TheStuffOfStars

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TheStuffOfStars

TheStuffOfStars

@M4dDud3

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. Katılım Ekim 2009
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TheStuffOfStars
TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@BenBurgis if you only used the free version of these AIs and have not tried them on paid with longer thinking modes activated, then your impression of AI is based on very weak models that are pretty bad, i don't think it's reasonable to judge the highest tier models to be poor anymore
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@TruthTeller8008 @Philip_Goff @danieldennett @davidpapineau Oh for some reason your description of the view didn't read like PCS to me, but i haven't read anything PCS related in years so i guess i just need to refresh my memory, i remember being convinced by Stoljar’s critique of PCS back in the day and i stopped reading on it after that
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Philip Goff
Philip Goff@Philip_Goff·
A physicalist has to bite 1 of these bullets: 1) a blind from birth neuroscientist could know what it's like to see red (@danieldennett style old-school physicalism). 2) we know nothing about what pain is from knowing how it feels (@davidpapineau style new-fangled physicalism).
Lorenzo Elijah (PhD)@LorenzoElijah

I agree this is self-evident. Seems there’s a deeper disagreement here about what needs explaining. One side defines consciousness as qualia (subjective experience from the inside). The other defines consciousness as something information processing. Which side you take frames the whole debate.

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Truth Teller@TruthTeller8008·
@M4dDud3 @Philip_Goff @danieldennett @davidpapineau Also, under this account phenomenal concepts are literally constituted by token experiences. But that does not mean that possessing them will give you the physical mode of presentation, obviously the whole point is it won't. But it still reveals it's nature in one sense
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Jesse Spafford
Jesse Spafford@jessespafford·
Finally, I'd just note the oddity of writing a long post policing the slogans people use and then say "I question the wisdom of anyone who thinks we should prioritize low-stakes language-policing when there are such existentially important political outcomes at stake."
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TheStuffOfStars
TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@TruthTeller8008 @Philip_Goff @danieldennett @davidpapineau the phenomenal mode of presentation is also physical in this account, what physical thing is revealed when having an experience,i get that the ultimate physical nature is hidden, but what physical thing is revealed if any, and how is it identical or constituted by physical things
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Truth Teller
Truth Teller@TruthTeller8008·
@Philip_Goff @danieldennett @davidpapineau This is false. You can be a physicalist and endorse a constitutional account of phenomenal concepts, in which you do in fact know what pain is under one mode of presentation just by tokening an experience of pain. It just wouldn't transparently reveal its physical nature.
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@philoshua Yeah he has been interacting with and reading the work of many Philosophers of physics in the past, and he has found it rather insightful, he thus gained respect for philosophy as a discipline a long time ago, which leads now into him actually adopting it
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Joshua Blanchard
Joshua Blanchard@philoshua·
At the beginning of this Sean Carroll calls himself a "physicist and philosopher." I always thought of him as friendlier to philosophy than his average celebrity peer in physics, but I didn't know he considers himself a philosopher. youtu.be/u9YiM7LZ6b0?si…
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@RYChappell What do you think about the objection that epiphenomenalism is self stultifying
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@oliemack IMO LLMs are a powerful technology, and they will continue to be more transformative and have wider adoption/applications, but i don't believe the foundation of the technology is one that would ever reach singularity level scenarios, the foundation itself is limited.
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Oliver Mackenzie
Oliver Mackenzie@oliemack·
I am much closer to the former group but I have enjoyed absorbing online commentary over the past three years regardless. I anticipated that LLMs would be economically and politically contentious, but I didn't think their basic function would be under such heavy dispute.
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Oliver Mackenzie
Oliver Mackenzie@oliemack·
Interesting that 3 years later and there is still so much dispute about the capabilities of LLMs - even though they've advanced eons since. Half my timeline thinks we are on the verge of the singularity and half thinks LLMs are just a sleight of hand trick with few applications.
Oliver Mackenzie@oliemack

As someone who has been experimenting with GPT-3 for over a year now, some of the skepticism astounds me. It’s unbelievably powerful - and at the same time, not at all unique, as subsequent developments with LLMs have demonstrated.

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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@jessespafford @davemotorcycle1 as a matter of practicality i don't think it matters if one is self described as a rawlsian or GA Cohenite, the way they end up applying their thinking in the real world does not follow cleanly from the philosophy to begin with, so non ideal theory is more relevant
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Jesse Spafford
Jesse Spafford@jessespafford·
@davemotorcycle1 Anyway, that's a lot of underexplained quick hits on Rawls, but hopefully at least gestures toward why I, personally, didn't go in the Rawlsian direction and wouldn't want other people to go that way either.
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Friction
Friction@FrictionPhilo·
I want to write more substack posts. Anyone have any suggestions of what I should write?
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Paul Schofield
Paul Schofield@pschofie79·
Wow, why has no philosopher ever considered this?
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@FrictionPhilo @DrScotMSullivan It's actually supposed to be a contradiction, because Alexander's intention is an ontological argument in a proof by contradiction form, to oversimplify that is
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Friction
Friction@FrictionPhilo·
@DrScotMSullivan A "non-actual God" isn't a being at all, let alone one that enjoys (or lacks) any "realities".
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Dr. Scott M. Sullivan
Dr. Scott M. Sullivan@DrScotMSullivan·
“A non-actual God would be a being enjoying all realities, and yet missing some reality.” - Alexander Baumgarten, Metaphysics
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TheStuffOfStars@M4dDud3·
@WriterJohnBuck AFAIK most deontologists are threshold deontologists, so they believe there is a threshold at which the consequences can be so bad as it becomes moral all things considered to do prime facie impermissible acts, for example killing 1 innocent to save a billion
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John Buck 🇺🇸
John Buck 🇺🇸@WriterJohnBuck·
Deontology: Some acts are never permissible, regardless of positive consequences. Consequentialism: Any act is permissible, so long as it has overall positive consequences. How is Virtue ethics supposed to be some sort of 3rd way between these two?
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