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Bill_Murray

@BCrytpM

Bill Murray doppelgänger, crypto OG since ’17. I’ve seen more market cycles than Groundhog Days. Opinions: spicy. Typos: authentic.

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Mark Hogan
Mark Hogan@MB_Hogan·
Contrarian take: I’m NOT tired of the $NBIS vs $IREN debates
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Steve Sweeney
Steve Sweeney@SweeneySteve·
Today I$rael tried to kill me in a targeted airstrike in southern Lebanon as I was reporting on was the targeting of bridges and the forced displacement of 1 million people, an ethnic cleansing operation on a larger scale than the Nakba I have absolutely no doubt that this was deliberate. Despite claims there were no warnings ahead of the strike and no notifications sent to the Lebanese Army who allowed us to film As we have seen in Gaza they want to silence journalists who document and report their war crimes It is the western powers who provide political and military support for I$rael, arming it to the teeth to carry out genocide in Gaza and ethnic cleansing here in Lebanon. They are not simply complicit, but active participants and should be held accountable for their actions. But if I$rael thinks today’s strike will silence us and keep us out of the field they are very, very mistaken
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The Great Mattsby
The Great Mattsby@matthughes13·
$BITF is preparing for a big move Get ready as the consolidation period looks almost finished
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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
@stckpkr7000 @midlevelcruiser That's what I was alluding to. They typical play chase one another. I think their both winners long term, but I'd rather hold $IREN from here to eoy then $NBIS. Iren is overdue for an announcement and corresponding re-rate. Maybe we just pick a point in time?
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Nebius To 500
Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000·
@BCrytpM @midlevelcruiser Hmmm, charity can be winners choice. It's tricky at this moment as $NBIS has already been running while $IREN is due imo. Maybe start the comp after $IREN's next deal is announced?
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Mid-Level Cruiser
Mid-Level Cruiser@midlevelcruiser·
the easiest way to settle the $NBIS vs $IREN debate is to shut up and buy both
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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
@stckpkr7000 @midlevelcruiser Sure, what do you have in mind? I am sure we could get a few others involved. This might be a good way to get our communities to quit bickering so much.
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Nebius To 500
Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000·
Endless partnerships, innovation, offerings, and new talent getting hired from top companies. It's hard to keep up! $NBIS $IREN
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.@nebiusai is bringing continuous inference optimizations and faster time to deployment for its customers, powered by NVIDIA Dynamo and TensorRT-LLM.

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Please elaborate & spell out each of my fallacies. I’m VERY well aware of hyper-growth stocks & early growth investments, that often suppress the bottom line. But those costs are embedded in R&D & SG&A, i.e. product developments + sales / marketing. These are exactly the costs that I EXCLUDED from my criticism of lacking pricing power. I merely highlight elevated depreciation & cost of revenues relative to the underlying revenues. Go ahead, point out what was false.
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Framework A³C³E@FrameworkWisely·
Fair points! @Agrippa_Inv 💯 I have more money invested in $NBIS than in $IREN, but that doesn't change the fact that the points raised here are thoughtful.
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Why I’m Not Invested in $NBIS First of all, let me make one thing clear: contrary to what you might think, I’m not an $NBIS bear. But then again, I’m not invested either… and for good reason. Nebius positions itself as a holistic cloud platform with superior software technology that caters to AI-native start-ups and enterprise clients. That in and of itself isn’t a problem, but it means they're directly competing against the largest hyperscalers in the world, who are also targeting that exact cohort with their own set of software solutions (Google Cloud, Microsoft, etc.). Nonetheless, if $NBIS can successfully differentiate itself with its core offerings, it could gain some pricing power, which is the company’s best shot at one day becoming profitable. The problem is, $NBIS is VERY far away from that… Looking at the last quarterly filing, the company’s gross expenses + depreciation equaled ~110% of its revenues. In other words, these two cost categories exceeded the value of the underlying revenues ($249.2m vs. revenue of $227.7m). To be fair, last quarter Nebius still used a 4 year depreciation schedule on GPUs, which is rather short and overstates depreciation. Adjusting for a 5 year depreciation schedule (industry standard) leads us to $144.6m of depreciation. Then, adding gross expenses of $68.5m on top gets you to $213.1m, which equals 93.5% of revenues. And keep in mind, this figure does NOT include the hundreds of millions in costs spent on SG&A, R&D, and financing (interest). So what’s my point with this? The problem is, these are STRUCTURAL costs, the kind that scale with revenue, meaning you can’t easily grow out of them through sheer scale. My point is that $NBIS' pricing power is nowhere to be seen, at least not relative to its costs. Now, most $NBIS investors would probably argue that we are still "early" and that pricing power will show up eventually. My problem with that argument is that the company seems to be allocating a very large chunk of its pipeline towards servicing hyperscalers through bare metal offerings, the kind of “bulk” service that does NOT command significant pricing power. That means, fundamentally speaking, $NBIS is likely very far away from actually becoming profitable. And while right now everyone is focused on headline figures like ARR, the market’s patience will run out eventually... it ALWAYS does for every company. One day, the market will demand to see real profits flow down to the bottom line, and I’m not sure if $NBIS is structurally positioned to deliver on that any time soon. To make matters worse, investors can’t even model out the economics of these large hyperscaler deals, because management provides absolutely 0 information on anything except headline figures. We don’t even know the CapEx associated with these deals, or at the very least, the number of GPUs they have to purchase to fulfill their end of the bargain. Contrast that with a company like $IREN, which gives you all the necessary information to build an entire P&L and cash flow model over the full course of the contract length, which is exactly what I’ve done extensively for our subscribers on Substack. I have a VERY good idea of how much actual post-tax net income $IREN is making in every year of their hyperscaler contract. There are other reasons that further point in the same direction, but I won’t get into them right now. If they fix their cost structure one day, I’m happy to reconsider my stance. But as of today, their “black box” approach to publishing details on their largest deals makes them uninvestable for me.

