IvoryF8

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IvoryF8

IvoryF8

@Ivory2131

Never talked on twt much in the first place but this accs probs only gonna be used to talk abt zeal things, I don't rly want to get harrased but im free to chat

شامل ہوئے Nisan 2026
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chrissy-♡
chrissy-♡@thloveofthgame·
reminder because of recent events
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly (ignore the duplicate, only havent deleted so as to not make things confusing in any way)
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly ( Decided to just counter all points under this reply instead individually responding to each one )
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goobly
goobly@go0bly·
i know im probably shadowbanned but i realize i can just do this because i can ok so thread on a bunch of stuff that really seems offputting to me, i also spoke on this with my grandpa who worked with law enforcement for a bit of the stuff here too souhhh yeah
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx

docs.google.com/document/d/1_6… Additional Context and Clarification Regarding Recent Allegations

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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly Zeal on the other hand realistically mentions how he has no internet access (an important condition hospitals tend to require if they give you electronics in these situations ). everything was uploaded by his mom, which we know for a fact was actually done by his mom
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly 4. in this point you yourself claim that this is not something that is a 100% certainty. furthermore the dbf situation is a horrible example, Drakos calims sounded like an obvious fairytale where they'd have to somehow steal a keycard for it to be even remotely true
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly 3. Zeals claims do not use his autism as a crux, it has exactly one mention in his document which provides important context. Studies show that consensual first times can often be non verbal pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC35…
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly 2. a more accurate analogy would be "asking to be poked with a knife (initial intimacy, the kiss), and then as it is slowly pressed further in, guiding it while making eye contact and nodding ( nv cues of giggling, smiling, and holding him closer )"
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly Your sources have nothing to do with you claim that zeals comment on consent was wrong by the way. these are each about consent during active intercourse. not a 6 months later situation like zeal mentions, some actually support his claim.
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IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@thloveofthgame @OneHypergiant @R0ttenTr33 @pavidssss Zeal is aware of the fact that Ren has in the past manipulated a crush of hers into hating her, and gotten herself fired on purpose to avoid quitting. this shows that she pushes rather than pulls closer, her current actions actually contradict her prior behaviors that zeal knows.
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@R0ttenTr33 @OneHypergiant @thloveofthgame @pavidssss Here's is what zeal claimed happened. however to further point at something, zeal never did anything past this point unless Ren initiated things. She asked if he wanted her to touch it after this. He waits for direct action from Ren before actually doing anything. as if unsure
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R0TTEN TR33
R0TTEN TR33@R0ttenTr33·
@OneHypergiant @thloveofthgame @Ivory2131 @pavidssss I think he should've understood that after the way she kept rapidly changing her opinion on things to please him, autism or not it doesn't excuse anything - if she said no the first time, I wouldn't be convinced if she started rapidly saying how she wants to continue
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@RageOfTheAbyss Furthermore, her friend immediately decided to delete every reply in the conversation we were having right after revealing this fact. which is also very suspicious
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@RageOfTheAbyss according to friends she altered the most important piece of her entire doc on purpose. that's tampering with evidence, not some mistake. How can you believe the rest of her claims so easily when the credibility of her doc is highly questionable?
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JustFluff
JustFluff@RageOfTheAbyss·
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IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@nuh_win @yesokmori The second message is irrelevant because to target Rens internal (blue) statements when making a counterargument makes no sense, those statements are subjective and not verifiable, so denying them doesn’t actually prove anything and will comes across as dismissive/invalidating
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@nuh_win @yesokmori First off she doesn't describe Textbook SA. Nvc is recognized in courts and in many relationships. What she does do, is describe her preferences and express her desire to guide zeal in their next experience. This is more clear if you look at the entire conversation they had
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly @thloveofthgame @pavidssss And for the first point, zeal never attacks internal statements of Ren, everything he counters are claims made against him. The vague "other things" Zeal includes are categorically different from what is highlighted in blue
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goobly
goobly@go0bly·
@Ivory2131 @thloveofthgame @pavidssss zeal outright excluded this one screenshot out of all the other things that they did include no person should have to EXPLAIN to somebody consentAFTER the sex happened
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@go0bly @thloveofthgame @pavidssss That is Ren describing her preference, not explaining the concept of concent, you can see this in the full context of the conversation. "Small pecks then long kisses" "I'll guide you" "so I can feel ready" She calls it coaching in her own document
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@nuh_win @yesokmori Zeal is responding to what is highlighted in red. Rens claim is that zeal brushed off her desire to take it slow with a "yeah", zeal explains that he didnt brush it off but just didn't have much else to say because he agreed that things went a bit fast. this is shown with the red
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Nuhwin
Nuhwin@nuh_win·
@Ivory2131 @yesokmori Even if Zeal somehow drew lines on the same way you did AND conveniently cropped out the worst part of the screenshot, how is "I agreed I took it too fast" a good response to "U just ripped everything off and did stuff without asking".
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JassoYukko
JassoYukko@C_collapse101·
@Unknowstal51882 @IncognitoPersey idk, yo no creo que hayan mentido sino que estan mostrando sus puntos de vista, pero como Ren le tiene un re contra odio pues no se puede hacer mas. Zeal pudo haber hablado pacificamente con ella pero ella no coopera y no lo digo solo por el tema sino porque estuvo jodiendo
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IvoryF8
IvoryF8@Ivory2131·
@HimiHito @yinyangoverlord so if there is an argument present, would there not be a notion of a discussion surrounding that argument especially given context? Does the ongoing discussion around that "argument" and topics brought up suddenly not exist?
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NICE Cherie 🧠💉
@Ivory2131 @yinyangoverlord I called your point an argument because that’s what it was. I was explaining and adding a bit more to it because it does depend highly on the situation, and I went further to explain my point by providing more examples of when it wouldn’t count ((coercion, alcohol, drugs))
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Gengar!Gengar!Gengar!Gengar!Gengar!Gengar!Gengar!G
"but but Ren said inappropriate things to zeal about wanting sex!" Let's highlight some important parts shall we? "They could say yes to the tea, but change their mind when you make the tea." "Just because someone said yes to the tea a week ago, doesn't mean they want it now."
Chirpyruko@chirpyruko

Roblox should update it so that if you want to publish a game you need to watch this video for the entire duration and then answer a quiz on it

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