EvilCrawfish

@spadachim_grego 0/10 ragebait or retarded? Marathon stomps the shit outta Arc Raiders. ESPECIALLY now that Cryo Archive is out. That one map alone clears all of Arc Raiders lmao

@superhys @alineaanalytics The graphics, art direction, scenarios, atmosphere and robot designs of Arc Raiders are just better. Also, third person shooters are more friendly and fun to play.

Marathon has sold 1.2M copies across Steam, PS5, and Xbox (@alineaanalytics estimates). It hasn't exactly made the splash Sony and Bungie wanted, even if the game underneath the surface is a MASTERWORK of design. Looking at the split between Steam, PS5, and Xbox, Steam is clearly the main platform for Marathon, accounting for a little under 70% of the audience (800K copies sold). Meanwhile, PS5 takes about 19% (217K) and Xbox (including console, PC, and cloud) accounts for a bit over 11% or 133K. Marathon is technically a first-party Sony title, so seeing the home console struggle to break 20% of the volume is a notable data point for the ongoing platform-agnostic debate. PlayStation Studios online games will almost certainly continue being multiplatform (despite Sony reportedly pulling back on PC releases). One topic that came up in a lot of conversations at GDC this year was why Marathon hasn’t hit the same stratosphere as Arc Raiders. On paper, they’re both extraction shooters, and Marathon has the Bungie pedigree – the house that built the gold standard for gunplay in Halo and Destiny. My answer: Players understand the Arc Raiders loop within 30 minutes, while Marathon's UI acts as a massive filter, chewing up newcomers and spitting them out before they can experience the depth of Bungie’s signature gunplay and Marathon's awesome gameplay loop. The Steam copies sold during each game's respective Server Slam paint a picture there. Arc Raiders saw a massive 80% jump in copies sold during its three-day Server Slam. Marathon, meanwhile, saw a 49% increase in the four days following its Slam (Day -7 to -3). Despite the friction-heavy start, the data suggests that those who survived Marathon’s onboarding are loving life. We’ve been tracking cross-platform DAUs, and while there’s the expected post-launch leakage, many players are sticking with it. After peaking at 478K total DAUs on its first Saturday, Marathon has settled into a respectable rhythm, holding 345K DAUs as of yesterday and averaging 380K DAUs across the weekend. On Steam, Marathon’s average playtime has climbed to 27.8 hours, significantly outpacing the console averages on PS5 (16.5h) and Xbox (17.3h). Even more telling than the averages: 22% of the Steam audience has surged past the 50-hour mark, and nearly 7% have already logged over 100 hours. PlayStation and Bungie are at a crossroads here. They can: 1. Double down on Marathon with a long-term Rainbow Six Siege- or No Man’s Sky-style recovery plan, which is something I heard @ChrisRGun smartly mention last week on Sacred Symbols. While this could be a sunk-cost fallacy in action, it could eventually yield the audience the game’s mechanical depth deserves. 2. Shift focus toward the inevitable Destiny 3 or another project, mitigating the escalating opportunity cost and cutting their losses, so to speak. Doing both is an expensive proposition, given the high overhead and burn rate of operating out of Bellevue, Washington. With Sony recently demonstrating a lower threshold for underperforming studios and projects, the margin for error has vanished. Whatever happens, the next six months will determine whether Marathon becomes a cornerstone of Sony’s live-service portfolio or a cautionary tale of vision exceeding accessibility. I’m hoping it’s the former, because Marathon fucking rocks. Big analysis on the free Substack, with lots more data and thoughts (link in bio)

@agilbeau26 Yeah all three of those games are okay at best. Marathon is way more exhilarating to play than all of them. Hands down.

@lmntlll Ah a steam charts enjoyer then. Maybe try engaging with life instead of staring at a screen malding all day. Things might turn around for you.

