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peggy
@pegfault
But you merely adopted the ponzi; I was born in it, moulded by it
加入时间 Ağustos 2022
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@Cbb0fe @buyerofponzi wow, he’s farming invisible points and farming engagement by implying his basis trades are directional!
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@pegfault lighter gets usdc yield on their tvl from circle and uses it for this program
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perp funding rates are a historical vestige, from when arthur waved his hand
i was very excited to collab w/ lighter to help ideate this
long term $ comes from usdc tvl yield - giving it to open positions (funding discount) vs simply collat has virtuous cycle effects imho
Lighter@Lighter_xyz
Today we are introducing Funding Rate Rebates for perp traders on Lighter. This is another step forward in making trading as capital efficient as possible and aligning incentives on Lighter.
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@izebel_eth how does lighter monetize usdc tvl?
or you are just saying this happens indirectly by usdc tvl being generally correlated with volume?
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@pegfault the cost scales with the revenue ie to open new positions requires usdc tvl which lighter will make $ yield on and pass back thru, its all v elegant long term
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@0xLoris @ExaltedFoks @TroveMarkets its about housing the risk in an environment with crypto constraints (no negative equity)
crypto perps work because the underlying is liquid 24/7
equity perps (kinda) work because price bounds can be a stopgap when markets are closed
neither of those apply to collectibles
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well there should be a synthetic way to get exposure
and the best derivative on earth is the perpetual future, so in that sense i disagree
i agree that it's hard though
it comes down to supply and demand. if there is demand (users who want exposure), there will be supply (market makers making markets)
but if everyone gets liquidated every time there is a 20% intraday wick because it's being manipulated, it's a worse than useless market
correctly incentivizing supply/demand to meet and establishing oneself as the credible, neutral exchange where trades should occur is the hard part
trove just failed at every single line item
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i didn't invest but i disagree that the @TroveMarkets concept is bad just because they committed crimes
yes the idea is fun, people love the underlying products themselves, it's got sex appeal
but from a portfolio construction perspective i also see why someone would want exposure to something art-adjacent like, idk, pokemon cards or birkins
going into the post-scarcity AGI world, physical objects as an asset class could go bananas
however the actual implementation of perps on these markets is definitely a lot more boring than people would want it to be, and the price bands would need to be set to something everyone would hate like 5% per week to prevent manipulation
the Trove implementation is/was really bad though. intraday 20% whipsaw moves caused by a lack of effective price band constraints is a dealbreaker
the other primary issue in the implementation was of course the crime

Bobo | Dev Arc🏔️@MajinBobo0x
@0xLoris As someone who has been an avid collector in tcg and pop culture. Trove was never going to work and I don’t know why people thought it could lol.
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@blknoiz06 @Hashbergers it's a memecoin man
i own some and it prob continues to pump, but let's not pretend like it is anything other than a mascot
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it's evident that opus 4.5 model was distinctly more advanced than others in how effective it is in allowing engineers to build from scratch - there's currently no way of betting on this upside directly since anthropic is private
creator of claude code & many other renowned engineers have explained how their current setup utilizes multiple individual agents working in parallel, so it is likely that future of SWE incorporates some similar strategy
Yegge is a principled engineer and ex-Googler with 20+ years of experience writing code, gas town is an attempt at standardizing a methodology for working with multiple agents at the same time to create projects, no such architecture currently exists
kubernetes is a framework that helps devs manage instances of their application across the cloud & is very popular in most software stacks, if there were to exist a framework for managing multiple agents in parallel it could also become as commonly used across the board
if you believe that the current state of ai is the same as it was in late 2024 then you are not paying close attention
if crypto becomes the best way for devs to monetize their work early on then the results of that are obvious, & it any of this tokenized open source software actually sees widespread usage then the internet capital markets thesis actually starts to make sense
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12 hours later and still nobody has a good thesis or explained to me why any of these Ai coins are revolutionary or any better than the last run of Ai coins.
Kinda disappointing, was hoping that literally anyone could give a half decent argument.
Hash@Hashbergers
So @blknoiz06 what is so great about $GAS besides your entry? From what I can see this is just vibecoding workflow garbage. I highly doubt you can provide a genuine thesis that will reflect a $36m mc but I'd love to hear you try.
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@dailybrd @ambient_xyz is legitimately cool but seems impossible to get exposure until mining goes live
llm wrapper stuff seems cooked, need a 0 to 1 innovation
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i would greatly appreciate @Lighter_xyz publishing how many points were redistributed due to sybils / wash trading, and how the redistribution happened
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@hantengri @Polymarket @PolymarketTrade i agree that the premarket futs are not the best instrument
but these arent even pretending to be the same thing, poly is betting on one day after launch, the hyperp converts instantly
so the market is projecting heavily negative returns on the first day of trading
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fogo is trading at a $2.7b fdv on Hyperliquid’s pre-market, while Polymarket traders are betting that post tge it won’t even hold above $1b or even $700m
this is yet another proof that perp pre-markets are manipulated through pure crime and that a prediction market like Polymarket offers far more realistic signal
anyone claiming otherwise is welcome to express that view directly on fogo NO order books, i’ll be happy to meet them there


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