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It's evidently a zerg rush. Old. Finnish. People ruined the internet.

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SPRAVDI — Stratcom Centre
SPRAVDI — Stratcom Centre@StratcomCentre·
Despite rescue operations by a wide range of his foreign friends, Hungary's Victor Orban faces more chants of "Russians go home" even in areas of the country formerly supportive of his Russian-backed Fidezs party. Sopron, Hungary
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Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦@IAPonomarenko·
Yay, tariffs upon Russia, finally! Right? Right??
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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@InfinitelyDean @Microinteracti1 @MaMoMVPY How you don't see the flaw in that statement is a mystery. You're posting it on a thread where the "you" you're referring to are discussing the disparity in details between information in "their bubble" and outside of it.
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Gandalv@Microinteracti1·
A few weeks ago I had a conversation with an American who genuinely believed Europe and Canada would help the United States in its war with Iran. I asked him why he thought that, given that Trump had spent months threatening to annex Canada and seize Greenland. He went quiet. Then he said he had never heard of any of that. Not that he disagreed. Not that he thought it was exaggerated. He had simply never encountered the information. It had never arrived. This is worth pausing on. Because in every other functioning democracy on earth, that information would have been impossible to avoid. Not because Europeans are smarter or more curious. But because of how news works outside the United States. The BBC and The Daily Telegraph hate each other. Le Monde and Le Figaro disagree on everything. Aftenposten and Dagbladet have been arguing since before most of their readers were born. But they all cover the same events. A threat to annex Canada is not a left-wing story or a right-wing story. It is a story. It runs everywhere. You hear it on the radio driving to work. You see it on the newsstand. Your colleague mentions it at lunch. Facts are not a channel you choose. They are the weather. You step outside and they hit you. The only media ecosystems on earth that work differently are not political opposites of each other. They are North Korea and Russia. Not because the content resembles MAGA content. But because the architecture is the same. In all three cases, outside information does not get filtered or reinterpreted. It gets blocked at the door. A completely parallel reality is built inside, maintained by repetition, and sealed from correction. This is why the rest of the world does not just disagree with MAGA voters on foreign policy. It finds them genuinely disorienting to talk to. Not offensive. Disorienting. Like speaking to someone who is absolutely certain the building has two floors when you are standing on the third. Which brings us to today’s masterclass. And this screenshot says everything. A Trump supporter posted: “Absolute masterclass by Trump. He got the Strait open without any help from Europe and without any boots on the ground.” That post was written on the same day a refinery on Lavan Island burned for hours after the ceasefire was announced. On the same day Iran’s own official statement read “this does not signify the termination of the war.” On the same day Iran kept its toll system, its uranium program, its protocol over the strait, and walked away with sanctions relief and reconstruction aid. The post is not stupid. It is not written by a bad person. It is written by someone who received a completely different set of facts than the rest of the world did. And from inside that information environment, with only that data, the conclusion is perfectly logical. That is what makes it so unsettling. It is not ignorance. It is a sealed universe, doing exactly what sealed universes do. Gandalv / @Microinteracti1
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Danielle Langlois
Danielle Langlois@DanielleLangWa·
What the commenters don’t understand: Fox News Corp’s anchors convinced Americans that **they were the only ones telling them the truth.** Tucker Carlson would even tell his viewers that everyone else hated them. Literally. I’d watch him do it. “They despise you.” That’s how this happened. They used sophisticated mental conditioning techniques over decades, combined that with the FNC-engineered “culture war” to inflame viewers’ emotions, and sheltered 38% of Americans from specific, important, how-can-they-not-know-this facts. TL/DR: Americans came to believe Fox News Channel every time it said “we’re the only one you can trust.”
Gandalv@Microinteracti1

