@photogenicplaty @RaonakRN @lymanstoneky Children, mentally ill, color blind, illiterate, blind, etc. A lot of people will vote blue. How are you not seeing or understanding this.
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@RaonakRN @lymanstoneky Why would people press blue at all?
The only reason people need saving is if they press blue. If they don't press blue, there's no need to save them, as they get to live by pressing red.
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I’d press red. I have four kids.
If your reading of the scenario is “we are offering the hypothetical only in English and to 3 day old babies who can’t even push buttons” you’re an idiot. Tye scenario necessarily implies the choosers are limited to people *who can understand the choice*.
Udi Wertheimer@udiWertheimer
almost nobody who has children would press red unless they know for an absolute fact that their kids pressed red if you think there’s even a 5% chance your kids pressed blue, you will risk your life to improve their odds even by a tiny bit to take this a step further most women are probably hard-wired to press blue as a motherly instinct anyway, even if they have no children. so at minimum you have a 25% baseline for blue right there, which completely tips the odds so i think blue actually wins by a landslide if this was the real world and not a social media app for incels in other words humanity always had the biological programming to ensure blue wins
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@lymanstoneky 'everyone on earth privately' does imply EVERYONE so yes, this does include mentally ill, baby's, small children, illiterate, colorblind. I did assume everyone reads it in their own language tho and not in English.
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@UsingLyft To add to the probability to save billions instead of them dieing. Thats why.
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Why would anyone just not press red lmao. What would make you go there and be like “yeah I’m gonna play this crazy game and risk it all by pressing blue?” Why? Why would you do that
Aella@Aella_Girl
im confused by people saying the right answer is pressing red. the good outcomes are 51% of ppl press blue OR 100% of people press red. the second is obvs way less likely
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@choffstein 'just requires everyone making the same selfish choice' brother, do you know the probability of everyone voting red? Its 0% btw. The probability of more than 50% voting blue is actually quite good and I wouldn't want to add into making that probability lower.
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Red looks selfish until you realize: if everyone presses red, everyone lives.
The "cooperative" answer requires coordination and trust.
The "selfish" answer just requires everyone making the same selfish choice.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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After the vote it is revealed that actually everyone that voted red dies to cleanse the world of the selfish people who are willing to sacrifice others to live and the world heals and becomes a better place.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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I get really annoyed by people saying that the “rational” or “game theory” answer is to vote red here. This a coordination problem: there are two optimal outcomes: everyone votes red or >50% vote blue. People dying is (I hope) not an optimal outcome even for the red voters
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@DrakeSnodgrass @iSkyzzle @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte The prompt is 'everyone on earth privately'. If you change the prompt obviously my take changes. If I'm on a ship with 200 people and everyone is engineers and hard working adults we might all push red. Then the problem becomes way harder tbh. Worldwide blue is a no brainer to me
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@Ancientswords @iSkyzzle @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte “Small chance to die” is way understating it. The chance of death in a real life scenario is HIGH. I like to think of the scenario excluding any kids, mentally Ill, or anyone else that cannot understand the prompt
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@cominginhot01 @acidiclemon2 @iSkyzzle @quantum_geoff @publicinte Yes, at the cost of killing billions. If you believe everyone will vote red you're delusional. More than 50% vote red a lot of people die. Less than 50% vote blue a lot of people die. Voting red directly adds to the probability of people dieing. Voting blue adds to survival.
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@acidiclemon2 @iSkyzzle @Ancientswords @quantum_geoff @publicinte No your framing is guilt for a false premise. You have an option for 100% survival
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@Snack_0verflow Any red button pushers at this point are heartless psychopaths tbh.
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"Those selfish red button pressers wanna murder all of us blue button pressers!!! >:c"
You're literally free to not press the "russian roulette for me pls" button; no benefit whatsoever to partaking in this pointless gamble
Red: 42.1%
Blue: 57.9%
You can't make this shit up
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@JohnBrown______ @Lloyd_Arthur_ @minordissent This is not true tho, because the only way people die is if more than 50% picks red. So red has a huge impact since the premise is 'everyone on earth privately' there is a guarantee a billions of people will pick blue. Picking blue becomes the only right answer imo.
