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@nycvitolo @AGrossNewsday They are both incredibly slow skaters, but mayfields top speed is higher and his bursts over 20mph are 16 to Soucy’s 9 So they’re both horrible skaters but mayfields top speed is a little faster

@Fayd2blak @AGrossNewsday To an extent.....seems to keep up with fast skaters a little more

#Isles at practice Lee-Horvat-Holmstrom Schenn-Barzal-Ritchie Shabanov-Pageau-Heineman Palat-MacLean-Gatcomb Extra: Duclair Schaefer-Pulock Pelech-Soucy George-Mayfield Extra: Romanov (right shoulder), Boqvist Sorokin Rittich

@MrMetsLawyer @AGrossNewsday Bo and barzal are the only thing that works offensively, there really isn’t a great choice to go with them, so go with Heineman or Duke Lee-JPG-Holmstrom works Also Soucy needs to sit

@Fayd2blak @AGrossNewsday Darche made it this way.

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes Palat so where in the bottom 3

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes List me in order the best forwards on this team after Barzal and Horvat who are way ahead of the rest. I’d say Lee Holmstrom Pageau Heineman Ritchie Schenn Czikas Duke Shabanov Maclean Gatcomb

#isles Yeah, this tracks. Darche's outlook from the jump looked future oriented. None of the guys he brought in had any real term. The only longterm contract he gave out was Romanov. The roster has a lot of space and flexibility to facilitate moves. Personally, I can't get onboard with the hate. I'm underwhelmed by this year's additions (to say the least) but that doesn't shock me given it always felt like an evaluation year. I don't get the hate. He's got a solid coach now and that will go a long way. We'll know more with the offseason. I just don't know enough about what he's actually able to accomplish, yet, given this is his first season on the job and he's still getting to know the roster.

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes I’m pretty sure Lee will be resigned for about $4m a year for 3 years and that would be good for the team

@philzfactz @Fayd2blak @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes Easy. In through the nose and out through the mouth. It's ok. Let Lee go. Just make it a happy goodbye

@philzfactz @ajb9465 @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes If you look at their actual stats Lee has more 20 & 22mph Bursts but Schenn has more 18mph bursts, they’re very similar, both better than average, both better than about 56% of nhl skaters

@Fayd2blak @ajb9465 @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes And Schenn a lot worse skater than this guy thinks.

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes Lees a much better skater than you’re giving him credit for

@philzfactz @Fayd2blak @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes You're not that dumb, I think. Comparing apples and oranges. Schenn is more versatile than Lee. He also has as many goals as cement skates Lee. Mind you for less money at this point. And he's not here to carry the lions share of scoring like Lee is supposed to do. You know that

@philzfactz @ajb9465 @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes Exactly

@Fayd2blak @ajb9465 @TommyBruno16 @islanders_takes Compare him to all the big UFAs given long term deals that summer and only Panarin has aged better, Kevin Hayes was half dead 4 years ago already.

@norespect4isles @AGrossNewsday Barzal and Horvat apart, soucy in the top 4 d, same unproductive 4th line, Schenn-Barzal-Ritchie, Duclair on the bench……same shit

@Fayd2blak @AGrossNewsday Elaborate.

@ajb9465 @TommyBruno16 @philzfactz @islanders_takes Almost every player that signs when Lee did in his career tails off at the end of the contract, he’s more productive than most

@Fayd2blak @TommyBruno16 @philzfactz @islanders_takes Not at 7 mil/yr be glad when he's gone. He is just part of the old country club culture that existed here

@nycvitolo @AGrossNewsday Mayfield is too slow but Soucy isn’t?

@AGrossNewsday I like holstrom with horvat.... Barzal back at center.....shabanov in.... And definitely prelech with soucy...... Mayfield is done too slow for today's NHL

@TommyBruno16 @ajb9465 @philzfactz @islanders_takes Anyone who understands where he is in his career and contract knows that 20-25 is a good year for him

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @Fayd2blak @islanders_takes 35 goals from Lee??? He hasn't had that many since 17/18. Not exactly a realistic expectation.

@stefen_rosner @juice33nyc I think the majority of the fans are excited about the new coach, want to win out and make the playoffs and are generally positive if they win

You can have gripes about so many things re #Isles but… Being solely negative doesn’t make you a realist. It's what gets clicks/sells in this day and age, I guess.

@philzfactz @ajb9465 @islanders_takes He’s working hard, you just hate the guy

He’s not though his body language out there stinks, think about it he didn’t want to waive last year didn’t want to waive this year until Roy and Darche met with him he leaves his wife in kids 1500 miles away to play for a team that immediately starts to struggle on top of that he already has a ring and a fat contract with term he has no real incentive to play hard at this juncture I don’t blame him.

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @islanders_takes I agree on Drouin, i didn’t like the signing but i thought it might work out, it didn’t. Palat i thought had more left than he does and i thought he could close out games, which we stink at. Soucy is where you’re wrong, under no circumstances should they have gotten him, sucks

@philzfactz @Fayd2blak @islanders_takes I'm really not. Soucy was a quick necessary evil. Low cost. Drouin was worth a try. Got traded. Palat played for Darche and if playoffs happened would lend some experience. No game breakers here at all. Lee on the other hand has been disappointing. Needed 35 goals got 19. Woof!

@philzfactz @ajb9465 @islanders_takes I don’t think he’s checked out, he’s battling

@ajb9465 @Fayd2blak @islanders_takes Hes soft he plays no defnense and because he already has a ring he looks completely checked out, the Blues are so much better off without him.

@ajb9465 @philzfactz @islanders_takes I don’t think Schenn is nearly as bad as Phil does, from what I’ve seen of Schenn though, Lee is a better player, he’s way better defensively and way way better battling along the half boards

@philzfactz @Fayd2blak @islanders_takes Schenn is much more valuable than Lee. No question. Lee is 1 dimensional and not really good at that anymore. And my criticism comes from a guy that thinks Sorokin stinks and Engvall is the solution to all things Islanders. Just amazing how hockey challenged you are.

@IslesDen @IslesUpNorth @IFANnetwork25 I was more angry that he left, he was a throw in, not a big time player until he came the islanders, they gave him every chance and he did well, then he bolted his first chance for more money and he was terrible in Toronto

@IslesUpNorth @IFANnetwork25 He was sooo good though what do you mean selfish? Like puck hogging?

19 years today, Jason Blake recorded his 40th goal of the season. Only two Islanders have done this since the 1990's, Anders Lee is the other. Nice memory for one of my favorites back in the day. (2007) #Isles

@ajb9465 @islanders_takes Think about every single defenseman that was on waivers at some point this season, every one of them is better than Soucy, and a 3rd round pick isn’t nothing

@Fayd2blak @islanders_takes Soucy was a stop gap addition. Needed a bottom pair nhl dman and got one for basically nothing. But with injuries he had to log more minutes as mayfield did and it got dicey. When TDA went down it rolled into bad metrics for both Pelech and Pulock. 2 injuries on D would hurt most