A few weeks ago I had a conversation with an American who genuinely believed Europe and Canada would help the United States in its war with Iran. I asked him why he thought that, given that Trump had spent months threatening to annex Canada and seize Greenland. He went quiet. Then he said he had never heard of any of that. Not that he disagreed. Not that he thought it was exaggerated. He had simply never encountered the information. It had never arrived. This is worth pausing on. Because in every other functioning democracy on earth, that information would have been impossible to avoid. Not because Europeans are smarter or more curious. But because of how news works outside the United States. The BBC and The Daily Telegraph hate each other. Le Monde and Le Figaro disagree on everything. Aftenposten and Dagbladet have been arguing since before most of their readers were born. But they all cover the same events. A threat to annex Canada is not a left-wing story or a right-wing story. It is a story. It runs everywhere. You hear it on the radio driving to work. You see it on the newsstand. Your colleague mentions it at lunch. Facts are not a channel you choose. They are the weather. You step outside and they hit you. The only media ecosystems on earth that work differently are not political opposites of each other. They are North Korea and Russia. Not because the content resembles MAGA content. But because the architecture is the same. In all three cases, outside information does not get filtered or reinterpreted. It gets blocked at the door. A completely parallel reality is built inside, maintained by repetition, and sealed from correction. This is why the rest of the world does not just disagree with MAGA voters on foreign policy. It finds them genuinely disorienting to talk to. Not offensive. Disorienting. Like speaking to someone who is absolutely certain the building has two floors when you are standing on the third. Which brings us to today’s masterclass. And this screenshot says everything. A Trump supporter posted: “Absolute masterclass by Trump. He got the Strait open without any help from Europe and without any boots on the ground.” That post was written on the same day a refinery on Lavan Island burned for hours after the ceasefire was announced. On the same day Iran’s own official statement read “this does not signify the termination of the war.” On the same day Iran kept its toll system, its uranium program, its protocol over the strait, and walked away with sanctions relief and reconstruction aid. The post is not stupid. It is not written by a bad person. It is written by someone who received a completely different set of facts than the rest of the world did. And from inside that information environment, with only that data, the conclusion is perfectly logical. That is what makes it so unsettling. It is not ignorance. It is a sealed universe, doing exactly what sealed universes do. Gandalv / @Microinteracti1

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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@StefanNotSteven @TrevieFontana @Microinteracti1 conclusions they had reached on a given subject, as well as their explanations were accurate. The recent idea by US to "push back on anti-American disinformation" with fact posting from embassies makes me chuckle because it's so obviously doomed.
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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@StefanNotSteven @TrevieFontana @Microinteracti1 Before 24/7 real-time news cycle reporters had more time (or any, really) to check their stories. Publishing to large audiences took either money or merits. We trusted news, but even more we used to be able to trust that the experts and politicians cited in them, telling us the
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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
"The actions taken by Orban and Szijjarto, as proven by investigative journalists, have clear characteristics: they are deliberate, premeditated, and pursue clear objectives of supporting Russia against the humanitarian interests of Ukraine and the European Union."
Radu Hossu 🇹🇩🇺🇦@RaduHossu

Lavrov to Szijjarto: "[Following the information received about the Commission meeting] Sometimes a good willed blackmail is the best option." Szijjarto to Lavrov: "I am at your disposal." Lavrov to Szijjarto: "The Americans said that if they manage to sideline Ukraine, there are no limits [to U.S.-Russia economic cooperation]." Szijjarto to Lavrov: "Can Orban meet with Putin? Anywhere in Russia would be fine. You should know that the prime minister [Orban] is very flexible about the location." These are just a few exchanges from the latest revelation by the journalistic consortium investigating and publishing evidence that Hungary has violated European and likely national laws and betrayed Europe and Ukraine. Throughout Russia’s war against Ukraine, Szijjarto provided Russia with information, documents, and assistance that led to a slowing of European Union pressure or even its reduction. This gave Russia an advantage in the diplomatic, political, and economic fight with the European Union. The actions of Orbán, Szijjártó, and the Hungarian government (and the Slovak government under Fico) have aided Russia in its efforts to kill Ukrainians. This is what we must remember. The actions of Orbán’s Hungary have contributed to the killing of Ukrainians. The rape of Ukrainian children. The massacre of entire families. These are the results of the collaboration between Hungary (and Fico’s Slovakia) and Russia. The actions taken by Orban and Szijjarto, as proven by investigative journalists, have clear characteristics: they are deliberate, premeditated, and pursue clear objectives of supporting Russia against the humanitarian interests of Ukraine and the European Union. Hungary blackmailed the European Union to achieve Russia’s objectives! We learn from the new investigative episode that after Alaska, in Anchorage, Putin gave the meeting with Trump a perfect score and that America has an interest in setting aside the Ukrainian issue, and that then U.S.-Russia cooperation will be unlimited. We can speculate that this remark by Lavrov is Russian disinformation, but I can’t help but notice that Trump has become even more of Putin’s puppet after Alaska, and Zelenskyy was even more to blame for everything. By the way, Szijjarto is the one who shook hands yesterday with a guy who acts like a useful idiot for Russia: JD Vance. JD Vance, who came yesterday to support Orban in the election in four days. Who called Trump during the rally for Orban, and whom Trump once again backed. Trump and Vance are the ones who tried to humiliate Zelenskyy in the Oval Office, and they are also the ones threatening Europe, aiding extremists in Europe, playing into Russia’s hands, and pressuring Ukraine. Now that you’ve read this, don’t you understand Zelenskyy better when he lost his temper and said he’d hand Orban’s phone to the guys in the Ukrainian Armed Forces so they could call him?

