@evileboxyboo @glenn_tunes Elon's companies are uniquely more likely to be owned by retail investors than billionaires.
Tesla went crazy because morons bought the stock, not billionaires.
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@glenn_tunes I hate this framing. A few thousand billionaires propping up the fake ass stock market are NOT all of humanity. They are the cancer of humanity
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@lachlanp_ The Minister for highschool needs to attend more classes.
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But $1,200 simply is hundreds of dollars. Rare misstep.
Simeon Brown@SimeonBrownMP
Surprise, surprise. Labour’s new policy is barely a week old and the numbers are already shrinking. They’ve gone from claiming 1.3 million Kiwis use public transport, and that people would save $1,200 a year on average, to just “hundreds of dollars” for “regular commuters”. And the numbers still don’t add up. Labour has no credible plan to pay for its promises, and history tells us exactly how this ends. More taxes, more borrowing, higher prices, and rising interest rates for you and your family.
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Why do you constantly use Elon’s platform if you object to him funding and amplifying things/people you don’t like?
Mehdi Hasan@mehdirhasan
@piersmorgan Or inciting violence. If you call that ‘working’. Not sure how you can have so much contempt for Tommy Robinson while also praising the guy funding and amplifying him.
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@ShayWilLaSon @mehdirhasan @piersmorgan You are insulting people despite being literally illiterate.
Only on Twitter.
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@DuaneC6 @The_Davos_Man Good point, we should let children die of aids because of a politically motivated prosecution by Chavez two decades ago that never actually went to trial.
Fantastic argument.
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@The_Davos_Man Well, yes and no - USAID DID do good work. It also did some horrible shit and was poised to do worse.
Conservatives used it to influence nations and launder money.
Here's an example everybody understands:
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You defended the gutting of USAID by Elon Musk.
Nathan J Robinson@NathanJRobinson
Instead of discussing how Elon Musk is now the world's first trillionaire, we should talk about how he killed hundreds of thousands of people through his dismantling of food and medical aid to poor countries currentaffairs.org/news/how-elon-…
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@Zantameriva @TrueSlazac @SydSteyerhart Please give us the steelman argument for why letting children die of aids is morally righteous.
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@TrueSlazac @SydSteyerhart No, but only a child would call something good/bad in such a black and white way as you did right now.
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Imagine thinking that it's the duty of the American taxpayer to keep everyone in the world clothed and fed, not to mention liberally and democratically oriented in their institutions.
Thank God for Elon Musk dismantling USAID.
Nathan J Robinson@NathanJRobinson
Instead of discussing how Elon Musk is now the world's first trillionaire, we should talk about how he killed hundreds of thousands of people through his dismantling of food and medical aid to poor countries currentaffairs.org/news/how-elon-…
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@NY_LBSS @miltonfann @DerekPederson3 When will you retards understand that helping the 3rd world not being a complete shithole is the cheapest and easiest way to prevent immigration/refugee pressure to the west.
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@miltonfann @DerekPederson3 Fucking based. Libtards can waste their money in Africa.
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It’s true as much as I personally dislike Elon Musk and think some of his success is due to charlatanism, his companies have clearly resulted in innovations enormously beneficial to Americans.
I think he should sell X to a less politically partisan owner though.
Sean T at RCP@SeanTrende
Just think how many lives we could change if we took all of Elon’s wealth and gave each American …. $303 in SpaceX and Tesla stock. Which would quickly be worth $0 since the vast majority of us, myself included, know nothing about running a space company or a car company.
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@Pieter197100 @DA_Stockman Comparing SpaceX to degenerate gambling with a near mathmatical certainity of a loss is the correct view point.
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@DA_Stockman Your logic sounds ok, but you probably never buy a lottery ticket from a small portion of your income.
People buy the dream, the what if he succeeds... the utility of hope.
I hope Elon succeeds big time and if not, that he makes a lot of noise on the way down!
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Well, here's some math. Starlink is a profitable business with about $11 billion of sales and $3 billion of free cash flow. It might be worth $75 billion at a frisky multiple of 25X free cash flow.
The balance----the space launch business and the AI/data centers in space fantasy----has $7 billion of sales and NEGATIVE -$17 billion of free cash flow. So why is it worth anything, unless you are pricing a dream peddled by sell-side hucksters?!
In short, after trading up to $2 trillion based on $75 billion of tangible Starlink value, where's the remaining $1.925 trillion of it?
