@ImprecatoryOne What if it didn’t exist for the first 1,000 years?
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FaithPundit
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FaithPundit
@FaithPundit
Protestant Christian, American
Indianapolis, IN Katılım Şubat 2026
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You should question your theology on a topic if it didn’t exist for the first 1500 years of the church.
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@BillArnoldTeach @IndianaBrunner There were Old Testament scriptures, and Peter was already citing Paul as scripture as well.
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@IndianaBrunner At the time Paul wrote this,
there was no New Testament to ‘stay within.’
So this can’t mean Sola Scriptura.
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I’ve still never heard a good explanation for this verse from those who reject Sola Scriptura.
“I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.” (1 Corinthians 4:6)
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@CatholicDrip___ But… Catholic and Orthodox have different bibles?
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If Catholic/Orthodox Church didn’t canonize the Bible….
Please provide the NAMES of the people who did canonize it
Don’t tell me it was accepted by a group of “Random Christians”
Names!
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@kdwelds @CapturingChrist Better than the Catholic Church which only gave you half the Eucharist for quite an extended period of time
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@FaithPundit @CapturingChrist I’m pretty sure Gavin believes in saltines and Welch’s grape, and probably once monthly.
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In short, early Church gatherings were intimately Catholic.
Gavin quotes Justin Martyr in his video saying the following:
“For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh.”
This is simply not compatible with Baptist theology.
Gavin Ortlund@gavinortlund
What would it have been like to attend a worship gathering in 150 AD? New video out today, recounting Justin Martyr's description and drawing implications. I am also going to make this one into a shorter animated video, Lord willing (will be a few months).
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That was a misspeak on my part, I’m not claiming (or mean to claim) Catholics believe works are what justifies them, rather that works are necessary to display a true faith. I think most Protestants would agree to this, barring a few out there radical Protestants who don’t hold to most historic Protestant confessions (which also exist in the Catholic realm as well)
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For the record, I have no issues with the church establishing core doctrines; and particularly how to interpret those core doctrines (aka mechanisms of faith, the trinity, etc.)
It’s when the church moves to codify doctrine that is *clearly* a later invention and not found among the early church (ex. Assumption of Mary)
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The church said they settled it but a simple look at church history shows how much division, infighting, and debate there is over those topics.
Whether it be Protestant reformation, the Catholic/Orthodox split, or even the infighting within the Catholic Church; there is plenty of room for private interpretation all throughout church history.
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Private interpretation didn’t exist in the early Church.
It exists now
and look at the results.
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@drillinlooks @Colin4Tradition @jardiniernormie In fact, it even pretty clearly hints to the fact they did.
Joseph did not know her *UNTIL*, that’s extremely odd phrasing for something that never happened
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@Colin4Tradition @FaithPundit @jardiniernormie Again, based on why and to what end?
Nowhere in the Bible is it even hinted to that it would be improper for Joseph to have sex with his wife.
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Protestant Joseph be like:
"AAAAARGH I MUST HAVE SEX SO WHAT IF MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO GOD HIMSELF AND GOD IS LIVING IN MY HOUSE I JUST NEED THE SEX SOOOO BAD"
Jennifer Greenberg 🕊️@JennMGreenberg
I never understood the purpose of this doctrine. Obviously Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus, but why must she remain perpetually so? Especially when the Bible talks about Jesus’s brothers. She was married to Joseph and sex within marriage is good, not sinful.
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@Colin4Tradition @jardiniernormie You can emphasize Christ’s holiness without that doctrine so I’m not following
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@FaithPundit @jardiniernormie Emphasis on Christ’s holiness
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@jardiniernormie So why is Mary’s perpetual virginity a crucial belief that has to be mandated to be universally understood by the church?
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@BillArnoldTeach @BrittRooted Denying the virgin birth is one thing, saying she was perpetually a virgin until her death is another and that quote doesn’t mean anything in relation to that.
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@BrittRooted Zero support?
Luke 1:34 - ‘How will this be, since I do not know man?’
Why would Mary say that if she expected normal marital relations?
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There is zero biblical support of Mary being an eternal virgin. The biblical evidence is the exact opposite.
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles
When it comes to the perpetual virginity of Mary, do you agree with the Catholic view or with the view of Protestant reformers Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Wesley?
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@ReformedToRome @sola_chad @michaeljknowles Please cite where they are explicitly named as sons of a different women, would love to hear this
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@sola_chad @michaeljknowles Sola Chad quoting a verse where two of them are explicitly named as sons of a different woman and not Jesus’ mother in Scripture lol.
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When it comes to the perpetual virginity of Mary, do you agree with the Catholic view or with the view of Protestant reformers Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Wesley?
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@BillArnoldTeach Do you think it’s feasible/possible in the early church Presbyters were also picking successors?
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Christ sent apostles.
The apostles had successors.
Who sent your pastor?
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@LazarusGet26934 @doracamposast @BillArnoldTeach @BibleInContext1 Not really interested in a conversation with someone who’s this initially hostile to contrary viewpoints, so no worries, I’ll leave this be.
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@FaithPundit @doracamposast @BillArnoldTeach @BibleInContext1 I always initially block irrational 16th-century brainwashed cultists when they completely blow off the objective reality of documented historical evidence.
And I have little doubt I will have to block you again as you continue to ignore that reality.
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Roman Catholicism did not begin with Jesus!
The early Christian believers were not Roman Catholic!
The early church was largely made up of Jewish believers, who also taught the believing Gentiles the scriptures of the Old Testament and how Jesus the Messiah is the fulfillment of the promised redeemer!
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@doracamposast @LazarusGet26934 @BillArnoldTeach @BibleInContext1 Why are you assuming one Bishop had the same role as Peter since the beginning?
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@FaithPundit @LazarusGet26934 @BillArnoldTeach @BibleInContext1 Who exercised the role of Peter before the schism?
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