Bethany Freitag

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Bethany Freitag

Bethany Freitag

@BethanyF42

Katılım Ekim 2022
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@maternalgroyp @GreatLakesWife_ We don't, although we both have full access to each other's phones, computers, etc. The few times I do use his phone I am horrified by all the apps he leaves open. :-) But I've never just looked around.
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the spice of life ❄️
the spice of life ❄️@maternalgroyp·
@GreatLakesWife_ I go through husbands phone sometimes and vice Versa. Do you guys not ? That’s a pretty standard Christian married couple thing to do
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Great Lakes Wife
Great Lakes Wife@GreatLakesWife_·
The urge to go through my husband’s phone, not because I think he has anything to hide, I just want to know what he talks about with his friends (it’s definitely sports)
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bird 🐇@oliveegger·
Ok back to rabbit poasting, I made them a waterer like the chickens have
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bird 🐇@oliveegger·
@BethanyF42 Just hardware cloth around perimeter. They did find a weak spot tho and got out but we filled it in 😂
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bird 🐇
bird 🐇@oliveegger·
Husbands passion project + mine lol
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@emilykmay I'm convinced the Odyssey is peak car. Plenty of room for kids at any age, comfortable even for adults in the back, and even with 8 people in the car there is still room for a stroller or wheelchair or whatever in the back. And seats down there is room for a fridge, couch, etc.
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emily may
emily may@emilykmay·
my minivan AC died last summer and it was going to be more than the van was worth to fix, so I switched to an SUV, and after a year I must say.....minivans reign supreme. I need a minivan back.
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Rachel Luttrell
Rachel Luttrell@rachel_luttrell·
More Stargate Atlantis bts with Caden ❤️It really is about family…. #SaveStargate
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ArchEnema @RealDianeYap Neither romance nor sex should be neglected. The reality is that sex is inherently different for men and women. Sex is inherently more dangerous for women. The thing that makes sex safe, is the character of the man. If he proves untrustworthy in other areas, sex is harder.
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Alex S.
Alex S.@ArchEnema·
@BethanyF42 @RealDianeYap That’s probably correct, if simplified. For women, relationship is the precondition for sex. Unfortunately it’s just the other way around for men. While a leap of faith may be realistic in early courtship, LTRs tend to degrade if EITHER sex OR relationship care is neglected.
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Diane Yap
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap·
There are just two cases in the marital sex debate: 1. Sex is about emotion and connection. In this case, if the other person isn’t 100% willing, there’s no point. What kind of connection is that? It breeds resentment. 2. It isn’t. Fine, then use your hand. No one cares if that’s not as fun for you: you don’t get to use someone else’s body to masturbate just because it feels better. You just admitted it’s not about emotion or connection.
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ArchEnema @RealDianeYap A) Hopefully couples can do better than 30 minutes a week. :-) B) Marriage is relational, not transactional. Don't keep score! That will only lead to failure. C) Of course 30 minutes of emotional and physical connection isn't sufficient, it isn't for men either.
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Alex S.
Alex S.@ArchEnema·
@BethanyF42 @RealDianeYap And we all know how simple it is to sexually please a man. 30 minutes a week and he won’t complain. But what a woman will see 30 minutes of weekly attention as sufficient? 🤷‍♂️
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ArchEnema @RealDianeYap No, because those two things aren't equal. Men also do need more than sex, they also need emotional and other physical connection. And men know how to give and recieve other forms of affection, they usually demonstrate that pretty well in the early phases.
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Alex S.@ArchEnema·
@BethanyF42 @RealDianeYap In those discussions, neglect of care is always, NATURALLY mentioned as the primary cause for relationship issues and hence absence of sex. But the other way round is NEVER allowed as a valid argument. But isn’t it just as obvious??
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ArchEnema @RealDianeYap From a woman's perspective, I think that's backwards. Sex is the outpouring of a romantic relationship, the result of connection, not the primary cause. Joyfully pursue romance, adjusting as necessary for the season of life, and enthusiastic sex is likely to follow.
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Alex S.@ArchEnema·
@RealDianeYap Let’s assume it’s 1). Then men’s complaints about too little sex (let alone enthusiasm from her side) are just a proxy: The actual complaint is about the missing connection. She opted out of sex, so she opted out of romantic relationship. What is his next logical move?
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@TCAZ1776 @RealDianeYap It is totally possible! Certainly there are seasons, but it is absolutely possible for women to be spontaneous and initiate sex frequently, decades into marriage. Also, a woman with a responsive sex drive can have enthusiastic and frequent sex. It just takes some warming up. :-)
