Being Perceived Despiser

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Being Perceived Despiser

Being Perceived Despiser

@AvoidPerception

Please stop perceiving me.

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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
@HansFiene Pr. Wendorf helped a woman divorce her husband without any justification, then issued her a call as a DCE after she was excommunicated from her home congregation. He refused to speak to her husband. He was just re-elected as Area C VP of the Texas District.
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@SubstituteS23 The people who are liable to say “that’s too Catholic” are not likely to be taking Pr. Weedon’s side in liturgical discourse. It’s perfectly legitimate to lament liturgical innovations that change the shape of the average Christian’s life in worship.
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Substitute Lutheran
Substitute Lutheran@SubstituteS23·
I do wonder, why would the Lutheran Witness speak against a perfectly valid choice presented in the hymnal. I do not need LW giving people any excuse for made up fears of RCC "intrusions" in the Church.
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
Dispy Zionist who uses “goy” to refer to Israelis as an honorific because of Exodus 19:6
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
“Jack uses the framework of ‘if my enemies like it it’s bad and if my friends like it it’s good.’ Stone choir uses this framework, which means it’s bad, so I can’t support Jack.”
Rev. Christopher J. Neuendorf 🦬@cjneuendorf

I admired Jack Posobiec until I noticed him joining up with the Subversive Right a couple of years ago. If he hadn’t lost me then, he’d be losing me now. He’s framing LotR just like Stone Choir does everything: If my enemies like it, it’s bad; if they hate it, it’s good.

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@TheMiddleborne Moral cowardice would be the way you have been proven wrong yet you insist on white knighting for this girl and her husband.
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Elijah the Middleborne
Elijah the Middleborne@TheMiddleborne·
Michael, you, as a loquacious podcaster who makes his living using words(though not when writing books), know full well how different words, despite being definitively the same, carry vastly different meanings and implications by how they’re used, You choose to reword what he said in a vile way and use that as a springboard for public mockery and derision. “well he opened it up for me to call her a whore, So it’s his fault” is the excuse of a moral coward
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles

I suspect you didn’t intend to disrespect your wife, and so you might have been surprised that some people, myself included, criticized you for speaking in a way that is unbecoming of a husband. I think you made a mistake. But your points here are not sound. 1. I never said you used that word. I said that’s what you called her (while contrasting her sin with your own virtue). “Promiscuous” is an adjective, the nearest nouns for which are “whore” and “slut.” 2. They are all pejorative terms that refer to people who engage in sexual immorality. They all carry negative connotations because they refer to shameful acts. If the nouns are more evocative than the adjective, that owes more to their Saxon (rather than Latinate) origins than to their meaning. It’s the same reason “pulchritudinous” is less evocative than “hot.” The words all mean the same thing, and we should not refer to our wives in such a way—certainly not to millions of strangers. 3. My phrasing was not in the present tense but rather the past. (See: “called” versus “calls” or “is calling.”) But even my description of your wording does not imply the present tense. By way of analogy, “she was promiscuous” : “he called her a whore” :: “Jeter was a Bronx Bomber” : “he called him a Yankee.” (Derek Jeter does not currently play for the Yankees, and the final comment does not suggest that anyone thinks he does.) As I said, I don’t think you meant to disrespect your wife. You might have the best of intentions. None of that is my point. You made a controversial post, which included both admirable comments about grace and inappropriate language that in my estimation is unbecoming of a husband and not to be recommended to others—hence my public commentary on your own public statement.

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Michael Knowles
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles·
I suspect you didn’t intend to disrespect your wife, and so you might have been surprised that some people, myself included, criticized you for speaking in a way that is unbecoming of a husband. I think you made a mistake. But your points here are not sound. 1. I never said you used that word. I said that’s what you called her (while contrasting her sin with your own virtue). “Promiscuous” is an adjective, the nearest nouns for which are “whore” and “slut.” 2. They are all pejorative terms that refer to people who engage in sexual immorality. They all carry negative connotations because they refer to shameful acts. If the nouns are more evocative than the adjective, that owes more to their Saxon (rather than Latinate) origins than to their meaning. It’s the same reason “pulchritudinous” is less evocative than “hot.” The words all mean the same thing, and we should not refer to our wives in such a way—certainly not to millions of strangers. 3. My phrasing was not in the present tense but rather the past. (See: “called” versus “calls” or “is calling.”) But even my description of your wording does not imply the present tense. By way of analogy, “she was promiscuous” : “he called her a whore” :: “Jeter was a Bronx Bomber” : “he called him a Yankee.” (Derek Jeter does not currently play for the Yankees, and the final comment does not suggest that anyone thinks he does.) As I said, I don’t think you meant to disrespect your wife. You might have the best of intentions. None of that is my point. You made a controversial post, which included both admirable comments about grace and inappropriate language that in my estimation is unbecoming of a husband and not to be recommended to others—hence my public commentary on your own public statement.
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Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry
Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry@pegobry_en·
1. This has been well-known for decades 2. Bizarre to suggest the natural implication is that "men trying to conceive" should masturbate rather than just have sex more often Ideal sperm age is 2-3 days which seems to me rather suggests that is the optimal sexual frequency for married couples and the normal frequency for our ancestors. And lo and behold, surveys show this is the average frequency for happily married (esp religious) couples. Again, very bizarre to start drawing consequences about masturbation.
University of Oxford@UniofOxford