This isn't just the classical mania of the crowds. This is sui generis--- mass insanity in a casino that has been giving a lobotomy by three decades of money-printing madness at the Fed and its fellow-traveling central banks around the planet.
Jim Stewartson, Decelerationist 🇨🇦🇺🇦🇺🇸@jimstewartson
For $135 per share of SpaceX, you get 1/13,000,000,000th (One 13-BILLIONTH) of a company that in 2025 received $18,000,000,000 and lost $5,000,000,000 It’s allegedly worth $1,770,000,000,000 Do people not understand arithmetic anymore? Can they not count zeroes? Mass delusion.
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This makes it an anti-Ukrainian ticket btw.
Pop Crave@PopCrave
Hunter Biden reveals he would run as Vice President on a Gavin Newsom presidential ticket in 2028, TMZ reports.
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@myster_E_23 Americans can be kneedeep in shit and still criticize other countries that unironically do things better against all odds.
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@TheLastKebab @Judanik @Itagen5 Apply this argument to Hitler and you are quite literally arguing in favour of the enabling act.
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I know we shouldn't expect much from a Hoi4 modder but Pedro Castillo was literally couped after years of obstructionism by the opposition and the resulting "emergency" government killed 70 people and injured thousands creating the most hated government in the world
Matthew Murphy SDP 🇬🇧@merf_sdp
@davidrkadler how did the last "Progressive Transformation" work out?
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@barrycrocker71 For the 3 total people insane enough to commute 4 hours by train everyday.
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Most of the South Wairarapa users live there for the lifestyle in homes worth well over $1m on salaries of well over $150k, yet chippy want to give them $165 per week???
Monkey Business!@EradicationM
I'm bamboozled public transport announcement. Wairarapa train. Masterton to Wgtn is $18.50 one way so $185 per week. Line is subsidised by Greater Wgtn regional council. So are they saying the taxpayer is picking up the tab $165 per passenger or is it back on the ratepayer?
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@VeronicaLake23 @Liquid_Times Genius political ploy by Luxon to ship New Zealand from the middle east to the corner of the south Pacific.
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@Liquid_Times Calm down
You obviously haven’t being paying attention to global events
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Nonsense.
The Global Peace Index is a farce & it mostly measures war & conflicts, not law & order.
If you lock up a bike up in one of our cities for a couple of hours there's a decent chance it'll get nicked.
NZ National Party@NZNationalParty
You voted for the party of law and order. We’re delivering on our promise to reduce crime, crack down on criminals, and make our communities safer.
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@yabaizettai @JucheAffirmer Prices quadrupled (or more) during the 1970s oil crisis.
Obviously it's not the same situation, but there are good reasons to believe that a 50% increase does not represent the crisis sufficiently.
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@JucheAffirmer You do realize oil jumped nearly 100% after the start of the conflict and its still up nearly 50%. It jumped based on speculation and now its coming back to reality based on speculation. You claim manipulation one direction but not the other. engagement bait or retardation
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This is genuinely such a disaster. I just don't get how this is what we're doing: manipulating oil futures to create an illusion of calm until oil stocks literally run out and we get the global economic version of losing consciousness from blood loss.
The Kobeissi Letter@KobeissiLetter
BREAKING: US oil prices collapse below $87/barrel after President Trump cancels scheduled strikes on Iran.
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@shoe0nhead @nkulw All mature productive conversations begin with hatred for broad categories of innocent people.
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hatred of immigrants is a sign of moral weakness. one of the more obvious tells that you're just not a good person.
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@ocarolant @henrycooke You get billions of dollars worth of roads...
We can cancel all those roads and this small transport subsidy together if you like.
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@henrycooke Who benefits? Heavy commuters and regular public transport users in bigger cities. Occasional or non-users (including many in regional/rural NZ, people who drive, and regions with no public transport) get little to nothing while still contributing via taxes.
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INBOX: Labour's first policy of 2026 is a public transport fare cap:
- $20 for AKL, Wellington, Chch,
- $10 for everywhere else
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@henrycooke Unironically a good policy.
Encouraging public transport uptake broadly whilst providing targeted subsides to those who rely on PT (who are generally not wealthy at all).
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@Nyujirando @Tiare_MP I've definitely seen a fair people argue that because TOP is willing to be a kingmaker, that makes them right-wing in practice.
I.e. only a right wing party could ever form a coalition with national
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@Tiare_MP Are there really people on the left saying they're on the right? All the (fair!) critiques I've seen are about how they'll be a wasted vote and ensure another term for the coalition
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