@MarissaJ1089 @TomBuck I don’t see your husband in your profile picture.
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D. S. Elliott
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D. S. Elliott
@DSElliott
Christian | American | Ph.D. | USMC Veteran of Israel's Wars
Christendom Katılım Kasım 2019
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@DSElliott @TomBuck The verse is "love covers a multitude of sin" and this is not uncovering sin it's telling testimony which she herself shares as well.
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There are hundreds of solid pastors who agree with that, so why those two? Calvin is a Fox News grifter who skipped seminary and LARPs as quasi-Catholic as he changes denominations/associations every year or so. Joel’s m.o. is trying to be controversial for clicks then claiming he was slandered and victimized for a second round of clicks.
Neither of these two will last. I sincerely appreciate your videos/books and hope you don’t further associate yourself with them.
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@DSElliott I’m firmly reformed. And I appreciate the courage of Joel and Calvin. We don’t agree on everything but we do agree on who (feminists, Christ-rejecting Jews, Muslims, etc) are the enemies of Christ.
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@OldeWorldOrder Talk is cheap. The administration imports millions of legal migrants from the third world every month.
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STEPHEN MILLER: "The path forward is to take all necessary and rational steps to save Western Civilization."
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@BenZeisloft I think you hit the nail on the head. Some would like to pretend the temporal consequences of their sin doesn't exist because they are forgiven spiritually and hate anyone who doesn't play along with their false reality.
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God can save sinners and redeem their broken pasts. You will not find me making fun of these two or their marriage in any way.
With that said, this post is striking a nerve because it comes in the context of a deeply broken social contract, including and especially in the church, where young men are expected to tolerate infinite bad behavior from young women even as older men and older women refuse to hold them accountable.
If the evangelical church in our day did not have a reputation for effeminacy and refusing to acknowledge the sins of women, many of which are actively destroying our civilization, perhaps our presentation of the gospel to the culture would be taken more seriously.
Trevor Sheatz@TrevorSheatz
My wife was formerly promiscuous. I was a virgin. She was then radically born-again. Committed to church, evangelized constantly, Puritan books in her bedroom, prayer journals, grief over past sexual sin, etc. We got to know each other well for over a year, dated for four months, engaged for two and a half, and didn't sin sexually with one another. Our first kiss with each other was at the altar on our wedding day (reaction pic attached!). We've been married for over five years now, and she's been the most wonderful and godly wife, mother to our three children, and homemaker you could imagine. She's more pure than most virgins, as biblical purity has less to with past sins (though they certainly matter) and more to do with one's current posture of the heart and daily decisions to honor the Lord (Matt. 5:8). We're far too quick to forget the story of the woman labeled as a known "sinner" (likely a prostitute) in Luke 7:36-50 who was washing Jesus' feet with her tears while kissing them too. The Pharisees were shocked that Jesus let a public sinner do this. Jesus responded with a parable about debts being forgiven and ended with this powerful conclusion: "Her many sins have been forgiven; that’s why she loved much. But the one who is forgiven little, loves little" (Luke 7:47). Everyone seems to highlight the benefits of virginity, and it certainly is a blessing. But we forget to highlight the benefits of being forgiven much as well. My wife knows the depths of Jesus' forgiveness more than most people, enabling her to more easily live out a life of passionate love for her Savior. A woman or man's past sexual sin matters. But what matters far more when it comes to deciding who to marry is if the person is truly born again, if their repentance is real, if they truly have a heart for Christ, if they truly follow Jesus and obey his commands. "God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world — what is viewed as nothing — to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, so that no one may boast in his presence. It is from him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became wisdom from God for us — our righteousness, sanctification, and redemption, — in order that, as it is written: 'Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.'" (1 Cor. 1:27-31) "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, and see, the new has come!" (2 Cor. 5:17)
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@dalepartridge I'll give it a listen tomorrow. Haven't been a fan of the company you've been publicly keeping (Calvin, Joel, et al.). Didn't know if you and Calvin were twinning.
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I don't think so. He's clearly ruminating on the subject and using the "moment" that Tom created to coregulate and find affirmation from women with similar pasts and a handful of men too. I don't agree that there's a lot of room to read into it. He's airing his wife's sin, not covering it. I wouldn't do that to anyone I loved, even if they were okay with it.
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@DSElliott @TomBuck At some point, that says less about them and more about how we’re choosing to read it.
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@JustInHere2021 @TomBuck "My brother diddled kids, but praise God he doesn't anymore." (for the record, my brother didn't).
When someone is forgiven of their sin that is wonderful; the sin is dead and should stay buried... not taxidermized by someone else and put on display.
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@DSElliott @TomBuck “He’s exposing her to make himself feel better”
That assumes the worst possible motive.
It could also be what it appears to be. A testimony of what Christ has redeemed, which Scripture consistently encourages.
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@JustInHere2021 @TomBuck Even if you are forgiven, you should still feel shame for past sin.
