Civil Engineer Ben

@peter69hc @PLtheLegend No "unfair advantage" other than wiping off 94% of the debt, meaning far more headroom for spending under SCMP because those debts aren't being serviced you mean? The -15 wasn't a punishment. It was to redress that imbalance against the other L1 clubs that pay their bills.

@PLtheLegend What unfair advantage do Wednesday gain? The only reason we would have been punished is because we hadn’t paid the former owner who put us into administration. Not gained any unfair advantage at all… #swfc

Wednesday and their fans have certainly gone through it over the last 18 months no question. But regardless of getting no points deduction next season is it not unfair on the other 23 League 1 teams that Wednesday get to carry their 2025/2026 points through to next season too?

@Turk_S8 @DaleJohnsonBBC Bored now. If you can't even come back with any information yourself and have to resort to ad hominim name-calling tells me everything I need to know.

@CivilEng_Ben @DaleJohnsonBBC Oh Benjaminge! Go look at the figures, actual accounts and when you do, please come back with an explanation.

The EFL board waived the -15 against Sheffield Wednesday due to Dejphon Chansiri's refusal to engage with offers on his debt as the only major creditor. Offers were either outright refused or ignored, and on this basis the EFL ruled the -15 was not to be applied. #swfc

@Turk_S8 @DaleJohnsonBBC If you want to explain where the £80m to Chansiri in the Begbies numbers came from, and then where the £60m for the ground went, then I'm all ears. My cards are on the table. Where are yours?

@CivilEng_Ben @DaleJohnsonBBC I think you should look at the books mate, when you do come back and have a proper conversation.

@Turk_S8 @DaleJohnsonBBC Look at your own books mate. He was owed £80m anyway. And then there was the dodgy £60m from the ground sale to himself. I know maths is difficult but come on...

@CivilEng_Ben @DaleJohnsonBBC £150m 😂😂

@scottch24 @gcxb After everything, a Wednesday fan talking about how another club has to "live within it's means" is PEAK IRONY.

@gcxb Just worry about yourself you have a big wage bill to kill and no more parachute payments time to work within the means of the championship

So do they have a transfer ban still or what? Im trying to get my head round how all this shit works as it seems to be different for every club

@Lukescalesmtwm Exactly. The -15 is a redress for otherwise having a significant financial advantage NEXT season by being able to wipe out 75%+ of their debt, leaving them headroom under SCMP. The EFL have basically ruled that Owners should accept even less than 25%. Because.

Everything wrong with modern football spend money you don’t have fail to pay your employees break sponsorship rules= no punishment guarantee if Barnsley did it we’d be sent to non league

@garbutt_da81105 @DaleJohnsonBBC Pumped near on £150m into the club over a decade. Nearly got them promoted twice. And actually promoted twice. Dodgy deal to sell the ground to himself for over inflated value to avoid FFP. No complaining about him then, but deserves nothing yeah?

@CivilEng_Ben @DaleJohnsonBBC He deserves nothing, good riddance!

@SheffieldStar - as your editor is often quiet on Twitter, how about a response from the newspaper account instead?

@StarClaire01 in relation to the recent "article" on your website here: thestar.co.uk/sport/sport-op… I've got a few factual corrections for you, ones that i hoped would have been obvious to someone titled "Head of Football Governance" when invited by you to provide comments:

@davidstache @robstaton Might it, perhaps, be that with the worst-performing football team in League history, there is justification for questioning the performance of the manager? Luton did better with a 30 point deduction. As did Reading. And Derby.

@robstaton It would be nice for you to scrutinise Wilder's performance at the Lane as much as you do Pedersen.

Sheffield Wednesday have won only one league game in 45 attempts. Even with everything that has happened, is that good enough? #SWFC Latest piece for the BBC Sport website… bbc.co.uk/sport/football…

@StarClaire01 The Star should be EMBARRASSED that they've allowed something so palpably, factually and provably nonsensical to be committed to print under their banner. Laughable journalistic standards I'm afraid.

@StarClaire01 3) It isn't "double jeopardy". They aren't being punished TWICE for the same failings. In fact this is THREE SEPARATE things: A) mandatory deduction for admin​ B) deduction for non-payment of salaries​ C) deduction for exiting admin without meeting the payment threshold

@StarClaire01 2) 2) It isn't "emergence" of another points deduction. That's been a known and DOCUMENTED sanction for failure to meet a payment threshold - in this case not paying back even 25% of the vast owings to other people and businesses.

@StarClaire01 1) It isn't a "points ban". It's a points deduction.

@AlanBiggs1 Call me mad - but I'd far rather "not be fair" on the fans that were supporting the club that was rule breaking, and a promotion that was achieved with players fans cheered on, despite the club not being able to afford them.

@AlanBiggs1 Or, alternatively, the bidders (and by extension the club) could pay a reasonable proportion of what they owe to the people they owe it to.

EFL, you can’t kill a dead body! My #SWFC column thestar.co.uk/sport/football…

@AlanBiggs1 And it will CERTAINLY not BE fair on the fans of every other League 1 club next season to have a club be able to wipe its debts clear when that option is not afforded to them.

@AlanBiggs1 BUT it is CERTAINLY not fair on the fans of Peterborough and Barnsley that they were knocked out of the playoffs by a team that was unaffordable and paid for on the hock.

@AlanBiggs1 Your continuing, "woe-is-us, it's not fair on the fans" narrative works both ways, in addition now now being well-worn and incredibly tiresome. It may not be fair (arguably; debatably) on the fans of SWFC to punish them further.

@AlanBiggs1 this only serves to show that you and the club and the prospective new owners have little regard for the net effect this could have on other businesses.