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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
@stckpkr7000 @Agrippa_Inv Retail investors alone will not move these Market Caps where we would all want them. The entire sector needs to flourish to gain the orders of magnitude we all want on both sides.
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Nebius To 500
Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000·
Wise words. Please understand the Nebius hate from Iren holders is almost a year in the making. Yes, Nebius folks have resorted to similar behavior since, but the first stone came from camp Iren. The entire battle is a waste and an embarrassment. Most of it is jealousy and a strange belief that a few retail investors switching sides might move the needle.
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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
I'm not sure how you can make the claim they don't belong in the space. They had the foresight to secure power, AI and Data Center expansion was in the original pitch deck. You can at least admit owning the power is a competitive advantage, correct? As an intelligent objective investor.
Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000

@BCrytpM @Agrippa_Inv No, he's taking time out of his life to spread FUD (so wierd). I will laugh over the coming months as $IREN flounders in a space they don't belong in. I'm done playing nice.

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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
Respectfully, as an observer of this ridiculous competition of egos, both sides would be wise to do better. That being said nothing @Agrippa_Inv wrote was an attack on $NBIS to the benefit of $IREN he's simply stating his thesis. $NBIS investors have been oozing arrogance the last couple week and rightfully so. I'll be happy too when $IREN trades above a hundred! Im old enough to know it's always best to remain humble.
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Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000·
@BCrytpM I've always had that mindset, but there are some classless fools on the $IREN side. For your case (and a few others) I hope $IREN does well. The crazies don't deserve it, but most do.
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BeSane
BeSane@Digital_InSaner·
@Agrippa_Inv Iren investors in sheer panic mode literally manually breathing watching NBIS slowly become a global AI superpower
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Why I’m Not Invested in $NBIS First of all, let me make one thing clear: contrary to what you might think, I’m not an $NBIS bear. But then again, I’m not invested either… and for good reason. Nebius positions itself as a holistic cloud platform with superior software technology that caters to AI-native start-ups and enterprise clients. That in and of itself isn’t a problem, but it means they're directly competing against the largest hyperscalers in the world, who are also targeting that exact cohort with their own set of software solutions (Google Cloud, Microsoft, etc.). Nonetheless, if $NBIS can successfully differentiate itself with its core offerings, it could gain some pricing power, which is the company’s best shot at one day becoming profitable. The problem is, $NBIS is VERY far away from that… Looking at the last quarterly filing, the company’s gross expenses + depreciation equaled ~110% of its revenues. In other words, these two cost categories exceeded the value of the underlying revenues ($249.2m vs. revenue of $227.7m). To be fair, last quarter Nebius still used a 4 year depreciation schedule on GPUs, which is rather short and overstates depreciation. Adjusting for a 5 year depreciation schedule (industry standard) leads us to $144.6m of depreciation. Then, adding gross expenses of $68.5m on top gets you to $213.1m, which equals 93.5% of revenues. And keep in mind, this figure does NOT include the hundreds of millions in costs spent on SG&A, R&D, and financing (interest). So what’s my point with this? The problem is, these are STRUCTURAL costs, the kind that scale with revenue, meaning you can’t easily grow out of them through sheer scale. My point is that $NBIS' pricing power is nowhere to be seen, at least not relative to its costs. Now, most $NBIS investors would probably argue that we are still "early" and that pricing power will show up eventually. My problem with that argument is that the company seems to be allocating a very large chunk of its pipeline towards servicing hyperscalers through bare metal offerings, the kind of “bulk” service that does NOT command significant pricing power. That means, fundamentally speaking, $NBIS is likely very far away from actually becoming profitable. And while right now everyone is focused on headline figures like ARR, the market’s patience