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@HydSpeaks

Economist, Real Estate analyst, Investor, Bookworm

Hyderabad Katılım Aralık 2010
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Yes, I know. But even the 120 ft roads in Neopolis have the advantages I mentioned such as excellent pedestrian walkways separated by tree zones, underground utility ducts (you won’t see any electricity cables above ground), high altitude, cycling track, high capacity stormwater drainage, etc. That’s why projects near Neopolis often mention Neopolis specifically rather than just Kokapet and say “near Neopolis”. Some such as Fortune Suraj Bhan Grande even falsely claim that their project is “in” Neopolis instead of near it!
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piyush khanna@humarapiyush·
@HydSpeaks @RPatashala Hmm, but neopolis also has 120 ft road, not all are 150 sft road. Prestige side , skyra side all are 120 ft only.
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Realestate Patashala@RPatashala·
SSI Fortune Grande upcoming residential project at NEOPOLIS, Kokapet !! Spread across 12 acres , 6 towers , 45 floors each with 7.5 Acres of Central Park .. Renders have come . with these kind of projects Neopolis Layout will become landmark of Hyderabad !! Surely will touch 20k-25K per Sq.feet after 6-8 years !!
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
Typically, those seeking building permissions surrender their share of land required for road widening. Fortune Grande may have surrendered when they applied for permissions for this project. Those keeping their plots vacant or with existing buildings (or building permissions) prior to the 120 ft widening in the master plan may not have surrendered their share yet. Unless the government provides cash compensation under the land acquisition act, it cannot forcefully acquire that land. That’s why road widening usually happens in patches.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
Not 150 ft but 120 ft. Shankarpally Road was 100 ft when I made that comment back in 2024, but it later got widened to 120 ft. The other excellent features of Neopolis layout roads, such as excellent pedestrian walkways separated by tree zones, underground utility ducts (you won’t see any electricity cables above ground), high altitude, cycling track, high capacity stormwater drainage, etc., still differentiate Neopolis layout from Shankarpally Road.
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RP@Optimist4Life_·
@HydREGuide @HydSpeaks When I am paying top $$$, this is an unwarranted friction. And cant assume all vehicles have drivers. Either way is this creates friction.
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Satish Reddy | Hyderabad Real Estate & Infra
I don't see any issues with the vertical transportation design at Meenakshi Elan. In fact, I believe it is one of the best in this category. There are a few corrections to @Hydspeaks' statements. The main passenger lifts operate directly up to B2, and every apartment gets at least two parking spaces in B1/B2. Since these are the parking spaces owners are most likely to use daily, they have direct lift access without needing the shuttle (jumper) lift. I got this confirmation from Meenaksi ELan team in writing. Each tower has 6 passenger lifts and 2 service lifts serving just 90 apartments (2 flats per floor). That's an exceptionally generous lift-to-apartment ratio, comfortably outperforming projects like My Home Grava, IRIS, SSI Marquise, and most other luxury developments. The remaining parking spaces in B3/B4 are accessed via the shuttle lift. Rather than being a drawback, this actually improves the efficiency of the main passenger lifts by reducing unnecessary stops at the lower parking levels, leading to faster service for residents. CC: @pnkjPanigrahi
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I must retract my high praise for the vertical transportation at Meenakshi Elan because I just found out that the passenger elevators don’t go below the first basement. If your parking is lower, there’s a mandatory transfer to a shuttle elevator. I had spoken to a few prospective/existing buyers in this project, and they were all completely unaware of this limitation. If you’re an owner here, secure at least one parking spot in B1. It’ll save you from changing lifts just to reach your primary car, even in off-peak hours.