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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@midwitpolitics @hennerschmidt @BohuslavskaKate They're not pressuring both sides. US envoys are taking turns tongueing Putin's rectum while Ukraine gets surprise freezes on already approved and paid for equipment. I get your reasonable argument but it's out of place. Vance didn't make his in good faith; you're defending it.
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midwitpolitics@midwitpolitics·
Ok. Then pressure Russia more to accept the ceasefire and peace with no de jure recognition just de facto. Let's assume they are forced due to losses and say yes. At the moment this happens, Ukraine says we do not accept anymore the original deal, we want now that they leave occupied Zaporozhye and Kherson too. And on and on and on. Like I said, morally there is no question who has the upper hand. But reality is different: it is impossible to make a deal without pressuring both sides.
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Kate from Kharkiv
Kate from Kharkiv@BohuslavskaKate·
Vance: ​“What I would say to both Russians and Ukrainians is we're talking about haggling over a few square kilometers of territory. Is that worth losing hundreds of thousands of additional russian and Ukrainian young men?" Vance is once again failing to distinguish between the aggressor and the victim, attempting to convince you that it is acceptable to pressure the victim into complying with the aggressor’s demands. He fails to recognize that he is not only urging Ukraine to surrender territories, but also the people who live there, our homes, and our most fortified defense lines dooming us for future attacks, because this war is not at all about territory, but about Ukraine existence as a state.
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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@carlos_dnger @VeryBrexitProbs Sigh. We elect our leaders. Those leaders form EUCO and propose a candidate for EC president. We elect our MEPs. Those MEPs vote to approve or reject that proposal. I'm glad my MEP opposed VdL II as well as many policies she promotes. Minority opinion is part of democracy.
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@realcarlos_danger
@realcarlos_danger@carlos_dnger·
@AlessaSCyan @VeryBrexitProbs Our Society was built on free will, determination and Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. And it shows. We bend the knee to no king - elected or otherwise. We choose our leaders, for better or worse, unlike the EU. Tell me, did you vote for Ursula von der Leyen?
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Very Brexit Problems
Very Brexit Problems@VeryBrexitProbs·
What if you stopped blaming Europe for your failings? What if you read a book? What if you did some basic research? What if you stopped voting for a clown baby who thinks you can nuke hurricanes? What if you got the fuck out of our continent so we don’t have to listen to your incessant, pitiful whining any longer?
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad

