the reason abortion is the most important issue for women is that it's the last remaining irreversibility in modern life nothing to do with "bodily autonomy" or "rights", just the simple fact that you can't undo it, and we've lost the capacity to accept that men can walk away. sure, legally and financially liable, maybe, but not physically abortion is the only exit from the one consequence that cannot be escaped otherwise anyone with a functioning brain knows it has nothing to do with "choice", you choose to have sex, you accept the consequences. but we can't accept consequences anymore this is why it's politically sacred, because everything else already has an exit. marriage used to have permanence, an oath before God with no reversal, divorce made it provisional. college became four years of delayed adulthood, a holding pattern before real decisions. careers can pivot, cities change, identities reinvent we systematically removed every forcing function for commitment. burned no boats. kept every option open pregnancy is the last thing left that doesn't care about your preferences

@IterIntellectus I don’t know if that’s why women fight for abortion, but it’s an interesting POV and certainly has some truth from a culture momentum perspective. We hate consequences.

@IterIntellectus Very good post

@IterIntellectus People are scared to death of accountability and to make (final) decisions. Very well put!

@IterIntellectus Everyone talks about rights, nobody talks about plights, it seems to have become a forgotten word

@IterIntellectus That's why

@IterIntellectus 🎯

@IterIntellectus it’s not just abortion, it’s the fuel of the ideas they fill up those girls’ brains with all the way that lead to them being scared or rejecting bringing new life

we built a society around the assumption that men and women can play the same economic roles. Pregnancy is the moment that cuts through that story and shows how different the biology really is. That’s why abortion carries so much political weight, it’s the only thing that lets a woman bring her situation closer to the male baseline the marketplace was built around. without it, the idea of equality runs straight into the limits of biology.

@IterIntellectus This is spot on. There are two things missing from modern life which are turning the world to hell... 1. Sacrifice (for others and for society) 2. Accountability.

2 reasons this a really stupid argument: 1) If pregnancy were truly irreversible, like you claim, abortion would not exist. The entire political fight is about whether the reversible option (abortion) is morally legitimate. You're literally calling abortion “politically sacred” because it reverses the one thing you are saying is irreversible. That is logically self-destructing. 2) If irreversibility is the real sacred thing, adoption would be a front-page political identity issue. It isn’t.

@IterIntellectus Exhibit A.

One day men will understand that abortions is just not a crazy liberal with a breed + kill kink but mostly women in awful life situations who are coerced into unprotected sex. They need a way out. Also kids born from such unions would be doomed, guaranteed a miserable life for the majority of them. I'll keep repeating: The day men accept reversible vasectomy at 18 yo (permission of reversion given by their partner to raise kids after negotiation) so that unwanted kids aren't conceived, then men's opinion on abortion will be considered. In the meantime, us women have to deal with all that sh!t. Want to help us? Wear latex, use toys or just be a decent human. It takes 2 to tango. 🎤 🫡

@IterIntellectus >you choose to have sex, you accept the consequences. Such stupid logic. What other case would this hold for? Get a serious disease from visiting a sick person? "You knew the natural risks, you accepted the natural consequences, no antibiotics for you"

We built a culture of exits. From jobs. From cities. From identities. From marriage. Pregnancy is the last place reality still says: this matters whether you’re ready or not. This isn’t about “control.” It’s about a culture that wants sex without consequence and power without cost. When sex has no meaning, abortion becomes the cleanup crew. When sex is sacred, life is protected naturally. Exceptions like rape or lethal risk are tragedies — not permissions. They call for mercy, not convenience. Life is not an accident. And sex is not a hobby.

@IterIntellectus Our society is marinated in poison of delaying responsibility / commitment. People wants to live theirs "instagram life" not real one. So called choice is nothing more than immaturity. Nobody wants to be responsible for anything.

@IterIntellectus idk man tonsillectomies are pretty damn irreversible

@IterIntellectus Insightful.

@IterIntellectus An insult to the modern ““god-man””… unfortunately there are more things in modern society like this as well

@IterIntellectus Funny how the permanence is for women only.

@IterIntellectus Maybe. But there's still no good reason to criminalize first trimester abortions.

@IterIntellectus As long, as we will have any kind of discussion if "killing at will" another human being (abortion / euthanasia) is any kind of right or even legal possibility (if not right), we (as a society) are doomed. (take no.2)

@IterIntellectus I understand the point. Grok said Reagan caused a state level cascade: On September 5, 1969, Governor Reagan signed the California Family Law Act of 1969, which went into effect on January 1, 1970. @BriscoeCain Sir FYI

@IterIntellectus So? Who cares? Why is it wrong to eliminate negative consequences for sex?

@IterIntellectus yeah

@IterIntellectus If we ever accepted that tradeoff of “women’s sexual pleasure is of higher importance than the life of a baby” was wrong then we might start to look at other personal virtues that move the individual away from selfishness & the pursuit of hedonistic pleasure to higher things

@IterIntellectus Human traffickers love abortion.

A self governing woman does not rely on government to look out for her best interests. Women who cling to this issue want people to treat them like they're the Virgin Mary when they are really Taylor Swift, at best. If you are selective about your partner, are in a stable relationship, the chance of you being victimized and being in an unwanted situation declines. But that takes a loyal, protective partner. I know why some women struggle and NEED the fight, but most have accountability issues. I am Pro Life for myself. Read that again. I don't need a government, I self govern. This means a guy in my life would need to understand what that means. But I'm not going to get in other people's faces about it. I wouldn't choose to put my kid up for adoption. I wouldn't choose termination. So I have to be responsible, because any potential child of mine deserves the best life I can give them, better even.

@IterIntellectus It's an illusion. Consequences can only be delayed. 10 years later you will be miserable and alone if you try to avoid consequences. Humans need to feel accepted and capable. This includes taking responsibility for consequences, both good and bad.

Given the choice I’d rather have consequence free sex. In a society where abortion is legal women have that choice a bit more than men do but at least one involved party does. I don’t think unwanted parenthood should be considered a consequence of having sex we should always have to accept. Being a parent is not a punishment for having sex.

@IterIntellectus True. But it’s still infanticide