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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
I have a different view. I think residents won't easily accept even occasional inconvenience in an uber-luxury project. The idea that owners of 7k–9k SFT flats almost never drive or will always have drivers available 24/7 isn't realistic—nor is assuming two parking spaces will be enough for homes of that scale. There is also the guest experience to consider. If guest parking is in B3 or B4, visitors will definitely complain about the friction of navigating jump elevators just to get from their car to the apartment. I don't see how this enhances safety either. In commercial buildings, shuttle lifts work as a security feature because people are forced to pass through access-controlled turnstiles or checkpoints during the transfer. Without that extra layer of security at the transfer lobby here, jump elevators add daily friction but not any real protection.
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N Phani K Raaja@phanikrn8·
It's actually good in a way sir. Iam glad this builder started this culture. These are 7k sft flats and most of them don't drive they have in staff drivers and have concierge services. Mostly these owners come to the lobby area to get into the cars. It's a good culture for highend homes to begin with it and certainly good in terms of safety of owners.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
I must retract my high praise for the vertical transportation at Meenakshi Elan because I just found out that the passenger elevators don’t go below the first basement. If your parking is lower, there’s a mandatory transfer to a shuttle elevator. I had spoken to a few prospective/existing buyers in this project, and they were all completely unaware of this limitation. If you’re an owner here, secure at least one parking spot in B1. It’ll save you from changing lifts just to reach your primary car, even in off-peak hours.
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Pankaj Panigrahi@pnkjPanigrahi·
Well there is another property where this concept exists i.e. Sumadhura Olympus. It is actually worse there , as the main lifts go only to Ground floor.. one needs to switch to jump lifts for basements. IMO, this model works well for commercial places where there is lot of movement and people are not taking groceries etc. For residential places where elderly people need to use the lifts, it is a big inconvenience. I used to always praise Sumadhura Olympus for its elevators . But this was a big con hiding under the carpet till handover. I personally hate this idea for residential projects
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
@hyderabadprop I disagree with your first paragraph though. The foundation and footing stage was over last year itself. That doesn’t explain the slow progress this year. That’s why I said I suspect SP is to blame.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
@hyderabadprop I echo the views in your second, third, and fourth paragraphs. In fact, I had written something similar yesterday itself: x.com/hydspeaks/stat…
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@himaneshredz Despite Shapoorji Pallonji’s financial issues, I don’t think you should compare MSN One to the all but stalled Rajapushpa Casa Luxura given that MSN Group is financially strong. If required, MSN can even change the contractor and complete the project.

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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
The irony of MSN One: The project was aggressively marketed on Shapoorji Pallonji’s stellar construction reputation because MSN Realty is a first-time developer. But SP is currently struggling with liquidity crunches and undergoing debt restructuring. MSN One’s on-ground progress is slow, and I suspect SP is to blame. Will the contractor brought in to sell the project end up hurting it? I hope SP clears its financial hurdles and gets back on track quickly.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
It's quite common in commercial buildings but almost unheard of in residential ones. In offices, there’s security screening (or access control) and massive volumes of people need to be managed, so the transit makes more sense. Providing a luxurious experience isn't as much of a priority in office buildings as it is in ultra-luxury residential buildings. Also, an office worker is usually just carrying a laptop bag, while residents may have heavy luggage, groceries, or kids.
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Preetham_sai_dps@Preethamsaivar1·
@HydREGuide @HydSpeaks This a good concept and in fact a lot of grade A office builders follow this. There will be a jump lift from G to go to the B1,2,3 and 4. While the usual passenger lift serves between B3 to the rest of the floors. My office has this kind of system and it really helps.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
When you say 90% use cases, are you completely ignoring the plight of guests? I am sure most residents in ultra-luxury communities such as Meenakshi Elan would not be okay with putting their guests through the inconvenience of such an unusual transit. Frankly, I don’t know of a single other residential community in which this kind of transit exists.
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Satish Reddy | Hyderabad Real Estate & Infra
@HydSpeaks What you said is correct if all the parking is seggregated. 90% of the use cases ( 2 car spots) , you have direct access. Only for rest 2, we have shuttle lift and I don't see much harm with that. Given the tradeoff that we have better utilization of Main lift
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Syed Noor
Syed Noor@MrN178__·
One more point worth highlighting is why the shuttle (jumper) lift concept actually improves lift efficiency. In most gated communities, a common issue is that residents travelling to the basement often hold the main passenger lifts at parking levels, resulting in longer waiting times for residents on the upper floors. Meenakshi ELAN's design addresses this by introducing dedicated shuttle lifts for the deeper basement levels (B3/B4), while the main passenger lifts directly serve the most frequently used parking levels (B1/B2) and residential floors. This reduces unnecessary stops, improves lift availability, and ensures faster vertical transportation for the majority of residents. From an operational efficiency standpoint, this is one of the best lift planning concepts seen in recent luxury developments.
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RP@Optimist4Life_·
@HydREGuide @HydSpeaks All this on theory is great. It affects daily users. Ive seen such a system its a pain. Also, please be consistent with outreach. Cant contradict opinions in a few months. Remember high praise for this project. The project is great but do not underplay this painpoint
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Deepak Vijay@deepakvjmenon·
@HydSpeaks Yes, the logo is still there, even in your image. It’s just behind the streetlight pole in your image. That’s what I meant.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
Lulu seems to be out of the proposed Sandhya Mall in Narsingi. The first image is an old one. The second is a new one. Notice there’s no mention of Lulu on the new boards.
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Deepak Vijay@deepakvjmenon·
@HydSpeaks The Lulu Mall logo is still there. It was just hidden behind the streetlight pole. Here’s the original image.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
>> I shared current tower-wise status and RERA context clearly. Yes, you did. And that was why I told you that I already knew that and pointed out that it was irrelevant to what I had asked. >> foundational milestones (basements, transfer slabs, initial floors) are ahead of the original RERA-registered schedule registered in March 2025. This is exactly what I had suspected: that you are conflating the project's RERA completion date with its original schedule. You denied it initially but now you are contradicting yourself and cleary showing that you were talking about finishing before the RERA completion date as being ahead of the schedule! >> I’m not from the developer’s planning team to quote exact internal Gantt chart dates here. I know you're not from their team and that is why I was surprised when you spoke as if you knew their schedule (by saying that they are much ahead of their schedule, milestones, etc.). I later realised that you were rambling without even realising what you are saying. >> If you want precise milestone-by-milestone comparison, I can share the MSN management contact you can speak to them directly for full details and site visit. Not required. You are the one who claimed they are far ahead of schedule, so I asked you. I think it is highly unlikely that they would make such a claim. If they do, I will ask them. I won't ask them because of what you said!
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Syed Noor
Syed Noor@MrN178__·
I shared current tower-wise status and RERA context clearly. foundational milestones (basements, transfer slabs, initial floors) are ahead of the original RERA-registered schedule registered in March 2025. I’m not from the developer’s planning team to quote exact internal Gantt chart dates here. If you want precise milestone-by-milestone comparison, I can share the MSN management contact you can speak to them directly for full details and site visit.
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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
I share your view on MSN’s financial strength to complete the project. In fact, I stated this explicitly before shortly before your post: x.com/hydspeaks/stat… However, I disagree with your extreme view that a contractor’s financial stability is entirely irrelevant. A developer’s financial strength is far more important, but a subcontractor’s liquidity is not immaterial. Many major residential projects have faced delays due to contractors' financial distress. Even when building an independent house like yours, if your contractor is in financial distress and cannot pay daily labor or material vendors, the project stalls. Why intentionally ignore that risk? I don't understand why you are asking whether you should drop the construction of your house. The right question is whether you should change the contractor, and the answer is yes if his financial issues are significantly affecting your house construction. Shapoorji Pallonji’s brand reputation was aggressively used in marketing MSN One. I listed it as a pro in my review of MSN One. It wasn’t a supreme factor then, and their current issues aren’t supreme now either. But you can’t dismiss their financial health as completely irrelevant, especially given the visibly slow progress.
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@himaneshredz Despite Shapoorji Pallonji’s financial issues, I don’t think you should compare MSN One to the all but stalled Rajapushpa Casa Luxura given that MSN Group is financially strong. If required, MSN can even change the contractor and complete the project.

