man who meets these criteria "...and wants to marry you." Assortative mating: men are willing to date/marry down but not as far down as many think He has his own criteria too. Does the working class girl meet them?
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zixi
zixi@I_luv_ix·
If you are a working class woman finding a man who is not currently abusing narcotics, alcohol, or gambling, is stably employed, is staying on the right side of the law, is not abusive and is actually willing to marry before having children is genuinely difficult.
Lyman Stone 石來民 🦬🦬🦬@lymanstoneky

The point here is simple: Human capacities really are finite. A lot of the traits that show up as things modern women expect for marriage are a) traits they themselves do not possess and b) traits that large shares of both sexes do not possess "Men should up their game" doesn't work for that

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Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@ClodiaMET @I_luv_ix A lot of white collar men are gay? Where the hell did you get that from?
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Clodia@ClodiaMET·
@MeridianMindset @I_luv_ix White collar men aren't doing poorly in the dating market though? They are outnumbered by white collar women in most major metros and a lot of white collar men are gay so the ratio is even more off. On top of that these groups of people live in different places.
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Meridian@MeridianMindset·
@I_luv_ix True, I think there’s a reason for that, the behavioral problems of the working class aren’t limited to men.
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zixi@I_luv_ix·
@MeridianMindset Men are more willing to date down economically than they are willing to date down socially/educationally. It's why teachers regularly marry white collar professionals but waitresses don't
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