Kintsugijin

@EWErickson @GrigulisSylvia If you have to define Christianity with trinity instead of Jesus Christ, then you’re doing it wrong.

Yeah actually to be a Christian, one must accept the Trinity. it is Christianity 101. And I appreciate there are lots of people out there who disagree, but they are, in fact, wrong. They can complain all they want, but the Trinity is a basic Christian belief.

@Nero Wait until @Nero discovers that the Catholic Church approves of 14 yr olds marrying 65 yr olds with ratification through consummation as part of their canon law.

My gawd what embarrassing garbage

Mormonism is an American Masonic religion. It was birthed out of Protestantism but is a product of the satanic enlightenment. Understand these things

@occidensus Muslims do not claim to worship Jesus Christ.

@Kintsugijin Then by your definition Muslims are Christian.

I hate my timeline right now. Mormons are Christian. Christianity means discipleship of Jesus Christ. If your definition excludes people who worship Christ, covenant with Christ, preach Christ, and try to follow Christ, then your definition is broken. At that point, you’re not defending Christianity. You’re guarding a social club label. The question isn’t whether LDS are Christian. The question is why some people are so desperate to make Christ smaller than their own gatekeeping. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@cptfreedm I didnt desert Christ. I found myself fully in Him.

In Galatians: I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel, which is not just another account; but there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, even now I say again: if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

@Untilrose821 That is true. But only Catholics assert today that 14 yr old girls can marry 65 yr old men. I'll stick with LDS.

@Kintsugijin Catholic and Mormon doctrines can’t be reconciled. Both cannot be true. One is true and one is false. One is truly Christian and one is falsely claiming to be so. That is the reality and the reason for the timeline you dislike.

Should there be no elevation in preparation to be present with the Lord? The ancient tabernacles were not available to everyone. You had to elevate yourself to meet the divine. That is no difference with temple attendance. Second, we do not believe in an infinite regress of Gods. Third, Brigham was not perfect. Humanity is not perfect. God is perfect and Jesus Christ offered His perfection through His ministry. That doesn't mean humanity will be perfect in its application or our understanding over time. That's why prophetic counsel is important in modern day, to limit doctrinal drift and incorrect interpretation.

If gatekeeping isn’t important, why can’t a parent or sibling of a convert who is getting married in the temple go watch the wedding? Here’s the deal: most contemporary Christians—whether devout Catholics, holy-rolling Pentecostals, plainly clothed Mennonites, and everything in between—agree on the nature of God. Unchanging. Eternal. Creator of all that is or ever will be. There was no God before him nor will there be any afterward. Tag, he’s it. The Mormons don’t buy that. All sorts of different planets have their very own Gods. Before Jesus was sent to Earth to save us, there was a council of Gods to decide who was gonna get Earth. There’s a pre-mortal existence. Eternal progression means you can someday be God of your own planet. You might even be able to add a couple of celestial wives to crank out spirit children to help populate it. (Note: I have no idea what the gestation period is for spirit children.) Let’s be real. Mormonism is its own religion. Yes, they claim to worship Jesus. Okay, fine. But they vehemently disagree about the very nature of God. That’s not like the argument about instrumental music or individual communion cups. The identity and nature of God is pretty serious stuff. Oh, and one thing I’ve always found unamusing: God’s supposed to be eternal, unchanging, a rock upon which you can rely. The ever-changing doctrine in Mormonism is perplexing. Brigham Young was President, the Prophet following Joseph Smith. I was always fascinated by the Adam-God theory. Yes, Brigham Young succeeded Joseph Smith as the leader of what became the main body of the LDS Church. After Smith’s death in 1844, there was a succession crisis with several claimants, but Young—as President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles—emerged as the key figure. He led the Saints west to Utah and was sustained as President of the Church in 1847. On the Adam-God theory: Young did preach it, repeatedly and with conviction. In sermons (notably one in April 1852 recorded in the Journal of Discourses), he taught that Adam was not just the first man but our Father and God—Michael the Archangel, the Ancient of Days—who came to Earth with a celestial body, helped organize the world, and was the father of our spirits and of Jesus Christ in the flesh. He presented it as revelation, sometimes attributing elements to Joseph Smith. It wasn’t some offhand remark; it appeared in about 20 sermons and even influenced parts of the temple endowment for a time. The modern LDS Church no longer accepts it. Successors largely moved away from it quietly. By the early 1900s under Joseph F. Smith and others, it was being downplayed or actively distanced—statements called it a theory never formally adopted by the Church as doctrine. It was fully removed from the endowment around 1905. In 1976, President Spencer W. Kimball publicly denounced it in general conference as false doctrine. How do they explain a prophet teaching it? The common framing is that Young was expressing personal opinion or speculation, not binding revelation for the whole Church. Official positions emphasize that not everything a prophet says is infallible doctrine—only what is sustained as such by the Church. Critics see this as a clear shift or contradiction; defenders argue prophets are human and can err on non-core matters, and the Church’s living prophet today holds the keys. It’s one of those historical thickets that shows how doctrine develops over time in the tradition. The “he was speaking as a man, not as a prophet” excuse strikes me as a bogus get-out-of-jail-free card. Kind of like blacks and the priesthood. One plus one will always equal two. Sorry, way too many inconsistencies for this to be true. Plus L. Ron Hubbard was a better writer.

