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@GFFN He's not wrong. Saliba makes quite a lot of errors. Said for time that Gabriel (as of now) is the better CB.

@saiwutuwheel @head_shoulders2 @Sargon_of_Akkad Yes they're called White English or White British. They're literally a protected cohort within many public services and institutions 👍

@Man0nEarth @head_shoulders2 @Sargon_of_Akkad Set aside the insults if you are capable of it. Does a term exist for the traditional native English population or have you simply erased them? Do you do the same to non European ethnicities?

They are ridiculous on purpose to humiliate us.

@Jimmyrinse1 @saiwutuwheel @head_shoulders2 @NickCatling1 @Sargon_of_Akkad And there it is.

@saiwutuwheel @head_shoulders2 @NickCatling1 @Man0nEarth @Sargon_of_Akkad To be fair he's South African South Africa people are white The blacks just came when they heard it was awesome Then they ruined it

@saiwutuwheel @head_shoulders2 @Sargon_of_Akkad So you're not a racist - just a massive pedant? I won't let perfect be the enemy of good.

@head_shoulders2 @Man0nEarth @Sargon_of_Akkad Unless you have English ancestry you're not English. Few would call Tolkien an African or Bantu. He was legally a citizen of the Orange Free State but had English ancestry. To suggest that he was African, Bantu or Zulu wouldn't be accepted by most people today.

@saiwutuwheel @Sargon_of_Akkad Who fucking cares? Is he a decent bloke doing something great? Yes.

@Man0nEarth @Sargon_of_Akkad He's arguably British or a citizen of the UK not English. Is there any legal paperwork defining him as English? I doubt it.

@lukestanley03 AI pic or not. Joke or not. This is the truly bleak side of 115. It isn't about Liverpool and Arsenal. Every club's fans in the country have been denied special days and moments as a result of monopolistic sportswashing. Two teams compete today that are cheats. Nobody cares.

Wembley trip number 32 for me 👍🏻

@_henrytreasure_ @AmosMurphy_ All well and good. That just isn't how its managed. Officials have allowed such blocking, grappling at set pieces (not GK arm holds) as otherwise reffing these moments is impossible. They saw them and judged they were not fouls. If people want consistency, they provided it.

@Man0nEarth @AmosMurphy_ because if the first foul is punished how it should be in real time and the ref blows his whistle and gives it then the foul on raya happens while the ball is dead and therefore irrelevant

Ironclad proof VAR should be nowhere near football. What a complete shambles.

@_henrytreasure_ @AmosMurphy_ You can't grab a GKs arm while he is catching. Even if someone is 'holding' you. You just can't. That's the clearest foul and the most impactful foul, and the ref missed it. The day AFC score a goal with a player holding a GKs arm like that as they try to catch, let's talk.

@Man0nEarth @AmosMurphy_ anyway this discussion is pointless as ofc you will defend arsenal no matter what which is fair enough but I just think it’s an extremely harsh decision on West Ham that could cost them massively in the relegation battle and they’ve got every right to feel hard done by

@Jarvmarda10 @RedMarrow_ You can't grab a goalies arm 🙏👍

@Man0nEarth @RedMarrow_ Well when you jump you hold your arms out for balance they don't stay by your side. If Pablo jumps unimped he has a free header

What this shows is (and it's evident from real-time experience as well) that the VAR and refs already make up their minds regarding certain situations, and they then spend the next 5 minutes justifying them. This itself contradicts their 'clear and obvious error' VAR mandate, as you don't need 5 minutes for clear and obvious errors. The clip begins with "Possible foul on the keeper," and they got so tunnel-visioned into willing it into existence that they disregarded everything else happening in the box. Incompetence rather than corruption, imo.

@UnitedRo4d @nqatpod Everyone does it so the refs have to ignore it unless it impacts the ball. This didn't. Anyone who had that exact goal stand against them would be absolutely fuming, and you all know it.

