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@brigidbergin @BOENYC This is also what @RCVresources, the maker of @BOENYC's RCV software, offered to help them with, but BOE didn't accept (ignored them, actually): gothamist.com/news/ranked-ch…

But she warns it will be very onerous to to get the @BOENYC to provide the data in a format that will be usable.

@ndhapple @ndhapple I believe this is the link you want: sfelections.sfgov.org/november-5-201…

Which is something the election officials in San Francisco are able to provide with very little drama. sfelections.org/tools/election…

@edfischman @politicshour Yes, they did, but they didn't need to keep everyone in the dark and waiting for a week, which led to complaints and criticism. And yes, the order and results can change as more ballots are included, but that's okay. They're preliminary results that provide more transparency.

@cjerdonek @politicshour They did run preliminary tallies (and infamously screwed one up). Thing is, with RCV, it's not just a matter of adding in the later votes. Those votes may actually change the order of finish. It's hard to imagine that leading to a different winner, but in theory maybe it could?

On @politicshour, Mayor Bowser says she doesn't understand why ranked choice voting took weeks to count in NYC. Before candidates could be eliminated in order and votes reassigned, BOE had to wait for all votes to arrive. Reason (turnout) to oppose runoffs doesn't apply to #RCV

@emmagf It's not necessary to rank more if one of your choices made the final round..

@Loumanji @jacksantucci @DCInbox True!

937,699 people voted for Mayor in NYC. After 8 rounds Eric Adams win with 50.5% of **ballots remaining** but of all votes cast, his total vote share is 43%. Thing to remember when thinking/reading about how RCV gets you to "majority" like this from WaPO. h/t @jacksantucci

@NickFrish I wish more Republicans knew the Republican Party of Virginia @VA_GOP chose to use RCV to select their nominees for governor, etc. this year (and for the second year in a row): roanoke.com/opinion/editor… It’s definitely not partisan.

@AdamChainz Thanks, Adam, and thanks for all you do for the @djangoproject!

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@NGrossman81 @Motoconomist And if he lost, people would point to _that_ as a reason to stop doing it -- probably more people, in fact, and with more vehemence.

@Motoconomist A lot of the blame falls on New York, no question. I also guarantee that people who oppose RCV will point to this example as a reason not to do it regardless.

Ranked choice voting that takes weeks to arrive at the same results as first past the post voting is not a good advertisement for ranked choice voting. (I know a lot of the problem was New York’s fault. Still, not a good advertisement.)

@TamarSmith3 @njlockwood @Nate_Cohn Precisely 👍

@cjerdonek @njlockwood @Nate_Cohn I see. I guess though that because we have RCV and voters took other things and strategies into consideration that we don’t really know if that would have panned out the same w/o RCV.

In the end, 139459 exhausted ballots, or 15% of ballots cast. No way to know whether they would have broken for Garcia by a 62-38 margin--like the other non-Garcia/Adams ballots--or if those voters simply disliked both. But certainly enough voters there to cover the margin

@TamarSmith3 @njlockwood @Nate_Cohn Because in the tally of first choices ("Round 1" of the RCV tally) Wiley was ahead of Garcia. (This assumes that if voters could choose only one, they'd pick the same as their first choice under RCV.)

@njlockwood @Nate_Cohn Can you explain this a little more- why would it have been Adams and Wiley and not Garcia?

@Nobody1300 @Nate_Cohn Yes, people will be able to tell this when the raw ballot data is published, but the BOE isn't doing that until after the election is certified. (Some RCV jurisdictions publish this info at the same time as preliminary tallies.)

@JLasaine @Taniel If this was a top-two election and you're only allowed to choose one, you still have to worry about wasting your vote on someone who might not make the runoff.

@cjerdonek @Taniel It’s not needed at all for a straightforward, top two runoff.

One big reason I'd consider RCV a success here: 94% of voters ranked at least one of the final 'top 3' (Wiley, Garcia, Adams). 85% ranked at least one of the final 'top 2' (Garcia & Adams). With a field of 13 candidates, that wasn't obvious at all. Strategic & informed voting.

@LudovicSpeaks @artordillos @courtneycgross @errollouis @BOENYC @SFElections The policy isn't about RCV so much as communicating about election results in general. You can let the public know a schedule with expected times, etc, with or without RCV.

@cjerdonek @artordillos @courtneycgross @errollouis @BOENYC @SFElections It’s hilarious I’m in any way defending the NYC BOE. But umm, most cities have had problems the first RCV election, especially when it was a big close election with more than 2 candidates and multiple rounds. Comparing SF policies 18 years in isn’t compelling

At @BOENYC meeting now, one commissioner rationalizing the mistake they made last week by saying it was a “catch-22.” If they didn’t release results quickly they would be slammed by the media. So in that haste, they made mistakes. Perhaps not the best argument

@JLasaine @Taniel I think he just means a lot of voters knew enough to include one of the front-runners in their top five, even if they weren't one of their true top five. This is needed bc NYC doesn't let voters rank more than five, unlike some other jurisdictions.

@Taniel Pardon me. I was crossing “eliminates the need for strategic voting” off the list of specious rationalizations for this poli sci/game theory pet rock. What were you saying?

@nahmias Here's a good thread on this: twitter.com/Rob_Richie/sta…

So this turned out to be accurate? "New Research Shows Ranked Choice Voting Helps Women Win - Women’s Media Center" from August, 2020 womensmediacenter.com/news-features/…