@EvilCrawfish Nobody told me lol data says otherwise but keep being delusional

me on a friday: going to a gig with my friends smashjt on a friday:

@henrique_azores @LUCKYY10P He legally has to say that he's sponsored to play the game or he's toast. You're retarded.

@LUCKYY10P When the paid sponsorship ends he'll change his tune. Streamers are cancer

Shroud says that Marathon's Cryo Archive is the most elaborate extraction shooter map he’s ever seen.

@lmntlll Which chud YouTuber told you to have that opinion? The game is absolutely fire. Polar opposite of a flop.

@MathRockSucked He’s right though, game is a flop

@IconIcon137227 @RiloeGaming I just might be the definition of a casual gamer: full-time career and a family and I will be getting my ass in Cryo Archive tomorrow and exfilling. If I can do it then no one has an excuse. It's gonna be fine.

@RiloeGaming I never said that. I never said it needs to be achievable by everyone. It needs to feel achievable. The bulk of the playerbase will just give up if it feels like they stand no chance.

It's really crazy that Bungie could have made an approachable, mainstream compatible, bog-standard extraction shooter, and instead decided to make one of the most brutal, highest skill ceiling, creatively designed multiplayer experiences of all time

@SmashJT @JakeSucky Yeah that's kinda the fucking point he's making. All of that baggage wouldn't be there so people would be all about the game. You special?

@JakeSucky Well that depends... Does this 'other' fictional studio steal art MULTIPLE TIMES as well? Did they have any monetization and Content vaulting controversy? Workplace and HR scandal allegations? Orrrr...

A Reddit user has gone viral for their take that if any other Studio had made Marathon, people would be losing their minds over how good it is

@relentlessly33 @painfulfacts101 @LUCKYY10P I don't think anyone has said Marathon is generational. It's just surprisingly pretty good for the extraction shooter crowd.

@painfulfacts101 @LUCKYY10P I'm just tired of the fake shit. And amount of people trying to push a false sense of this games generational.... The numbers literally show its niche. And when the reset hits and people forgot that was a thing. And destiny 2 has its new release .... Let's see what happens.

TimTheTatman says every time he says something positive about Marathon, chat types hashtag ad, so he stopped saying anything positive.

@MarkBadMan @TheMG3D You have no idea how much money it cost to make Marathon or how much they've made. None of us do. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

@TheMG3D Because it about the industry. Sony is in the hole on this game by about $280-300m. Only making $28 million. There is a very strong chance Bungie gets let go like BluePoint. Or they are going to pivot and reduce the company massively. Actions have consequences.

Why don’t they just play games they enjoy instead of complaining about games they will never play?

@RebelSixShot You're clearly retarded based on all the Nick Fuentes and other alt-right shit you post. Go put your energy into something you enjoy instead of hating on a video game on the internet.

@EvilCrawfish I got a better idea. Man up and stop being a sensitive little wimp over someone else's opinion. Luckily for me, it's the majorities opinion little Flea

You want a break from Bungie doomposting? Fine. Marathon ended up being a very good video game, especially given the time and resources it had in this latest iteration to turn things around. Deserves more praise than it’s getting and much less mindless hate

@RebelSixShot Here's a thought: Get out of your alt-right bubble you moron and go see the real world for once.

@PaulTassi Oh it hasn't gotten enough hate. The majority who hate it need to say it as loud as you Bungie fans praise it. And you minority are literally trying to tell people to buy it and try it even when you know the majority won't like it because it's not casual friendly.

@ajroo Marathon should not even be put in the same sentence as Concord and Highguard. It is so wildly better and more fun to play. You're retarded.

@PaulTassi @Forbes What turnaround? Ive seen zero data that says anything but a slightly slower death than Concord 1 & 2.

‘ARC Raiders’ Head Praises ‘Unusual’ Marathon Turnaround via @forbes forbes.com/sites/paultass…

@Mograx2 @AdamCrigler @forestcloud12 Dude wtf are you talking about? No one at Bungie wants ANY of that. You are either a bot or legitimately insane and need psychiatric evaluation and treatment.