This was a "me too" post to relate to bad advice Tom gave a few days ago. He's trying to coregulate and come to terms with the decision he made by further exposing her to make himself feel better.
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@DSElliott @TomBuck This only works if you assume mentioning someone’s past = shaming them. But in Scripture, testimony includes what Christ saved us from. The issue isn’t whether her past was mentioned. It’s whether she’s being dishonored or Christ is being magnified.
Christ is being magnified.
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@autocorrect2_0 It is wiser to marry a virgin than the town bicycle, regardless of whether they are both forgiven. The amount of heartburn that fact is giving some women on this platform is crazy.
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@DSElliott “Wiser”
Sure bro.
The wisest among us know their own sin deserves hell and are humble.
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@DSElliott @TomBuck “Love covers sins” means we don’t expose people to shame them. It doesn’t mean we can’t speak about what Christ has forgiven/redeemed/restored. Especially when it’s part of their testimony. She has spoken about it publicly. I imagine she approves of his message.
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@farmingandJesus @TrevorSheatz Did I say she was trying to keep her past secret? That would be the appropriate thing to do for the sake of her future children for what it's worth.
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@DSElliott @TrevorSheatz She’s been sharing her testimony for years. You are wrong here.
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My wife was formerly promiscuous. I was a virgin.
She was then radically born-again. Committed to church, evangelized constantly, Puritan books in her bedroom, prayer journals, grief over past sexual sin, etc.
We got to know each other well for over a year, dated for four months, engaged for two and a half, and didn't sin sexually with one another. Our first kiss with each other was at the altar on our wedding day (reaction pic attached!).
We've been married for over five years now, and she's been the most wonderful and godly wife, mother to our three children, and homemaker you could imagine.
She's more pure than most virgins, as biblical purity has less to with past sins (though they certainly matter) and more to do with one's current posture of the heart and daily decisions to honor the Lord (Matt. 5:8).
We're far too quick to forget the story of the woman labeled as a known "sinner" (likely a prostitute) in Luke 7:36-50 who was washing Jesus' feet with her tears while kissing them too. The Pharisees were shocked that Jesus let a public sinner do this.
Jesus responded with a parable about debts being forgiven and ended with this powerful conclusion: "Her many sins have been forgiven; that’s why she loved much. But the one who is forgiven little, loves little" (Luke 7:47).
Everyone seems to highlight the benefits of virginity, and it certainly is a blessing. But we forget to highlight the benefits of being forgiven much as well. My wife knows the depths of Jesus' forgiveness more than most people, enabling her to more easily live out a life of passionate love for her Savior.
A woman or man's past sexual sin matters. But what matters far more when it comes to deciding who to marry is if the person is truly born again, if their repentance is real, if they truly have a heart for Christ, if they truly follow Jesus and obey his commands.
"God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world — what is viewed as nothing — to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, so that no one may boast in his presence. It is from him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became wisdom from God for us — our righteousness, sanctification, and redemption, — in order that, as it is written: 'Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.'" (1 Cor. 1:27-31)
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, and see, the new has come!" (2 Cor. 5:17)
Tom Buck (Five Point Buck)@TomBuck
If someone argues that a former promiscuous woman is "damaged goods" and questions whether a Christian young man should marry her, remember Rahab. She was a Canaanite prostitute but became a mother in the lineage of Jesus. God redeemed her, cleansed her, and Salmon married her.
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I'm pushing 40 and not here to give you life advice, but since you two keep including me in your conversation...
1) Thirty-three is over a decade past your marriageable prime. Four exes is a lot of baggage.
2) I'm not saying you're a liar, but it's easier to find a needle in a haystack than a virgin working in a hospital. Nurses consistently poll as one of the sluttiest professions.
3) Twenty-three and trolling older women on twitter makes for a boring life. Delete the socials and touch grass!
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@Zagoyim @DSElliott @TrevorSheatz Oh okay.. you’re 23. I remember 33 seemed ancient at that age. It’s all relative 🙂 believe it or not people keep getting married all throughout life, after being widowed etc etc
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BREAKING:
White smoke seen in Israel, signaling a new head of Only fans has been selected.
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@DSElliott @FarmerFigs @TrevorSheatz Where is the fruit of the spirit? I don’t think God would look at a person and discount them for that.
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@MissUncivilized @TrevorSheatz I don’t think you know the meaning of the word “refute”.
If you lack the wisdom to know why airing your wife’s poor reputation is bad for your marriage and family then that’s another conversation.
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@DSElliott @TrevorSheatz I’m also refuting your “don’t put your wife’s shameful past on the internet because it isn’t shameful since she has repented and God did work in her. She does not have to be ashamed. I’m sure she regrets things, but she doesn’t need to carry shame.
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@DSElliott @TrevorSheatz Did you not read my last post? I said he’s forgiven. I would not be able to get past it and I wouldn’t marry him the same way some men couldn’t get past a woman with a promiscuous past. I’m not forcing anyone to marry someone. I’m defending the she’s completely forgiven.
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