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HyderabadInsider@HydSpeaks·
I already knew the RERA completion date and the latest construction update. Since you said the project is “much” ahead of schedule and that the “overall milestones are well ahead,” I asked you to name two milestones and state what the original schedule was and how much earlier they were completed. Your response is completely irrelevant to what I had asked. You seem to be clueless about the schedule and just rambled.
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Syed Noor
Syed Noor@MrN178__·
Not conflating RERA with contractual possession. Project registered in March 2025 with outer completion 28 Feb 2030 (only 16 months in). On progress: Last 6 months: Visible external work slower, but internal & simultaneous work across towers advancing steadily. Tower AON & Eka: 5th floor in progress Tower Isa: Transfer slab completed, 3rd floor active Tower Odin & Uno: Basement completed Foundational milestones are well ahead of original RERA schedule. All five towers active together. RERA date is the registered maximum limit Agreement of Sale timelines are managed separately. This is the current progress. If you want more in-depth details, I can share the MSN management contact you can reach out directly and clear all doubts. Closing the discussion on this post
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Syed Noor
Syed Noor@MrN178__·
Reality check on MSN One: Shapoorji Pallonji was chosen as contractor for their strong high-rise experience many projects delivered in Dubai and a lot of government work in India. The aim was to avoid common quality, sewage, sanitary, and lift issues seen in other Hyderabad towers. On the progress: Labourers (mostly from West Bengal) took time off during the recent elections but are now back. All five towers are being constructed simultaneously. Groundwork, footing, and cellar work is happening rapidly. On an overall basis from RERA received date to today’s construction status the project is much ahead of schedule and progressing much faster than it appears. Even though visible floor work has been slower in the last few months, the overall milestones are well ahead. SP’s corporate financial issues (high coupon bonds, liquidity, Tata Sons stake etc.) are group-level matters. Since SP is a paid contractor here, MSN makes direct payments for the work. It is largely an internal SP issue and should not derail MSN One long-term. #MSNOne #HyderabadRealEstate
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