@AdamCrigler @forestcloud12 Your point being just because the shiny keys dangling in my face were made by people who hate you and want you dead and your wives raped and your kids brainwashed and they think it's funny, doesn't mean you should complain about them bc I like the shiny keys.

I wonder how it would be if Marathon was made by a no name company. Many comments I've seen aren't even anti Marathon, they are anti bungie. The obsession with Marathon's downfall feels borderline psychotic. As if bungie killed these people's dogs and they are John Wicking the internet comments.

@SmashJT No but I think you might be. ARC Raiders is absolutely the extraction shooter for dads and there's nothing really wrong with that.

Honest question.... Is Shroud retarded? Please do not attempt to community note or report this post. I am being 100% genuine when I ask.

@nichottv Ranked mode will have a "gear ante" of sorts so your fill teammates will have to wear something.

I’m not gonna lie fill in marathon might be the worst gaming experience I’ve encountered They gotta do something to incentivise people to run stuff, like why am I gonna putt on a full loadout just for me to get 2 free kits. Forcing me to 1v3

@TauCetiGG The game is incredible. Once ranked and Cryo Archive come out I think this game will be in an amazing spot. Seriously 9/10

It's been exactly one week since Marathon came out. What are your thoughts on the game right now?

@SneakyBeaver 8.5/10 for me. Ranked and Cryo Archive map could bump it to a 9. Duo Queue and some small QoL stuff would make it a 10.

Now that Marathon has been out for a little while I'm curious to see what rating are people giving vs what they gave it initially on launch? Saw a lot of 5's from people before they sunk in more hours into the game, how about now?

@sevenout @Goosewasinuse No one cares bro. Stop staring at steam charts and do something constructive with your life.

@Goosewasinuse Marathon just lost 25,000 players since YESTERDAY. Not good when the leading install base is PC @ 75k players on average, and the game launched five days ago. The game is down 43% from its launch peak of 88k players. That means 43% of people who paid $40 for Marathon are gone.

After grinding for 50 hours I can pretty confidently say that this is Bungie’s most complete and put together game since Halo Reach. The art is unlike anything I’ve seen, every map is fantastic, story and lore is really well written, gameplay is nearly perfect. It’s peak.

@OrcsinParadise Oh my god enough of this shit. How many of you losers do I need to block? Every single Marathon post has like a dozen of you losers in it. The game is fun as hell.

@A_dmg04 Was killing Destiny for this garbage worth it?

Quick run doing some intro questing. Love the name “Omnigul’s Inside Voice”

@Adampetruzziel1 @DarkIxion Antireal didn't invent the entire art style my guy. The whole thing was 3 decals placed on different scenery objects.

@DarkIxion Art direction of the year would be pretty wild considering they stole it,and then just brushed the logos from AR's art off,but go on kween......

My thoughts after 24 hours of Marathon Pros - My favourite aesthetic of any game, ever. I may be faded but I think this could win art direction at the game awards - Guns feel and sound weighty and satisfying to use in typical Bungie fashion - Audio is crisp and accurate, listening out for footsteps is super reliable - Games feel fun and rewarding, never thought an extraction shooter would be my thing but the loot chase hits like crack - Lore heavy - Post launch content sounds incredible Cons - Shotguns and Snipers are OP - Equipping mods could be simplified, at the moment if I hover over a mod, it shows me what weapon I can put it on. I think it’d be better and quicker if I hovered over a weapon instead and it showed me what mods I can equipin turn it would help avoid clutter - The UI isn’t actually that difficult to understand once you get used to it but the onboarding process could use some work, feel like people get turned off before they’ve even really begun to play I’ll have a more in depth review the more I play as I’m on Outpost now which is meant to be a huge step up in a bunch of different ways. All in all, I love this game so far, and plan to support it long term with my time and my wallet 💸 Also, fuck your steam charts #marathonthegame