@bigger_bread @Lexvevindi Funny. My underwear is better than yours though. And fits my rocks better too.

@Kintsugijin @Lexvevindi I'm sorry, but I just can't take you guys seriously. 🤣

@Lawgiver2023 Welcome!

@Kintsugijin Thx brother

@gospel4grace Strange answer? Weird take.

@Kintsugijin Strange answer to a specific question. Why reframe?

@Lord_Byrom @Torgmada Agreed, and likewise! Thankfully, I am correct!

@Kintsugijin @Torgmada Only works if you’re actually incorrect.

@BRBC_Professor Why? Please explain with your big brain.

@Kintsugijin This is a very small-minded take on the issue.

@Tangledweb6523 Amen.

@Kintsugijin Don’t hate it bro! They are just funneling people with curiosity closer to the truth.

@Deigratia1985 Right, but the Catholic Church still affirms 14 even if the law says otherwise. And in foreign countries, that's okay. Sick and twisted if you ask me.

@Kintsugijin I don’t care about Catholics, one way or the other, but in most states in America you cannot marry at 14

@JamesRod1776 I'm saying that there is one Most High God and Jesus Christ is His Only Begotten Son.

@Kintsugijin So Jesus is Lord, but you claim there is not Trinity, not Triune God? So then you are saying there are more than one god?

Imagine using AI to define Jesus Christ for you instead of prayerfully seeking knowledge and understanding of Him through the Holy Spirit / Ghost. Mormons are the most Christian.

@tnsampson2 Enlighten me..

@Kintsugijin Well, that's true. I also know about Mormonism and the godhead it actually believes in and teaches.

@beetle67a We do not reject Christ's church. We are a restoration faith. Do you not know what that means?

@Kintsugijin You claim Apostasy and you reject His Church? You make Christ very, very small indeed. Repent, Mormon.

@HiredG31045 Thanks!

@Kintsugijin Good post!

@Politics_Matter Come to church Sunday and learn that your preconceptions of what we believe are so far off.

If Mormons actually believe god was once a man who elevated himself into godhood and that we can each elevate ourselves to become gods of our own planets, then that dilutes God and, in doing so, dilutes Jesus. That, to me, seems closer to Scientology than Christianity. Regardless, creating a diluted Jesus and then claiming to worship him seems rather disingenuous. But, all that being stated, most people don't care. Every Morman I've met was super nice and awesome. In general they are good people with big families who don't have a proclivity for violence and terrorism in any manner. So this debate is more academic, than substantive. @BasedMikeLee is Mormon, but I don't need to agree 100% with his religious beliefs to support the man. He's incredibly intelligent and is not afraid to stand up for what's right against wrong. That's enough for me to support him. 👍