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@dttpeople JS looked at them, coincidentally found a glyph that was similar to one he knew , but quickly lost interest. No one claims was omniscient, but he clearly put little value on the KH plates. There's more fiction to your claims. mormonr.org/qnas/a9l1T/the…

I don't know how the Kinderhook Plate incident can be explained any other way except that Joseph Smith was a fraud. 🤷‍♂️ Constantly making up stories. Sorry

@Midjorityrules @dttpeople Joseph never claimed to use revelation on the KH plates. He had them for a week, attempted to translate one glyph, then said he wont translate more unless it got officially verified. mormonr.org/qnas/a9l1T/the…

@Wafflewarf @dttpeople "I have translated a portion of them" ohhh, looks like waffle is the one here telling fibs

@Midjorityrules @dttpeople Its from Willaim Clayton's journal, writing in first person in proxy. The "translation" conclusion was based on compared glyphs. Not revelation, or spiritual anything. Academic, like the scholars it tricked. churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/… fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Kinder…

@Wafflewarf @dttpeople What he actually apparently said

@cb4136 @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez Remembering tv commercials from my childhood is perverted? Crazy how you associate children toys with sexuality. Is sex your whole identity or are you still unraveling that in therapy?

@Wafflewarf @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez why are you thinking of tickle me elmo? seems like creepy pedo behavior

There would be 0 benefit to having sex with a man because it produces nothing. So there’s actually no reason for me to go against my natural inclination to have sex with women. But, you know what is unnatural for almost all men? Monogamy. Do you really think it’s natural for a man to have sex with only one woman for the rest of his life? Of course, it’s not. But, guess what… monogamy is good for me, good for my wife, good for my children, and good for society. I choose to live a monogamous life. It’s unnatural. And it is also good.

@cb4136 @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez

@Wafflewarf @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez roflmao

@cb4136 @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez Mocking? Peer pressure? Is your method of argumentation based on hoping I care about majority opinion or fitting in? Shame culture? Did you have a point at all or did you learn your reasoning from a Tickle-Me Elmo?

@Wafflewarf @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez lmfao

@valorthodoxia Islam? 1300 yrs Taoism? 2500 yrs Shinto? 2700 yrs Ancient Egyptian? 3500 yrs Zoroastrianism? 3500 yrs Hinduism? 9000 yrs

If your theology requires 1,500 years of Christians to be wrong, maybe revisit your theology.

@cb4136 @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez Which part? That a straight man having sex with a gay man wouldnt prove anything and is dismissable? That a gay man can choose a straight marriage? That one can choose not to be defined by their sexuality?

@Wafflewarf @MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez what an astoundingly daft take

@MikeCanning7 @joshnaa2gez Doubt it, because it can easily be dismissed as bi. It takes a brave Gay man to have a straight marriage, switch or no, because he chooses to value it and because sexuality does not dictate his life choices.

@joshnaa2gez The benefit would be, actually showing people it's possible to flip the switch on their sexuality, for the greater good. You doing it once might bring hundreds of gay men over to your cause. That seems to be a net benefit.

@Santo_Andyroo @Romans724120566 @joshnaa2gez

"32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?" - Luke 24:32 "22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, "23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23

Christians giving sermons talk endlessly about the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Christians arguing with Mormons downplay the importance of the Holy Ghost in a way that is borderline blasphemous. But, here’s the truth… Evangelicals can claim sola scriptura all they want… Catholics can cite their centuries old traditions all they want… And Latter-day Saints can cite modern prophetic revelation all they want… But, in the end, the appeal to authority cannot be validated without the confirmation of the Holy Ghost. And, the word of God- whether in canonized scripture or from a living oracle- cannot be received without the whispering of the Holy Ghost. That thing you downplay as “feelings” is actually divine revelation. And in the end, everything comes back to that.

@tscottme @ThoughtfulSaint Your false philosophical premise made you think we reject the bible and the god of the bible. You just dont like how we interpret the bible.

