@JeromeChukwuwem Since the Orthodox Church doesn’t have a set canon there could be many differences.
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Christian Royale
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What is the difference between the “orthodox Bible” and the “Greek orthodox Bible”?
Fawzy Dawah@fawzydawah
Christians have more than one Bible.
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@ThoughtfulSaint @djlemmon_ So Mormons are Aristotelians now 😂
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A person is a particular instantiation of a nature.
You are a particular human being—this specific person, here and now. But you share a common human nature with every other human: you’re rational, embodied, and capable of thought and choice. Think of “human nature” as the kind of thing you are, and “you” as one particular instance of that kind. Humanity doesn’t exist as some separate thing floating out there—it exists in actual people like you and me.
So a person cannot have mutually exclusive natures.
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Boom.
Just a reminder that in Catholic thought Mary is not the mother of God… just the mother of the human nature of a human named Jesus.
All Those In Favor@ATIF_Podcast
Sorry, I didn't know how else to share this clip. Yea ive obviously heard of the hypostatic union. But I really just don't think that saves you here in the slightest. I have a hard time seeing how this doesn't lead you to embrace nestorianism. You are essentially saying that the human nature is physical, and the divine nature is not. This would violate good Chalcedonian Christology IMO. You would have to assert it seems that Mary was only the mother of Christ in the flesh. Only the mother of the human nature... since the divine nature is of course not physical. The Chalcedonian documents state "We altogether reject those who divide or confuse or introduce a phantom, since this is true incarnation which was without sin of the Theotokos did not bring about the existence of a Son" It absolutely seems like you are both dividing the natures and introducing a phantom in your assertion here. Appealing to the hypostatic union does not help at all.
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@BayouHuguenot Tbf at the beginning of the Institutes, Calvin’s primary argument for the existence of God is we all are born knowing God exists.
So he starts with an a priori argument.
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@Canonandcreed @Exposit_TheWord Can someone be justified and not be saved?
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Thanks for the response, pastor. But yes, I think it’s major cope to say people are converting, even in part, because they want credit for their salvation or something.
I know lots of people who converted. Not a single one converted for this reason, Sam. It actually had nothing to do with anything pertaining to soteriology at all. It had to do with them encountering the historical reality of the faith and wanting something deeper and more rooted/serious—not finding such in their evangelical experience.
And I standby what I said about merit. Ex pacto merit is Reformed and can be bottled under the label “salvation” because all of salvation isn’t only justification.
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This is not Reformed doctrine.
The Reformed do not reject merit outright because the Bible doesn’t and rhetoric like this only blurs the actual debate on merit:
“We know that in the keeping of God's commandments there is great reward; Psalm 19:11. and that unto him who soweth righteousness there shall be a sure reward; Prov. 11:18. But the question is, whence he that soweth in this manner must expect to reap so great and so sure a harvest? Whether from God's justice; which he must do if he stands as the Jesuits would have him do upon merit, or from his mercy, as a recompense freely bestowed out of God's gracious bounty, and not in justice due for the worth of the work performed… Originally therefore, and in itself, we hold that this reward proceeds merely from God's free bounty and mercy: but accidentally, in regard that God has tied himself by his word and promise to confer such a reward, we grant that it now proves in a sort to be an act of justice… For a promise, we see, amongst honest men is counted a due debt. But the thing promised being free… if the promiser did not perform… he could not properly be said to do me wrong, but rather to wrong himself…”—James Ussher; Answer to a Jesuit, Ch. 12. Of Merits
We also need to be honest about why conversions are happening. It’s cope to say it’s because people want to “earn” their salvation.
Pastor Samuel Farag@Exposit_TheWord
Part of the surge of converts into the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Oreiental Orthodox Churches has to do with depraved man's intoxicating desire to earn at least part of their salvation. However, if even one atom of our salvation was based on our efforts, then we would have every right to boast. Beloved, our mighty and sovereign God does not allow a merit-based system of salvation for that very reason. We are to boast in Christ and Christ crucified alone!
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Now this is a new approach! 😂
Wow, they will stop at nothing short of making sound biblical arguments addressing the issue at hand. #boogieman #lazy
Christian Royale@ClashChristianR
@Soteriology101 You aren’t a Pelagian Leighton. You go way further than Pelagius ever did. Pelagius would become an Augustinian if he saw your videos.
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@MtZionAD33 @chris_calvi I don’t know much about Paul but I can say Mark is one of the most doctrinally solid guys I’ve ever met.
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@ClashChristianR @chris_calvi I have. Mark Z's dissertation and Paul Twiss' says it all....
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You went from having Dr. Robert Thomas and Dr. Farnell teaching the original languages and New Testament studies to hiring a Ph.D. student from a Catholic university to teach future pastors those same subjects. What happened to TMS? It will go down in the history books.
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@DPGBehler Also I never said I hate Leighton so idk why you put that.
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And this is what the internet does to the immature. The more they get riled up about a topic, the more polarizing they are about the people with whom they disagree on it.
I’ve seen it go from “Leighton is semi-Pelagian,” to “I think you’re a full-blown Pelagian.”
Now we’ve reached the level of stupidity that is “you’re even more radical than Pelagius.”
Definitions don’t matter, history doesn’t matter. All that matters is “I hate you, so the light I paint you in will only grow worse and worse.”
Christian Royale@ClashChristianR
@Soteriology101 You aren’t a Pelagian Leighton. You go way further than Pelagius ever did. Pelagius would become an Augustinian if he saw your videos.
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@DPGBehler Notice how St Augustine never had to write anything refuting the Pelagians on open-theism. Because the Pelagians didn’t believe it.
