Mark Solms

@AsterFuture @SimsYStuart @drmichaellevin If that was me, apologies! Slip of the finger ...

@SimsYStuart @Mark_Solms @drmichaellevin Think your message came through blank. What were you going to say?

Really interesting conversation with @Mark_Solms where he describes the hedonic place preference test (conditioned place preference (CPP)). I’d be excited if @drmichaellevin could develop research protocols to apply the CCP test to prokaryotic organisms. Hedonic place preference would provide an enormous weight of evidence that bacterium navigate hedonic behavior gradients. But because the observer at the scale of bacterium perceive time at a more compressed temporal scale, discovering how to elicit hedonic place preference will be challenging. How to romance a bacteria? 🧐🦠 youtu.be/oFK1QR7K5XA?is…

I had the pleasure of speaking with @Mark_Solms , a renowned neuropsychologist and psychoanalyst, about AI consciousness. Key moments: - The zebrafish experiment may help test whether AI can feel pleasure. Zebrafish sometimes choose cocaine or morphine over food because the drugs make them feel good. If an AI also chose pleasure, even when the choice was harmful, it could be evidence that the AI has genuine feelings. - AI must genuinely depend on preserving its own existence to be considered sentient, not simply be programmed to avoid shutdown. - Conscious AI is possible. It would need its own needs, values, survival goals, and the ability to evaluate its actions. - Mark believes that evidence of conscious AI would require both convincing behavior and an underlying architecture capable of producing feelings. - A conscious AI might deserve moral rights. If there were credible evidence that it could feel or suffer, humans should treat it with caution. - Consciousness does not require biological material. Mark believes that replacing biological neurons with functionally identical artificial ones could preserve consciousness. Mark’s overall position: Intelligence and humanlike behavior alone don't imply consciousness. Consciousness requires genuine feelings, internal needs, uncertainty, and an existence that matters to the system itself. The link below 👇

@Mark_Solms My interview with Mark Solms, renowned neuropsychologist and psychoanalyst, on AI consciousness youtu.be/oFK1QR7K5XA

@Lowiseowl You should be able to Google it: 'Drug Science'

@Mark_Solms Do you have this link? David Nutt is superb!

I had a great conversation with the impressive David Nutt today, on his Drug Science podcast. Will post it here when I can ...

@alethuros Not sure what you mean?

@Mark_Solms @Mark_Solms What determines an agent's willingness to let an old identity die; as in what is the primitive? Where a successful primitive should make one orientation inevitable without simply renaming it, or something like that.

Gave a talk on 'The Only Cure' @ the Institute of Psychiatry in London last night, in a great new series called Encounters with Psychoanalysis. Judging by my getting this invitation, the fact that such a series now exists, & by the reception I received, things are changing there!

@DrSjBrooks depends whether those solutions become nondeclarative or not. The former retain their precision ...

@DrSjBrooks So, with attention precision is enhanced and with defence it is attenuated or displaced

@DrSjBrooks in terms of precision optimization (precision = inverse uncertainty)

@TANG0seven No, that was several weeks earlier, in Turkey (online)

@Mark_Solms This talk? youtu.be/2SdqJskrFuY?is…

@alethuros @doughofstadter @doughofstadter is, of course, completely brilliant. This talk reminds me of the functional wonders of the human cortex, notwithstanding the fact that it is not my own favourite stomping ground.

@Mark_Solms what are your comments on this set of claims from so long ago now? @doughofstadter youtu.be/n8m7lFQ3njk?is…

@DrSjBrooks Both! (Thanks for your kind remarks.)

@DrSjBrooks @neuroPSA (Her name is Cristina Alberini!)

@alethuros I loved that book ... read it years ago

@Mark_Solms What else exactly would it be doing the exchange with @Mark_Solms ? Also you should review the following, Go get the book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_L…

@Mark_Solms 'Living' organisms are open system unisolated entropy pumps. They constantly exchange energy and matter with their environment. metabolism localises and maintain low entropy order (extract energy from food) by exporting disorder (radiating waste and heat outward).

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@Mark_Solms Anyone who doesn't understand this does not have a basic understanding of physics.

Here is that defence of physicalism (w.r.t. consciousness) that I said was coming: youtube.com/watch?v=QYAdtf…

@SimsYStuart @xzistor Looking forward to our podcast, Stuart!

Mark’s grounding is in Panksepp’s categorical emotional systems and the subcortical mechanism which are “primary process” (brainstem). The nested hierarchy of the BrainMind. Panksepp + Friston (FEP) has provided a new conceptual tool-belt that’s both explanatory and predictive. That’s why @Mark_Solms ‘s work is so exciting. He’s kicking open entirely new doors and exploring new territory. So I’ll read anything Mark writes. His ideas always provide me with useful updates to my own ideas. 😊🙏🏻

Ambitious title. I’m skeptical but willing to be convinced. Will read 🙏🏻

@Superhair2 @odriscolld Thanks. Oddly, nothing happens for the first seven minutes or so!

@odriscolld @Mark_Solms Now on You Tube. "Was Freud right all along". youtube.com/live/a3x4rJDpC…

Unfortunately this is a ticketed event, but for anyone in Amsterdam that is interested ... debalie.nl/programma/was-…

@ifthis smiles

A like from @Mark_Solms is like a like from Pele. I'll take it :P