Middle East Christian View †

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@ZzVvbbbbn You’re trying to say “no Jews, no news”, that might be true. But remember that the Syrian war was a lot messier than the ongoing Israel/Palestine mess. The messier a conflict is, the harder it is to understand it, pick a “side”, talk about it... So there was less public outrage.

14 years of civil war in Syria, at least 650k dead, nearly 7m displaced. There wasn't a single flotilla. Why was that?

@SheilaGreenfiel @lancevideos Do those things tell us the percentage of people originally from the Holy Land vs those who immigrated there? Either way, those numbers would imply that there is a population of non-immigrant non-Jews who live there today, who are originally from the Holy Land.

The population was from the Ottoman census. The birthrate is known. The current population is known. So that tells you how many Arabs there would be in Israel today. There are more than birthrate alone would account for. As for who was there, the clan names have been collected. It's not 100% but it's the best anyone can do.

I support the right of the Palestinian Muslims to return to their homeland of Saudi Arabia. Israel is for Jews.

@bizerd34 @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael When the Jews were scattered around the world, did they exist?

@MEChristianView @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael or a language, or borders, or a king, or were ever an actual state, or...

Prior to the Six Day War (1967). - Gaza was Egyptian. - West Bank was Jordanian. - Golan Heights was Syrian. Where were the Palestinians prior 1967?

@KarlstromDan @P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz They are very similar but different, even without man-made borders and nationalities (like you said). There are Principal Component Analysis studies that support this.

@MEChristianView @P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz What genetic differences do the westbank Palestinians have from those in Jordan? Is it larger than say, between people from Wales and England? If not, why are they 2 people? Any proof of your claim? They do seem like the same people, yes. In fact the Westbank was Jordan.

@jalistairclone @Traktec1147871 @shcendo @VerminusM Stop lying. 2.2 mil did not vote for Hamas. Gaza population wasn’t even 2.2 mill in 2006, and roughly half of the population are children and couldn’t vote. What you’re saying is dangerous. It’s like saying “all the ppl voted for Bibi should perish bc of Bibi’s gov actions”.

@MEChristianView @Traktec1147871 @shcendo @VerminusM 2.2 million people voted for Hamas. Hamas didn't attack Israel alone. Other terrorist organizations joined them as did "civilians". When Jews escaped, it was the "innocent civilians" who recaptured them. After all this war, polls show Gaza would re-elect Hamas.

From 1948 to 1967, the Arabs had absolute control over Gaza and the West Bank. Why wasn't a Palestinian state created in this period?

Normal person: Genocide is bad. Israel supporter: Just say you hate Jews. Normal person: I oppose Zionism. Israel supporter: Jews. You mean Jews. Say Jews. Normal person: The Israel lobby is causing problems. Israel supporter: Jews Jews Jews Jews Jewy Jew Jews. Normal person: But I don't mean Jews. I'm expressing specific grievances against a specific state, its backers, and the political ideology it is premised upon. I judge people based on their individual actions, not on their religion. Israel supporter: JEWWWWWWS. Normal person: You realize you're doing the exact same thing neo-Nazis do, right? You're conflating all Jews with everything bad about Israel and the forces which give rise to its abuses. Israel supporter: It is antisemitic to conflate all Jews with the actions of Israel. Normal person: Then why do you keep conflating all Jews with the actions of Israel? Israel supporter: Because it is antisemitic not to conflate all Jews with the actions of Israel.

@manway613 @EretzIsrael That negative feeling your people felt is the same feeling Palestinians feel when people don’t consider them “real”. The point isn’t weak, it’s based on truth, and you should accept it considering Jews went through thr same thing before getting an identity+state.

@manway613 @EretzIsrael Weak? Maybe you should revise your history. When the Jews were without a homeland for a long time, many didn’t like and excluded them as members of society. I’m sure that felt terrible. It’s one of the main reasons for Zionism. Jews were tired of being bossed by foreigners.

@JonAlden1620 @beyond_capital This is propaganda to justify ethnic cleansing. Do better.

@TimurZuev86303 @EretzIsrael You almost got it. You’re right but the original poster @EretzIsrael is trying to delegitimize the Palestinian claim to the land, just because they did not have a clear nationality yet. My point was that people don’t have to be officially labelled in order to exist.

@MEChristianView @EretzIsrael The same you can say about Jordan and Syria, man. British and Franch made borders and countries for Arabised mix of Lrvant people. So what?

@manway613 @EretzIsrael You missed the point.

@MEChristianView @EretzIsrael The Jews who lived there under the League of Nations mandate decided to name their country “Israel”. But you don’t care about history, right?