One of Leighton’s latest posts was diving straight into open theism.
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@rootcausesleuth The guys who call Calvinism demonic all the time now are and when the favour is returned?
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This is disgusting behavior from someone claiming the name of Christ and should be called out by all Christians.
Oz Marquez 🕊️@OzMarquezz
@ReformedCaio Warren is such a crafty and slick demoniac with his words, like his father.
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@Soteriology101 You aren’t a Pelagian Leighton. You go way further than Pelagius ever did.
Pelagius would become an Augustinian if he saw your videos.
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😂😂😂
Some of you know you deserve this one! And you know who you are! 😆
Rachel on the Battlefield ☀️@writeontheedg3
I decided, it was time guys. I made the meme. Feel free to use as needed…
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@MtZionAD33 @chris_calvi Would you be complaining if he went to Oxford or Harvard? Which are completely secular and atheistic?
You are just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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//He isn’t pursuing an MDiv there, he’s getting his PhD.//
But does this even make sense? Whether someone is training for pastoral ministry or for teaching future pastors, both degrees are ultimately meant to equip a person to teach either a congregation or future students.
//runs with less hostility to traditional Christian beliefs//
Even if the institution is less hostile to traditional Christian beliefs, Catholics are enemies of the gospel. Period. Placing yourself under their tutelage is unwise. More often than not, those who study in these institutions develop cracks in their theological armor and eventually drift into liberalism. History has shown this pattern repeatedly.
//People who know the academic landscape know this is really good.//
You may call this a smart or prestigious move, but what they really mean is that the field of evangelical critical scholarship is hostile to conservative fundamentalists. In order to succeed and gain any real standing in those circles, one eventually has to play by their rules. Either way, this approach prioritizes the love of academic prestige and worldly acceptance over faithfulness to Christ.
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@whtevrgoshre @_Alexylo_ @OrevaZSN There weren’t “queer” people in Ancient Greece. Homosexuality in Greece was between rich men and young boys. Not between consenting adults.
If don’t think you want to call what the Greeks did as part of the lgbtq movement.
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@_Alexylo_ @OrevaZSN Except the thing everyone thinks stands out like the car is just a queer person existing in ancient fucking Greece of all places
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@Alex_Ortodoxie You’ve literally had like 5 formal debates with Prots in the last 3 months.
Who’s hiding?
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We orthobros are the ones begging for substantive, formal debate; timed back and forth; timed cross-exams to push for answers; open dialogues, etc.
Meanwhile, these great “apologists” hide up in their ivory tower.
That’s okay.
Everyone sees you have no substance.
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@HandoVinyard What a way to out yourself as having a low iq
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Well, we finally saw The Odyssey. After buying our tickets in advance and months of anticipation, my friends and I drove the four hours to the closest
theater showing it in 70mm. We were all excited and hoping for the best, but this was a big swing-and-miss by Christopher Nolan. Look, I get that it’s a “classic,” but The Odyssey is basically 3 hours of the longest, most pointless road trip in history while the wife sits at home weaving the same tapestry on repeat. The gods are petty drama queens, the monsters are random, and the whole thing seems like it was directed by a guy who really loved hearing himself talk
Half the movie is just people crying, sacrificing animals, or reciting their entire family trees. Ten years to get home? Bro, use Google Maps.
Skip it unless your professor is forcing you. 1/5 stars – Overhyped ancient snoozefest
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@UntoldFortune If everybody goes to heaven then it doesn’t matter anyway.
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Latinizers are a far greater evil and corruption of Christianity than Dyerites could ever be.
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@Babyhead91 If the Orthodox Church hypothetically stopped existing would your version of Christianity survive?
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Jimbob, the Orthodox Church historically executed many people for not being Orthodox.
Why are you so offended by Mahler wanting to do the thing your own church says is fine?
(To clarify I do not support killing anyone for their religion).
Made by Jimbob@ByJimbob
@lporiginalg Read this
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@ByJimbob @megievalist So if you buy a pair of shoes you like is it meaningless to say they are good shoes since there is no objective universal standard for what constitutes good shoes?
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@megievalist “Being fine” saying a woman is a woman or a dog is a dog doesn’t get the nominalist out of their problem. It’s meaningless to say a woman is a woman if there is no universal nature of a woman, or a dog.
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Dyer's argument doesn't work.
Nominalism is a metaphysical thesis. The nominalist is fine saying a woman is a woman, or a dog is a dog. Nominalism is fine with biological kinds.
It's the idea that, for example, a dog is a dog because it participates in some universal, abstract idea of dog-ness that the nominalist would oppose.
Crying "Luther did a nominalism and now everybody is gay!" doesn't accurately describe nominalism, doesn't accurately convey Luther's metaphysical propositions, and doesn't accurately outline the philosophical genealogy of gender theory (we could turn to Butler, go back to Foucault. . .).
Defiant Ghost@TheDefiantGhost
Jay Dyer on Tucker Carlson: How Medieval Philosophy Nominalism created modern transgender ideology: “Nominalism is the idea that there are only names to things, not essences. So there’s no human nature. No dog nature. The ancient world believed things have real essences. Words described metaphysical reality. Occam started denying that. It influenced Luther. Then Hume, Kant, the Enlightenment… If things don’t have essences, then they don’t have genders objectively — everything is just a name. So I can just name myself he, him, Zer, Z. That’s the logical train from medieval philosophy to postmodern gender ideology. It flies in the face of lived experience. You basically have to be indoctrinated to believe it.”
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@HadesUndead This guy calls other people gay daily. Insane levels of projection.
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