@nqatpod Unless it’s on arsenals keeper

REF: I don’t think there’s much in that at all, I’m happy with that. VAR: Yeah, OK. REF: That’s nothing.

@Jarvmarda10 @RedMarrow_ They didn't see it that way. They haven't seen it that way all season. You can't hold the arm of a keeper playing the ball I am afraid. This is pure derangement 😂

@Man0nEarth @RedMarrow_ I want the VAR to keep looking at Trossard from the beginning before the ball gets to Raya. Trossard clearly pushes Pablo into Raya fishing for contact

@_henrytreasure_ @AmosMurphy_ Are you serious? The ball is usually the single point of analysis re a foul. E.g. 'did he get any of the ball?' 'Who got the ball first?' Raya was playing the ball and was unafirly prevented from doing so by a clear foul the ref missed. He saw the others and wasn't moved.

@Man0nEarth @AmosMurphy_ No I mean can’t, as in you can and it won’t be given, since when did fouls start getting prioritised on vicinity to the ball? The fact that raya is fouled closer to the ball doesn’t overrule the fact that rice/gabriel/trossard all committed fouls in the box, foul in the box = pen

@NOTLFCJ__ He was told straight away and explicitly that the review was for a foul on the GK. He wasn't sure about anything else as none of it was clear and obvious. They told him anyway and they cleared it as per consistent application last two years.

He doesn’t need to explain it. I think most people are ok with it being a foul. He needs to explain why we see 15 of these incidents a week and only certain ones are being called fouls. The on field ref didn’t even know what he was looking at when he went to the VAR monitor ffs

@NOTLFCJ__ @AfcWill10 They are given when egregious and/or have a matetial impact on the outcome. Been consistent all year on that. They didn't think Rice or Trossard met that. Pablo 100% did.

@AfcWill10 Forget this specific incident, that was a foul. I’m talking about the general nonsense we see at corners every week when some are given and some aren’t

@markgoldbridge @Rory_Talks_Ball Weasel words. Your first issue was apparently incosistency in that specifically Arsenal 'get away with the same thing'. Now you are calm and accept that is bollocks you have found a different (non) issue - the process. You and your overlords just want a finale where AFC choke.

@Rory_Talks_Ball This is a VAR issue Rory. Take your Arsenal hat off, watch what he was shown. He got hardly any of the Trossard incident, and was shown the Raya foul first. He made the right choice based on what he was shown.

Just listened to the VAR audio from Arsenal vs West Ham. Feel sorry for the ref tbh. They review it, highlight two issues, then get him over, don't show him the full incidents and don't show it in order. Based on what he saw he makes the right call

@JamieAA_Again @markgoldbridge @Rory_Talks_Ball The objective reality is you can't grip onto a keepers arm as he's literally playing the ball.

@markgoldbridge @Rory_Talks_Ball His Arsenal hat is welded onto his head Mark... there is no objective reality with Gooners... they are totally delusional, delirious at finally looking like they are going to win something even if they did it purely by cheating.

@_henrytreasure_ @AmosMurphy_ Do you mean can? It is false to say that prioritising fouls that have a largest material impact on outcome at setpieces sets a precedent for any 'off ball' foul. We all know the difference.

@Man0nEarth @AmosMurphy_ so you can’t foul a player now if they’re not near the ball? That’s a very dangerous precedent to set…

@Harry_Buckley17 Because he released him just after the kick was taken and Donnaruma was completely free to challenge for the ball, unimpeded. Nice try though. 3 days later this is the best you've got?!

We conceded this earlier in the season and it got allowed

@_henrytreasure_ @AmosMurphy_ It doesn't matter because of this thing called a football and where the football was. Have you ueard of the football? Took them one replay and 40 seconds to see it was a clear foul on the only player who got close to ball contact. Theb they faffed about.

@AmosMurphy_ Massive cock up from VAR, diverts the ref away from even considering the foul from Rice