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@Lloyd_Arthur_ @minordissent A lot of blue-pressers fail to understand that the red button is practically non-functional. Only the blue button does something.
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Just FYI blue votes think the question is “would you put your life at risk to save the lives of others?”. They genuinely lack the intellectual capacity to comprehend what it’s actually asking.
David Shor@davidshor
We asked this to a large sample of nationally representative Americans - blue wins by a 3:1 margin!
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@minordissent No, the question I see is not 'would you risk your life to save others' it is: 'would you risk killing others to save your life when there is an option where nobody dies?' and yes, it is completely different.
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@32nds You wouldn't be able to tell them what to do, thats the whole point
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This comes up every few months. It is -mind-boggling- that -anyone- would press anything but Red. This is not a morality test, it is an IQ test, and the majority is failing. Suicidally failing.
People have been brain-washed to the point where they cannot allow themselves to think through an issue, they must immediately pull the lever that they predict will make them seem more virtuous to their social group. And your hesitation will be noticed.
I think if the options were "Get a Red Ferrari" and "Get a Blue Brain Tumor" people would vote Blue before reading the second half of the option. Insane.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@CavemanCo46899 @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte No, the only way anyone dies is if more than 50% vote red. Thats it. There is no other way. So the only way people die is by voting red. The premise is 'everyone on earth privately', so its a guarantee that billions will press blue.
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@Ancientswords @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte The people that loaded the weapon are those that picked blue, though...
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@32nds Its a guarantee that people choose blue, the premise is 'everyone on earth privately' therefore voting blue becomes the only option to any rational thinking human.
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@Ancientswords The only way people die is if they personally choose blue. Liability for a bad outcome falls on the person with the most power to prevent it, which is the person voting blue and putting themselves in danger.
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@iSkyzzle @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte Its a completely different situation. This analogy doesn't work at all. Vote blue = guaranteed everyone lives, with a small chance to die yourself. Vote red = guarantee to live while adding to the chance a lot of people die.
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@Ancientswords @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte You would absolutely pick red if someone was standing in front of you with a gun and a quarter and told you red is complete safety and the other is a coin flip on whether or not he shoots you in the head
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@dadoctaevil @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte Im saying because the only way anyone dies is if more than 50% vote red that every rational person votes blue.
Favourable outcomes:
Everyone votes blue, more people vote blue than red.
Unfavorable outcomes:
People vote red (with the exception of getting 100%, which is impossible
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@Ancientswords @cominginhot01 @quantum_geoff @publicinte So you're saying people voting blue are either stupid, or they're protecting stupid people?
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@LinkofSunshine Just don't press the murder everyone who votes different button? The only way people die is if more than 50% vote red. Just don't vote red.
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“Oh I pressed the kill myself button so now you also have to press the kill yourself button to save me from my decision 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺”
Just don’t press the god damn kill yourself button???
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@soh_toa I'd rather not live in a world where everyone is a selfish asshole, so when blue loses and I die with them I still win anyway.
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We lost the vote but survived anyway. It’s the objectively smart choice lol. In case we win the vote we still survive. If you suckers lose then it’s over
JD Asanushi@AvgFalcomProtag
Red pressers are objectively the lowest IQ mfers I've seen in my life, get rekt
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@Gnedfludap @redtachyon No, voting red creates the problem. The only way people die is if more than 50% of people vote red. There is no other way. Idk how anyone can ever vote red when blue is always safe unless more than 50% of the voters is an idiot.
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@redtachyon Choosing blue is a solution that creates the exact problem that it was made to solve. The only reason to pick blue is because someone else picked blue. Don't pick blue, and nobody needs to pick blue.
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@ArtemisConsort If everyone gets a 100 dollars inflation would just happen, so in this case I'd definitely press red. Its not killing anyone and $100 is nice to get for free xD
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If you push the red button, you get $100. If you push the blue button, you get $100 if over half of people push the blue button and otherwise get nothing.
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