@jalistairclone @Traktec1147871 @shcendo @VerminusM I condemn Hamas’ Oct 7. But 2.2 million people shouldn’t be penalized for their actions (also remember Gazans≠Hamas). Just like Israelis shouldn’t be penalized for Ben-Gvir’s actions, or Americans shouldn’t be penalized for Trump’s actions. See what I mean?

@MEChristianView @Traktec1147871 @shcendo @VerminusM It does when you consider the fact that the Gazans had their own nation, with rather nice cities, along with zero IDF in their nation, and then they invaded Israel on Oct 7th. They are still fighting to this day.

@P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz Jews were known as Palestinians, correct. Muslims were Christians and before that were Jews from the same land. (Assimilation + DNA tests prove this) Therefore, modern day Palestinians and Jews are the SAME. Both are indigenous.

@MEChristianView @EretzIsrael @eretz Arafat invented the Arab ‘Palestinian people’ identity in 1964 in an effort to claim land so Jews couldn’t have it. Jews were the people known as Palestinians for centuries because Palestine was the name given to the Land of Israel by the Romans after they conquered it.

@P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz True but Palestinians have DNA ties to the Holy Land. Why is that so hard to understand? Palestinian Muslims were Christians and before that were Jews from that leans.

@MEChristianView @EretzIsrael @eretz There is no historical ancient ‘Palestinian people’ identity.

@bizerd34 @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael Why are you moving the goalposts? You’re right that Christian % is dropping a lot which is sad. It doesn’t help when governments don’t protect their people. But please stay on topic.

@MEChristianView @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael As a Christian, you know better than anyone, Bet-Lehem was over 80% Christian when Israel ran it 30 yrs ago; then they made a treaty with the evil PA who now runs it. Today it is over 85% Muslim.

@KarlstromDan @P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz I’m not moving the goalpost. I used a map of Lebanon bc it articulated my point. (It wasn’t perfect I agree) I already answered you - the differences are DNA. You are trying to group them together so that you can conveniently tell the Arabs of Palestine to just go to Jordan.

@MEChristianView @P3ng1z @EretzIsrael @eretz You are moving the goalpost. We are talking about the same people with the same religion and cultural background. Anyone remembering Pan-Arabism? What exactly make the Palestinians in Jordan (a border made up by the British) different from the Palestinians in the West-Bank?

@SheilaGreenfiel @lancevideos How can you be sure?

@MEChristianView @lancevideos In 1900 there were 600k people living there in an area the size of New Jersey. If you calculate birthrate, they same number and their descendants more than make up the descendants of those there in 1900.

@bizerd34 @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael The Levant countries were formed around the same time but you don’t see people call Egyptians or Syrians fake. Why do you call Palestinians fake but not Israelis? Neither are fake. The aboriginals in Americas didn’t have independence/king/common language. So they didn’t exist?

@MEChristianView @Steveevans909 @EretzIsrael 1 people is real 1 people is fake There has never been an independent Arab State, never a language, never a king, the other is praying in the same language, same place for millennia; it's religious text is all over the world. A false comparison & it is time for the lies to end!

@jalistairclone @Traktec1147871 @shcendo @VerminusM My account is one of the very few that wants to defend people first and foremost. The context lately has me favouring one group. The underlying theme is this: Zionism is fine BUT not at the expense of others. If I defend the Pali cause it doesn’t mean I’m anti-Jew.

@Traktec1147871 @MEChristianView @shcendo @VerminusM As it always is.

@SheilaGreenfiel @lancevideos It’s true that Arabs immigrated to Palestine, especially for work/economic opportunities. However there was already a sizeable population there, from the 3 religions. Fast forward to today, some Palestinians descend from the immigrants, while most are originally from the land.

There is no DNA specific enough to pinpoint exactly where in the Levant Levantine Arabs are from. There are no cultural or linguistic markers that separated Palestinian from Jordanian. Jews have indigeneity to a specific location by virtue of archeology, historical knowledge, continuous presence in the land, a religion and culture whose center is geographically located in Jerusalem. Those who call themselves Palestinians cannot make these claims. In 1900, 3/4 of the Arabs there lived as tenants. They did not own the land. It was owned by Effende, elites in other capitols. The Arabs moved around the Levant and Egypt for work. When Jews started building in the area, migrant workers from surrounding Arab states began to drive in droves. There was no place to house them and reports of the day complained they were sleeping in the streets. There is not a good way to know which Arabs had multi-generational ties to the land. Israel has tried to keep those with known last names where they lived. Those that had been there for a couple of years don't have claims.