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@YamaGraves @SapphireHeartSK Nearly full kit. Their wording was all buttons but not all skills

@SapphireHeartSK I mean they already confirmed that you have full kit at 50, so it already makes it better.

Yo maybe harder to do Ultimates (Legacy) ?

@Yoake_Tasogare @roegamaniac The issue is pressing 1 heal button to gcd heal isnt any different than the problem they have with pressing 1 button to dps. Both healing and dps was stupid simple and with whm they somehow made it even simpler

@roegamaniac Literally saw someone go "healer looks stupid" Healers ask for a change for years, so mr prime makes them focused on healing while still contributing damage, and people go "But i don't want to GCD heal." Like 1. okay just play reborn healer, 2. WHAT DO YOU WANT THEN???

People: "WE WANT DIVERSITY IN OUR JOBS" *Mr Prime makes jobs more diverse and removes button bloat and makes them feel fun like pvp and will give folks the player expression they yearn for* People: NO NOT LIKE THAT

@FateFalse Except they never stated the other healers were getting that. They just acted like whm didnt have it and then acted like it was a new feature to hide the fact that they gutted everything else about the job

actually really excited about the healer changes coming, they finally realized healers(not just whm) needed to be compensated for using GCD heals and shields properly not punished. im so curious to what theyre gonna do with AST and SCH now that 2 min meta is gone

@Bit_Azure I mean, looking at drg your not going to be able to use the big jump off cd every time but we will have too see if thats something the other jobs will have something similar too

@RengeKurusu Again not saying its perfect but there was a method to the madness haha. Those restrictions meant they could force decision making in specific scenarios and stuff. I don't know how you do that as much when everyone's just mashing the dps buttons. We'll see!

Sidenote if you think Reborn mode sticks around after 8.0 I have a bridge to sell you. This is onboarding. A lot of people going "you'll have both" but you won't because Reborn is literally getting utility and synergies removed also per the dev letter. So it's all but decided.

@Gamegodtre76161 @Bit_Azure Also benison and aquaveil being merged removes flexibility in how they are used and forces them moreso to be extra tank mits rather than bonus mit for your squishies where it mattered (fixer from m12s)

@Gamegodtre76161 @Bit_Azure For aoe healing i meant, and yeah sure they still have the bell but we also dont know if thats stuck on the 3 minute cd or not anymore

This was the funniest thing they said. "Healers only used one button for dps" that's because they only have...one button for dps outside of things like assize and stuff lol. But now it changes every other time you press it so it's fixed I guess lol

@Gamegodtre76161 @ponderkeep Because cover had to be moved to a less used button i guess

@RengeKurusu @ponderkeep Then why on God green earth does it have the gap closing cover. No mt in his right mind will ever use that. That's a party wipe if used 9/10 times. Hell turn the boss and cleave the raid. Cover gonna be so situational that being unused will be an understatement compared to now

Dont care still doing pld ot dont tell me how to play my game yoshida

@Bit_Azure If your job has personal buffs you will still want to align your hardest hitting moves under them

@RengeKurusu @Sheepswoolly Resources so far have been addersgall and Kuwait from NIN. Doesn't mean there isnt more variety but the wips don't show much variety. And again, if not worrying about buff windows, why NOT just use them off cool down? Its free real estate haha

@Urcle3 @inkblotPrincess Now positioning is dead, you get double the resources on your heals so your resource management is dead (also looks like the little bit of mp management is gone too)

@Urcle3 @inkblotPrincess Whms 7.0 skill expression is managing your 3 free heals per minute (that were instant cast) around your movement and healing needs to remain a damage neutral. it made positioning during fights very important to maximizing your damage and was satisfying to pull off

oh Square Enix just completely and permanently burned the healers in FF14. well, we had a good run.

@AtelierBagur @inkblotPrincess @FlowersSunRain_ Your heal buttons that they also simplified

@inkblotPrincess @FlowersSunRain_ It doesnt matter because you're going to be spending more time pressing your healing buttons than the actual glare spam.

@Bit_Azure @Sheepswoolly Jobs with resource management just tried to line them up with their own 1 and 2 minute burst windows, which were also indicated with 1/2 minute cds. And the resource management might not be going anywhere on those jobs (but that’s optimistic thinking)

@RengeKurusu @Sheepswoolly You didn't press buttons on cooldown. You had to actually plan when to use them and not overcap on resources. Not saying it was perfect but as a NIN making sure not to overcap on kunai and mudras while also lining everything up every 60 to 120s was part of the expression for me.

@FateLostTemplar @noodle_xiv 90% and its like 2% of purple or higher parsers at most

@noodle_xiv both are pretty retarded and 90% of the people only use to measure dicks and talk shit i hope all parsers die.

what an embarrassing take fflogs isn’t going anywhere, it’s simply going to be managed by kihra’s team for players saying fflogs is nothing but a toxic addition (vs tomestone??) to the community i hope you’ve never used this platform to improve your own gameplay 💙

@Bit_Azure @Sheepswoolly Although at this point most of the synergy was done for us by just pressing buttons on cd with only a few specific fights changing that (and being comp dependent sometimes too)

@RengeKurusu @Sheepswoolly Don't get me wrong, dps utility being king was a legit issue, but we need to see later what they add in its place because now the conversation won't be "how can I line up buffs with my party so we can slap this boss in the face" it'll be "I'll do my own thing" which is odd to me.

@SpicyBaconPig @miuna_ff14 Because the devs have been on a streak of constantly failing to meet expectations they set. Really the only thing that has lived up to expectations this expansion was savage and fru. (Chaotic was close tho)

@miuna_ff14 FFXIV community isn't capable of being optimistic or positive about anything.

My entire timeline is one button vs 123 vs controller vs too easy vs it will be harder Let them coooook Be excited, be concerned, but let’s judge when we get our hands on this thing I am both excited AND concerned lol

@Gamegodtre76161 @ponderkeep It is now, but evolved is a dedicated mt. Probably cause they kept failing at making the main tank job an actual better mt rather than an ot

@ponderkeep I'm pretty sure pld is a ot now so.....

@CandyStripeNia @SomeWeab @ponderkeep They showed 4 examples that were nothing alike to begin with

@SomeWeab @ponderkeep they literally showed 4 examples

@Bit_Azure @Sheepswoolly Hopefully dancer and astro have escaped said changes but i have my doubts

@RengeKurusu @Sheepswoolly For sure but without raid buffs and synergy skills (they are removed for both versions of classes) speed kills are going to be more about press button fast than group play imo. So that's why I'm raising an eyebrow atm

@Fiye @Miunih Dive make it look fun, but its also the only class where you dont have an already decent idea of how it will interact with the content

@Fiye @Miunih If you only found enjoyment in what was scrapped from a job, your not going to enjoy it (whm for example) Pld is similar enough to be compared to current pld, and drg is the only one where its unique enough that a proper estimate can’t entirely be made. The new positionals and-

Between ilvl changes, evolved mode, tombstone changes with that season shit. It's the classic make game easier with qol as an excuse.