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Tom@TCAZ1776·
@RealDianeYap Women are incapable of experiencing a high level of spontaneous desire deep into monogamy, especially after kids. Men, on the other hand, will generally stay horny for their mate forever. Some compromise here seems necessary.
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@basinmusic @st_louis_stan @emilykmay Maybe, I'm sure that can happen. What I'm seeing expressed though in this conversation, over and over again, is that some women feel that their husband is ONLY offering physical affection in pursuit of sex. That the touch offered is really a need, a demand of them.
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Basin
Basin@basinmusic·
@BethanyF42 @st_louis_stan @emilykmay I think they often are in relationships where a sex therapist is being brought in to give ideas. For a substantial minority, at minimum, non bedroom affection offered by the man was met with rejection for some reason or another until he stopped offering. ”i just put on lip gloss"
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emily may
emily may@emilykmay·
there's a sex therapist who has a ritual of making out with her husband every night before bed, and so many of the comments on her posts are some version of "but what if he gets turned on and I don't want to have sex" and i need men to understand and prioritize non sexual touch.
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@basinmusic @st_louis_stan @emilykmay I don't understand that last sentence, are you suggesting that women are rejecting all those forms of physical affection? To your first point, starting with daytime physical affection is a great idea. Especially in a situation where physical affection is rare or limited to sex.
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Basin
Basin@basinmusic·
@BethanyF42 @st_louis_stan @emilykmay If that was the goal daytime affection would be the starting point. Not a situation setting the man up for eventual rejection. There's no data to definitively support who is responsible for the end of offered physical affection, but my money is on the one saying "touched out"
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James 𝕏ond
James 𝕏ond@james_xond·
Trying to prove a point: How old were you when you had your FIRST job?
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ConvosInACafe @emilykmay An example: Lots of physical affection and flirting early in the relationship Lots of sex follows Flirting/affection slows and then stops Guy doesn't care, he just wants the sex But flirting is what gets her motor going, she stops wanting it as much Guy gets mad, pressures her
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unseriously so forreal
unseriously so forreal@ConvosInACafe·
@emilykmay I’ve never been married so I am asking this out of pure ignorance on the matter but why are u married to someone who u don’t wanna have secks with ??? Or does your desire just gradually fade over time ?
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emily may
emily may@emilykmay·
married women, have you ever said yes to sex because you didn't want to deal with his moodiness if you said no?
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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@ConvosInACafe @emilykmay 1) you do marry someone you want to have sex with. 2)you might not want to have sex every time 3)desire and drive can change over time (higher and lower) 4)sometimes, over time, fun physical flirting stops and it is only ever sex. But that flirting is what helps women want sex.
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memetic_sisyphus
memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
Sex is the only case where this could be mistaken for a sound argument. That’s due to the weird sexual ethics of our time designed to legitimize behavior that used to be condemned and condemning perfectly fine behavior. But let’s make it a little more obvious and replace sex with another act of physical intimacy, say a back rub (one could call this non-sexual touching). I’ve never wanted to give my wife a back rub. I don’t particularly enjoy doing it. But she’s my wife, I know it makes her happy and that matters quite a lot to me her husband, so I’ve given her hundreds? Thousands? There are dozens of such acts both she and I do for one another in the name of our marriage. Acts where we are neutral or would simply rather not but because of love and our holy vow to one another means we perform them without complaint nor resentment. Acts of love that transcend other emotions. If one were to take her advice literally, that a wife or husband should never do something they don’t feel like for their spouse, they would find a quick end to their marriage. Again you probably shouldn’t take marriage advice from a divorcee.
emily may@emilykmay

your husband fucking you when they don't care whether or not you're in the mood for it IS NOT A NEUTRAL EXPERIENCE.

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Bethany Freitag
Bethany Freitag@BethanyF42·
@Blazmatic @memeticsisyphus No. It started with a discussion of making out without the "expectation", the pressure for sex. Women have been fairly united in saying that this would lead to more sex. It was about increasing physical affection without obligation, not about prohibiting sex.
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Blažmatić
Blažmatić@Blazmatic·
@BethanyF42 @memeticsisyphus it started with women creaming themselves at the thought of an intense makeout session with no sex afterwards, which many men commented on how physically painful that is
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