@ThoughtfulSaint Look up Xeno's Paradox. Philosophers once convinced themselves that it was impossible to walk across a room by adopting a false premise. LDS rejects Trinity, then rejects how the Trinity works, then rejects the Bible & God of the Bible. because it doesn't meet their expectation.

Because intelligent people care about logic. 1) Jesus is God 2) God cannot die 3) Jesus died This is classic logical contradiction. Courageous people try to resolve contradictions instead of running away from them. And just asserting they resolved this long ago is not an argument.

@CwC_16 @ThoughtfulSaint We do. Jesus was a god as a spirit before he was born in the flesh. This is prob a stupid semantic argument backlash. Usually starts when people misinterpret our view in the worst possible way, use that to make assumptions, and proclaim us heretics by said assumptions.

@ThoughtfulSaint Clarifying question - do LDS not believe that Jesus was a god in any form until after his resurrection?

@dttpeople @LoganMPierce1 nice attempt at interpreting scripture, but Joseph Smith did it better. Probably because he had revelation, you know, like a real prophet.

1st heaven in the bible simply means sky: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." Gen 1:20 Are birds flying in actual heaven? No. 2nd heaven is beyond that in outer space. Sun, moon ect: "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night" Gen 1:14 3rd heaven is what Paul was talking about. It's the only actual "heaven", as in heaven vs hell.

If Mormons just said these things up front. I wouldn't agree, but at least I'd respect the forthrightness. Instead Mormons play word games. If they are simply ashamed of these beliefs, why believe them! Either be proud and upfront or abandon shameful beliefs.

@japan_nobunaga Thanks, but in matters of discipline, I am still a student, so I humbly share the wisdom that has been shared with me. I hope you enjoy your time in America, friend.

@Wafflewarf ふむ、そなたの言う通り、これは己を律する心の戦いであったか。深き洞察、まこと感服いたすでござる。

A restaurant in America handed me a cup of soda. Then the waiter said two words and walked away. "Free refills." I sat in silence. I understood the gravity of it. This was a trial of endurance, set by the establishment, to test the spirit of the customer. To accept free and then leave anything behind would shame my ancestors. They were watching. I felt them watching. So I drank. I refilled. I drank. I refilled. The machine and I became one. An hour passed. Then two. The ice ran out. My hands shook. A small child at the next table pointed at me and asked his mother a question. She pulled him away. At cup fifteen I could no longer feel my teeth. At cup eighteen I began to see sounds. I did not stop. A samurai does not retreat from "free." This was no longer about soda. This was about who I am. At cup nineteen the manager came out. He gently took the cup from my hands and said, "sir, you can go home." I had lost. I bowed to him and left, sloshing with every step. In America, how many refills is the winning number? Tell me, so the next man knows when to stop.

Make sure to take your daily dose of Japanese Twitter 20mg to remedy any effect caused by doom-scrolling.

The Book of Mormon is the word of God and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.

@GuyInco15542744 Assuming they actually prayed about it, Their concepts of our church beliefs are mostly incorrect anyways. Why would God give a positive answer on misinformation? The well is already poisoned

Critics: the Bible is all of Gods word. He doesn’t say anything outside it. Same critic: God told me Mormonism is wrong, why won’t the Latter Day Saints believe me when I say that. Can’t imagine why

@JS_StrngstSldr It is unfortunatly a very tight space. Like unto a dish.

The Church must be behind this...

@SwissArmySpoon1 @surskitmaxxing @realldslion @AnneOfTheBooks You really think David was singing about the Bible? His Word isn't just the Bible. Its all the teachings and prophesy and blessings He gives through His Spirit. His Word is the Gospel, a promise of everlasting life through Jesus Christ.

@Wafflewarf @surskitmaxxing @realldslion @AnneOfTheBooks Psalm 138:2 You have magnified Your word above all Your name. God thinks highly of His own word. Mormons do not.

I hate to break it to @AnneOfTheBooks , but if the Bible is her standard, then the Bible fails as well.