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Arthur Shelby
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@USFBullsTboned From the beginning they told fans their opinions of the proposal without ever explaining the proposal.
E.g. Read their articles and see how many mention the future of CCGs.
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The hysteria from the media over the 24 team playoff for CFB just highlights the incestuous relationship between the media and sports. Instead of just reporting on sports they have become part of it. The same Media is who picks the AP Top 25 everywhere and then eventually the CFP rankings. They have gotten used to the kick back money for giving their "votes." They have become a major corrupt problem and now they are upset they are losing their grip. 24 team playoff with win loss record to determine who makes the playoffs would be the most fair and would eliminate the corruption.
Awful Announcing@awfulannouncing
Mike Greenberg believes a 24-team CFP would be the beginning of the end for the competitive spirit of college football. awfulannouncing.com/college-footba…
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@CoachD178 Any proposal that gets rid of conference championship games is a proposal worth consideration.
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Agree with this completely. They ruined the bowl system, created a playoff or bust mentality for too many programs that have no business having that view, devalued postseason victories outside of the playoff. It wasn't good for the sport and expanding to 24 teams isn't good either
Bud Elliott@BudElliott3
For a lot of programs, 9-3 or 8-4 is not mediocrity. It is a top-quintile outcome. It is a season fans remember. It is a season that gets a coach an extension, wakes up donors, helps recruiting, and makes people believe the program is moving. In the old bowl ecosystem, those seasons had somewhere to go. The Citrus Bowl, Gator Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Alamo Bowl, Sun Bowl, Liberty Bowl, Outback Bowl, Peach Bowl, Music City Bowl, Las Vegas Bowl, Pinstripe Bowl, and a bunch of others could mean different things to different programs. They were not all equal, and they were not all national-title-adjacent. But they gave teams a postseason reward that fit the scale of what that program had accomplished. That is what the playoff era damaged. The sport did not merely create a better championship mechanism. It centralized almost all postseason meaning into one event. ESPN, as the CFP’s exclusive rights holder, helped build and promote that hierarchy. ESPN and the CFP extended their exclusive relationship through the 2031-32 season, including rights to the playoff games, selection show, weekly rankings shows, and related programming. That is not just broadcasting the sport. That is defining the sport’s value system. So when people say, “Why is Team 19 making the playoff better than Team 19 going to the Citrus Bowl?” the answer is: because there was a time when the Citrus Bowl carried real status. So did a lot of other bowls, depending on the program. But the sport spent a decade telling everyone that anything outside the CFP is meaningless. The meaning moved. And once the meaning moves, the access point has to move with it.
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@CFBAlerts_ @NextRoundLive Any proposal that gets rid of a wasted week of meaningless conference championship games is a proposal worth consideration.
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Rece Davis is among the many College Football fans and media members against a 24-team playoff.
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@dannykanell 4. Fans that don’t realize that it gets rid of conference championship games.
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The loudest voices against expanding the playoffs seem to fit some of the following categories
1. Grew up in the 90’s
2. SEC fans.
3. Employed by ESPN
Here’s why 👇👇👇
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some people say Reggie is still running on Notre Dame 👀✌🏻
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@georgewrighster Any proposal that gets rid of meaningless conference championship games is a proposal worth consideration.
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Here are 4 reasons 24 team CFP is an awful idea from somebody who was all for expansion to 8 or 16:
1. Coaches will rest players in rivalry games if they are already guaranteed a playoff spot.
2. You ONLY want teams in CFP that can win
3. Foolishly believe ACC/Big 12 will get more of additional 12 than SEC/Big Ten. They will lobby until they get 16 of 24 slots.
4. Fans are frustrated w/12 team rankings and sure how can ADs etc have time to watch all these teams. Image them having to rank 40-50?
Danny Kanell@dannykanell
The loudest voices against expanding the playoffs seem to fit some of the following categories 1. Grew up in the 90’s 2. SEC fans. 3. Employed by ESPN Here’s why 👇👇👇
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@PGuy77 @Espngreeny If the 24-team proposal devalues the regular season, please explain how the conference championship games haven’t done the same thing.