will run out eventually... it ALWAYS does for every company. One day, the market will demand to see real profits flow down to the bottom line, and I’m not sure if $NBIS is structurally positioned to deliver on that any time soon. To make matters worse, investors can’t even model out the economics of these large hyperscaler deals, because management provides absolutely 0 information on anything except headline figures. We don’t even know the CapEx associated with these deals, or at the very least, the number of GPUs they have to purchase to fulfill their end of the bargain. Contrast that with a company like $IREN, which gives you all the necessary information to build an entire P&L and cash flow model over the full course of the contract length, which is exactly what I’ve done extensively for our subscribers on Substack. I have a VERY good idea of how much actual post-tax net income $IREN is making in every year of their hyperscaler contract. There are other reasons that further point in the same direction, but I won’t get into them right now. If they fix their cost structure one day, I’m happy to reconsider my stance. But as of today, their “black box” approach to publishing details on their largest deals makes them uninvestable for me.
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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
We can both agree $NBIS is ahead of $IREN at present in terms of contract value. $IREN has some catching up to do, which for me is the opportunity. The more success $NBIS has tye greater the opportunity for IREN and vice versa. I wish both companies tremendous success. Respect.
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Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000·
@BCrytpM Absolutely. It is the only thing I like about $IREN. You're grasping at straws to find any other positives. Wait, they do mine Bitcoin VERY efficiently, and that speaks volumes, but........
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Bill_Murray@BCrytpM·
Respectfully. You are making my point @Agrippa_Inv isn't wishing ill on $NBIS he's simply pointing out some pretty obvious weaknesses. I wish both companies wild success. I choose to invest in $IREN since they own the power. I enjoy the debate, always good to check my thesis.
Nebius To 500@stckpkr7000

He's muted, and he'll never change his view. His ego wouldn't allow. Personally, I would switch in heartbeat if things changed. A stock is only a vessel. I'm close to wishing $IREN some pain as some of their cultists are insufferable. Their word salad "deep dives" are contrary to anyone with an ounce of common sense.

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Congressman Shri Thanedar
Congressman Shri Thanedar@RepShriThanedar·
Join me this Saturday for a conversation about Iran, ICE, and any questions you have.
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New $IREN Deep Dive: Childress Unlocked I’ve spent the last couple of weeks writing the most important $IREN deep dive I’ve published to date. Air-cooling at Childress is a MUCH bigger deal than the vast majority of investors and analysts realize. Honestly, $IREN price targets across the board should be well above $100 at this point. But Wall Street missing the forest for the trees is nothing new. I’ve extensively modelled out the company’s near-term pipeline using conservative assumptions (below management’s guidance), and it’s clear as day that the market isn’t properly pricing in $IREN's industry-leading earnings power. $IREN is going to make BILLIONS of actual net income over the coming years… not just meaningless EBITDA or top-line figures, but real profits flowing to the bottom line. If anyone is the next hyperscaler, it’s $IREN. Remember, real hyperscalers are actually profitable… At the same time, every investor should be aware of looming industry risks that affect all neo-clouds in the sector and evaluate how they could impact the investment thesis. That’s exactly what I’ve done for all our readers. These are the topics this new report covers: ➞ Breaking down the new GPU orders + new guidance ➞ Implications of air-cooling ➞ Extensive pipeline modelling ➞ Comprehensive analysis of the new $6b ATM ➞ Risks to the investment thesis ➞ + Plenty of bonus topics This 40+ page mega deep dive covers everything $IREN investors should be aware of today. It’s written in a very reader-friendly way, with many graphics & embedded video clips throughout. I chuckle when I read so-called “analysts” on X give their takes on $IREN after doing nothing more than surface-level analysis (at best). Most investors have no idea where this is heading… If you’ve read the new deep dive, I’d love to hear your feedback in the comments. Appreciate all of you, cheers! ✌️ agrippa.investments/p/iren-childre…
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