What if America is already far richer than anyone in the swamp is allowed to admit? What if the real drag on the Republic isn’t taxes, isn’t debt, isn’t even the deficit, it’s Europe? What if NATO was never a mutual defense pact, but a 75-year subscription America forgot to cancel? What if “burden sharing” is the most expensive euphemism in the English language? What if the City of London cabal is draining our banks? What if the advice from globalists is terrible advice that’s costing us big? What if every European basing agreement, every forward-deployed brigade, every Ramstein runway, every Aviano hangar, every Souda Bay pier is a tax American workers pay so Berlin can run a welfare state and Paris can run a 35-hour week? What if foreign aid to Europe isn’t aid, it’s tribute, flowing the wrong way? What if transporting the vast majority of trade on European owned ships costs more than we realize? What if the NGO archipelago in Brussels, Geneva, and The Hague is just a money-laundering loop where US taxpayer dollars get rinsed through a “civil society” conference and returned as lectures about our democracy? What if the UN isn’t a parliament of man, it’s a Manhattan timeshare with diplomatic plates, an accounting black hole, and a Human Rights Council chaired by people who’d jail you for tweeting this? What if “the rules-based international order” was always code for: Americans build it, Americans pay for it, Americans bleed for it, and Europeans grade it? What if $36 trillion in debt looks a lot smaller the second you stop underwriting a continent that sneers at you in three languages? What if you zeroed out the Europe line, the NATO line, the UN line, the NGO line, and woke up tomorrow in a country with the fiscal headroom to rebuild every shipyard, every foundry, every rail line, and every Navy hull we’ve let rot since the Cold War ended? What if American tourists went to American cathedrals, American opera, American museums, American cities instead. I’m not saying I believe all of it. I’m saying maybe, just maybe, we could pay down all our debt and wouldn’t have to pay taxes at all if we cut Europe loose.

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Jay in Kyiv
Jay in Kyiv@JayinKyiv·
Like a scene out of Yanukovych era Ukraine, Hungary's Russian-backed Orban regime handing out parcels of food and alcohol in exchange for votes.
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LNV
LNV@ELNVdc·
@PaulaChertok Trump has every right to talk to Putin. Russia is not a threat to the US. He's threat to Europe, but we're done pretending he's a threat to us
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🇺🇦Paula Chertok🗽@PaulaChertok·
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Trump admits his warped view of NATO comes from Putin's repeated "explanations." He's admitting that a hostile enemy state has successfully pumped the US president full of anti-US lies & disinformation. Are we even able to recognize a traitor??
Aaron Rupar@atrupar

Trump: "NATO is a paper tiger. Putin is not afraid of NATO. Putin's afraid of us. Very afraid of us. And he's explained it to me a lot of times."

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Heather Thomas@HeatherThomasAF·
@atrupar Witcoff and Kushner? It's either a money launder, ally betrayal or top secret weapons system. They open their raincoats and hot wrist watches fall out. Maybe a little planned terrorism in time to cancel midterms?
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Aaron Rupar
Aaron Rupar@atrupar·
Sorry, but this is just a bizarre tweet from a CNN reporter. The “world should thank” our corrupt cosplay secretary of state Witkoff for brokering a break in a war he helped start that accomplished absolutely nothing for the United States or Iranian people but left conditions in the region worse than they were 6 weeks ago? How was any of this a win for anyone beyond the emboldened Iranian regime?
Frederik Pleitgen@fpleitgenCNN

This is a major achievement for US Special Envoy @SEPeaceMissions and Iranian Foreign Minister @araghchi as well as Pakistan’s leadership. It could pave the way for a long term peace between the US and Iran as well as a reset of security in the Middle East. The odds were stacked against them but they got it done. The world should thank them both.

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Donald Tusk
Donald Tusk@donaldtusk·
Victor Orbán’s minister offered Sergey Lavrov to send him EU documents through the Hungarian embassy in Moscow. It’s really beyond shocking.
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alessa@AlessaSCyan·
@carlos_dnger @VeryBrexitProbs "3D museums"? Oh lawd. Your immigrant ancestors were often nonconformists of European societies. Here in old census lists many who later left for America are listed as dependent lodgers. Your society is built upon people who didn't want to be part of one.. and it shows.
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@realcarlos_danger
@realcarlos_danger@carlos_dnger·
@AlessaSCyan @VeryBrexitProbs For modern global communications, er, yes. Obviously. Europe has some neat 3D museums like Paris and the Germans used to make great cars. We also like some of the Scottish golf courses and Italian wine. The rest of it - meh. I guess that why our immigrant ancestors left.
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