If you can’t, you probably work for ESPN.
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What a mic drop by @Espngreeny.
If you think college football is special, keep what makes it special.
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@TimBrando If someone isn’t mentioning the pros & cons of getting rid of conference championship games in their argument, they are being disingenuous.
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Thank you Pete. These guys (many we both respect I’m sure)always react this way. Resistance to change has always been the Achilles heel of CFB, and not just for coaches, but for fantasy a very high level. 👇
Pete Fiutak@PeteFiutak
I can not BELIEVE I'm arguing against the ceaseless 24-team CFP whining (I'm on the TOO MANY TEAMS side) Amazing how many who do what I do have zero real-world clue that a vast majority of fans are casuals who just want to have fun on a Saturday The regular season will be fine
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@flugempire I would love to see the #MountainWest champ play the #Pac12 champ for an AQ CFP slot. Those conferences _hate_ each other.
#TheBadBloodBowl
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I find it difficult to believe G6 only playoffs would garner enough revenue to disperse 1.8 million on average to each G6 school. It’s obvious G6 schools will not self sabotage themselves out of their current CFP access.
Not sure additional 4 team G6 playoffs is beneficial.
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@ByuSome @PenguinOfTroy Nevermind that conference championship games started devaluing the regular season a decade ago & this proposal gets rid of them.
Weird ESPN never talks about that.
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"If you expand to 24 teams, then you're lowering standards and ruining CFB!"
Nevermind the fact we just expanded from 4 to 12, and Miami, who wouldn't have made the CFP in a 4 team CFP, was the national runner-up.
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@slmandel Now tell us why conference championship games don’t dilute the regular season.
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You can go 9-8 in the NFL and play for the Super Bowl.
You can go 83-79 in MLB and make the World Series.
The beauty of college football is your regular season matters.
It might not much longer.
nytimes.com/athletic/72777…
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@JHopkinsSD @On3 Gets rid of meaningless conference championship games & ends 2 weeks earlier? Sign me up!
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@overrated_sec Tell me how many teams are in the current postseason format if you include the CCGs.
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Would like the record to show that I’m firmly #TeamSEC in this case.
Stewart Mandel@slmandel
Tne ACC, Big 12 and ND now support the B1G’s 24-team Playoff. The SEC is the last holdout. If they cave, say goodbye to the greatest regular season in sports. If you love college football, it’s time to stand up and make your voices heard. nytimes.com/athletic/72777…
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@geoffschwartz For a guy who is railing against unserious arguments, you sure make a lot of them.
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I’d argue USC football has undermined themselves by not making a playoff ever. Or winning a conference once since 2008.
Good news tho. The playoff window is open now.
C-Niel@CNielocxc
@geoffschwartz Yes. You are a great example of the media actively attempting to undermine and degrade USC.
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@ArthurShelbee @FightOnRusty Says fans of a team that is always in contention to make the playoffs.
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@DouglasTS Another reason:
Because it gets rid of conference championship games.
Much cheaper to broadcast games you know are always going to be in Indianapolis & Atlanta than scramble to some random campus sites in winter on 5 days notice.
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One reason ESPN is against expansion is that they own nearly all of the non-playoff bowl games and expansion to 24 would significantly reduce the value of those games, and make some of them disappear completely. This is valuable inexpensive content for them
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@geoffschwartz Notre Dame fans love telling people how conferences work & then call other fans unserious.
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USC fans are just unserious bunch. Lmao. Yes the Pac12 actively undermined a program that’s played in a single meaningful bowl game since Pete Carroll left.
Alicia de Artola Castillo@PenguinOfTroy
Not really... The Pac-12 killed itself. They took their power program for granted (many argue they actively undermined it) and when it left, the rest collapsed. Make no mistake, if Oregon and Washington hadn't scrambled to follow USC out the door, the Pac-12 would still exist.
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