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joe
joe@joe147180·
@_BlackSeptmber The same thugs that attacked her are now attacking migrants.
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BlackSeptemberCelt@_BlackSeptmber·
This happened last year just across the city from me. A pregnant Irish catholic woman was intimidated from her home by british UDA planters. One of many such individual instances over the last few years. Despite calls to do so from activists themselves - there was NO resulting mobilisation of Irish republicans in defence of this woman. No rallies to support her. No whipround for a few quid. Nothing. What sort of message does this send when foreign nationals are offered greater support and protection than our own people? That attacks on Irish catholics and their homes are part of the status-quo, something to be accepted, the usual existence for an Irish person living in a part of Ireland still occupied by Britain. This is unacceptable to me and many of the Irish republicans I know.
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BlackSeptemberCelt@_BlackSeptmber·
It is entirely possible to; -Reject the British/EU imposed policy of mass immigration to Ireland ( inspired by both capitalism and globalism) -Reject the presence of loyalist planters in the occupied six counties. -Support the establishment of a sovereign 32 county Irish Republic. -Support different national liberation struggles internationally. All while still remaining ideologically consistent.
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frankie
frankie@belfastbhoy1961·
My political views are no secret on here , I live in the middle of west Belfast too, so I know people’s views on immigration, nationalism has a problem, I’d say maybe 30% of nationalists are in support of the immigration protests. That’s a big number. ☘️
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@EireGalloglaigh @JacCymro1400 And yet they’re still not Irish. Integration is not a two way street. We’re under no obligation to accommodate them at all. A Murphy in Boston, no matter how far removed from his culture, will always be more Irish than the Indian guys I work with, regardless of economic input.
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Owen Buchanan 🇮🇪🇵🇸☭
@32contae @JacCymro1400 And the Indians you work with are literally here, literally working, literally part of the Irish economy. Integration is a two-way street, the state has failed at it. That's an argument for better integration policy, not for telling workers they can never be Irish. 2/2
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Owen Buchanan 🇮🇪🇵🇸☭
@32contae @fearlxinn IPAS residents aren't the question here, you've shifted from "can someone become Irish" to "did these specific people build Ireland." Those are different arguments. Answer the first one. 2/2
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Fergus
Fergus@fearlxinn·
Im Irish because my DNA says so.
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@JacCymro1400 To be Irish is neither blood nor soil, but political and class. Ian Paisley can call himself whatever he wants but a man who spent his life organising sectarian division in the service of capital was not Irish in any sense that matters.

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@32contae @JacCymro1400 Working class and living here gets you most of the way there regardless of your politics. Commitment to Ireland and its people seals it. A working class Indian lad in Dublin clears that bar easily. Some Yank O'Brian with no roots here isn't Irish in any meaningful sense.
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@EireGalloglaigh @fearlxinn And who built this country? Because it certainly was not the folk holed up in IPAS centres up & down the country. Connolly, Pearse etc were also very clear in the assertion that the Irish race is a real & tangible thing. One cannot become Irish.
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@32contae @fearlxinn In the sense that I think you mean it, no. No. Irish identity was forged through colonial resistance, not inherited through blood. Tone's whole project was building a nation across Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter. Ethnicity is part of the picture, it's not the foundation.
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