'Male masturbation may have an adaptive benefit: it flushes out damaged, stored sperm.' New Oxford research suggests that the longer sperm are stored before ejaculation, the lower their quality, with implications for men trying to conceive and IVF treatment. Find out more ⬇️

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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
@Pastor_Gabe Strange that you would post this after I’ve already shown you how you have slandered and strawmanned those you oppose on this issue. You need to repent.
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Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes@Pastor_Gabe·
You'll pardon me that I don't have the blue check luxuries anymore. Responding to the "gotcha" Kangmin Lee made against me:
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
This whole ordeal is one part of what God wants to preserve us from by making adultery a capital offense.
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
@Pastor_Gabe You presented the issue as though these people are denying that an adulterous woman cannot become be saved, when the reality is what I laid out above. Whoever you hoped to bring to the reader’s mind as “Christianish Nationalists” are the objects of your slander.
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
“Is this an attempt at a “gotcha,” or are you arguing for this strawman I made of your position?” It’s a demonstration of how acknowledging temporal consequences of sin is not a denial of the gospel.
WWUTT?@WWUTTcom

Hey, @kangminlee. You claim to be a Christian, correct? Quick question. What is the point of this exactly? Is it just an attempt at a “gotcha,” or are you arguing that formerly promiscuous women cannot be cleansed to become godly wives and mothers?

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@Pastor_Gabe This an admission that my accusation is correct, and you should therefore repent of slandering those who gave an appropriate response to those who insist that the gospel necessitates ignoring the past of a prospective wife.
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@ehnonamoose @Pastor_Gabe You are wrong. It’s a demonstration of temporal consequences remaining after conversion. If we can acknowledge that for other forms of sexual immorality, we can do so for this one. That doesn’t imply that the consequence for every sin is the same one.
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Ehnonamoose
Ehnonamoose@ehnonamoose·
I would argue that, yes, actually, they are arguing that. Because they are doing a hasty generalization and a massive non-sequitur by comparing past promiscuity to child abuse. And they are doing that explicitly because child abuse is so heinous that it socially and culturally it permanently causes people to distrust an abuser around children. So, it is, by very strong implication, arguing that a woman with a sexual history is forever barred from the vocations of wife and mother.
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
@Pastor_Gabe You are being willfully obtuse. This whole discourse started with pastors telling men not to consider such things when looking to take a wife “because of Rahab.” When people said that’s stupid, guys like you came out and said we’re denying the gospel.
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Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes@Pastor_Gabe·
@AvoidPerception "No serious person is claiming that such a woman cannot become a godly wife and mother." Well it looks like Lee is, which is why I've asked for clarification. Of course a man can decide not to marry a formerly promiscuous woman. Where have I said otherwise?
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@Pastor_Gabe No serious person is claiming that such a woman cannot become a godly wife and mother. We are saying that a man may to take her past into consideration and even allow it to deter him from marrying her without denying the gospel, because those sins affect how she lives.
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Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes@Pastor_Gabe·
@AvoidPerception Is the temporal consequence of sin that a formerly promiscuous woman cannot be a godly wife and mother? It’s not a strawman—it’s a reasonable question.
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Being Perceived Despiser@AvoidPerception·
This may SHOCK!! some of you, but it is incredibly crude and ugly to call your reformed Christian wife a whore And that is regardless of whether you use the word “whore” or nicer sounding words that mean the same thing
Queen Bethany, Legally Mom@NotBlindfolded

This may SHOCK!! some of you, but it is incredibly crude and ugly to call a reformed Christian woman a wh*re And that is regardless of whether or not her husband has (with permission) stated the facts of her past in perfectly polite terms

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