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@RhubbaComedy @penguin74us @ABmrJutt In the U.S., the maternal mortality rate is approximately 32.9 deaths per 100,000 live births. Up to 50% of women experience some form of long-term pelvic floor dysfunction, and many others face permanent changes like gestational diabetes or chronic hypertension.

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt And how prevalent are the dangers? You are focusing on that instead of the vast majority of successful and healthy births. That's anti-natalism.

Hot fucking take: Forcing birth just to dump a baby into adoption is way more unethical than having an abortion.

@RhubbaComedy @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Pregnancy can be a blessing to some people and it’s a precious thing but it’s not negative when I acknowledge the dangers of it

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt You have an extremely negative view of pregnancy.

@L1G0R3 @guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Resorting to insults just proves you’ve run out of actual arguments and are desperate to deflect from the fact that biology doesn't automatically equal personhood 😭

@jjaywalkingg @guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Where did I say that you dumb bitch

@clrichmond77 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Calling it a moral win ignores the reality that not every child is lucky enough to find a home like yours, and forcing births into an overburdened system of trauma and neglect isn't 'pro-life' it's just being pro-birth. I’m glad those kids have you though.

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt I'm a foster parent to three kids someone like you would have elected to abort. Thank God the only good thing their bio Mom did was not murder her kids in the womb. Abortion in all forms is murder

@hsm0k3 @penguin74us @ABmrJutt It’s funny to talk about 'me me me' while you demand a woman sacrifice her entire body and future to be a state-mandated incubator. If you’re so worried about people being treated like objects, stop trying to turn living human beings into biological property

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt So what about the will that the child will have and deserves? It's always about the mom and never about the child. Like you view a baby as an object. Yet you don't want to be seen as an object. It's always the same. Me me me.

@L1G0R3 @guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Even though embryos and beginning fetuses are “offspring” in a biological sense, that doesn't mean they have the moral status of offspring who are persons or person-like.

@jjaywalkingg @guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt So much cope and backwards rationalizing “It’s not killing it’s just terminating a pregnancy” lmao lady, it’s okay just call a spade a spade

@twitch_advt @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Real responsibility isn’t just about biology, it’s about having the maturity to recognize when you aren’t capable of providing a child with the life, stability, and care they deserve.

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt me memememememememememememe That is the whores motto. Its sooo nice when you get to not take responsibility for anything isnt it? Its the babies fault right?.

@Factoiddd @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Consenting to sex isn’t consenting to months of physical risk and childbirth those are separate. The debate isn’t settled by framing it as ‘you chose it,’ especially when the law doesn’t force people to use their bodies for others in any comparable situation

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Sure. So kill a human instead of physical and emotional pain that YOU chose. Checks out.

@julesfunpart2 @guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Adult adoptees have a wide range of experiences some positive, some complicated so they don’t speak with one voice on this. Their perspectives matter, but they don’t settle whether someone can be compelled to go through pregnancy and childbirth.

@guirilondoner @jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Talk to adult adoptees and ask how they feel?

@SpiritusRexx @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt The secular argument is that nobody has a right to use peoples body to stay alive, so autonomy belongs to the person already here, not the fetus. Since there’s no proof your god even exists, using your religion to control others medical choices is just an empty power trip.

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Yes, I am aware that atheists kill babies. The baby has a body - what about its autonomy and right to life? Fuck the baby, right? Let mom wh0re out with no consequences. Here's a suggestion - if you're on the side of killing babies, you're on the wrong side of the argument.

@Ben_Sapo123 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Do you really wanna listen to those specific US laws when a felon and was tried for sexual abuse is president?

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt It does remove the right to kill the baby and the exception is removed. That’s the law

@Ben_Sapo123 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Even if a pregnancy comes from a voluntary act, that doesn’t remove someone’s right to bodily autonomy afterward. The point is whether the state can force someone to continue using their body for someone else, not how the pregnancy started

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Bc some are due to voluntary acts and other aren’t. You’re not from the US so I think you don’t understand the laws. You’re creating false equivalences

@SpiritusRexx @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Biblical law distinguishes between a fetus and a person by not applying "life for life" to miscarriages, and without proof of a god, using ancient scripture to override modern bodily autonomy is a groundless overreach

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Read Genesis 9:6 and get back to me, homie. I am being much easier on people who murder innocent lives than the Bible. Christ isn't a hippie - don't confuse my faith for weakness.

@Ben_Sapo123 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Exceptions don’t weaken the argument they show the law already recognizes that forcing pregnancy isn’t always acceptable. The real question is why bodily autonomy is protected in some cases but not in others

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Most states strict on abortion already have a rape and incest exception. So the argument is flawed to use a massive minority situation to argue for abortion

@clrichmond77 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt If you think there’s no justification for abortion, that’s your value position but rarity doesn’t decide rights. The core issue is still whether someone can be forced to use their body for a pregnancy against their will

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Personally I don’t think there is any justification for abortion, just tired of folks like you that bring up a scenario that is so rare, it accounts for less than .3% of abortions.

@exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt It’s not about the percentage ffs it’s about whether people have the right to control what happens to their own body. Even if it were 1% or 99%, forcing pregnancy is still a serious bodily harm issue, not just a numbers debate

@jjaywalkingg @ABmrJutt That’s like 1% of pregnancies….

@SpiritusRexx @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt You’re a real weirdo then 😭 so much for being spiritual my guy

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt You convinced me - lock up everyone who gets an abortion regardless of circumstance. It is much cleaner that way.

@guirilondoner @penguin74us @ABmrJutt Abortion ends a pregnancy, not a fully developed baby, especially early on when a fetus can’t survive on its own, and adoption doesn’t remove the risks of pregnancy, so the choice should stay with the person whose body is involved

@jjaywalkingg @penguin74us @ABmrJutt So killing it is better than it living.

@Ben_Sapo123 @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Even if it’s 1%, you’re still saying those people matter less that their rights can be dismissed because they’re a minority. Rights don’t depend on how common a situation is.

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt That is like 1% of abortions. Bad argument

@SpiritusRexx @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt Your analogy still falls apart 😭self-defense is about protecting your body, and pregnancy also directly affects someone’s body and health. If you admit exceptions, then it’s not absolute.

@jjaywalkingg @exercisehistor1 @ABmrJutt You completely missed my point. Laws against murder = laws against elective abortions Self defense = carve outs for life of the mother, rape, and incest So - lets lock up the 99% of the women who get abortions every year. Deal?