Migrant_Mick

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Migrant_Mick

Migrant_Mick

@Migrant_Mick

“...agus cad faoi na Feirmeoirí Beaga, surrah?” 🇳🇬Luimneach Abú!🇳🇬

Limerick, Ireland Katılım Ocak 2016
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Mick Maguire
Mick Maguire@MutedIrish·
@danobrien20 She's already tackled this in her article if you bothered to read it.
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Dan O'Brien
Dan O'Brien@danobrien20·
Why this chart is wrong. Five metrics are used to measure 'infrastructure and public services', as per the first image, which shows Ireland to be a total outlier. Start with public capital spending as share of total govt expenditure. (Unfortunately) rich world governments spend only single digit percentages of total government expenditure on capital spending. As it happens, Ireland has the highest share in western Europe. The actual Eurostat data are charted in the second image. What about doctor density? Unlike public expenditure, where I'd claim some expertise, I'm certainly not an expert in health economics. But I've spent enough time looking at the numbers over the years to know that Ireland is not an outlier in the number of doctors it has relative population. Even the OECD healthcare at a glance report that is referenced as a source shows that. The table from the report is the third image. Finally, Ireland has almost no electrified rail. These figures seem correct, but is the energy source of your rail system indicative of the quality of overall infrastructure? I'd argue no, but that's a judgement call. So, two of the five metrics are completely wrong and the inclusion of a third (which happens to show Ireland by far the worst performer in west Europe) is questionable.
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Sinéad O’Sullivan@SineadOS1

The protests in Ireland are not about just fuel! They are about the distance between Ireland on this graph and every other modern and developed economy. Ireland is second wealthiest but gets waaaaay less than any other country for that wealth. By a golden mile. That visual gap in this graph? That’s what people are protesting. It’s a lack of infrastructure and the everyday enshittification of services, the economy, and the additional difficulty of trying to live, relative to peers in any other country. It also highlights why people don’t get uniformly listened to! - because there is no government architecture to engage meaningfully across this huge gap. That gap is a three hour drive to work in traffic, a 14 month wait for an MRI, buses that don’t arrive, trains that don’t exist, schools that have no places for your kids, houses that are unaffordable, pubs that close before midnight, €12 sandwiches, expensive fuel. People feel this gap, even if they can’t explain it precisely. And that builds into resentment, and ultimately protest. Fuel just happened to be the next thing that could be pointed to, today.

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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@KayakerTurbo @danobrien20 Ireland was still losing population in the early 90s while those peer countries were well developed. Ireland really has had only 30 years of development. Except for the decade of growth in the 90s Ireland barely escaped tge 19th century.
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TurboKayaker
TurboKayaker@KayakerTurbo·
@danobrien20 Walk around any big city in Europe and compare its infrastructure to what you have in Dublin. Do you not want better for Irish kids? Do you think pretending what we have now is good will get us there?
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@LochlainnJoyce @danobrien20 Sure, while Ireland may have a high capital-spending share by comparative to its peers, that share is still drawn from the budget of a state whose overall spending remains low.
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Lochlainn Joyce 🇮🇪
Lochlainn Joyce 🇮🇪@LochlainnJoyce·
@danobrien20 "rich world governments spend only single digit percentages of total government expenditure on capital spending. As it happens, Ireland has the highest share in western Europe." Thats the problem. What do we get for that high level of spending?
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Irish Dads for Air Quality in Schools(Cork Branch)
@danobrien20 Speaking of the OECD did you see the major report on the massive ongoing economic impact of long Covid there last week reported in the Financial Times, the Irish Times, Irish Medical Times, Bloomberg, Euronews?. but not RTE/Newstalk/Virgin, not mentioned by any Irish politician
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@Randomicky @JohnR082 @danobrien20 You could say that every Irish person still aspires to a cottage and a plot of land. One need only look at the ribbon development along every Irish rural road.
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@Hairy_Lurcher @danobrien20 The whole point is that Ireland is not nearly as "rich" as people casually assume. Nor does it have the long developmental track of many of ts EU peers . It is constrained both by the economy’s limited capacity to absorbadditional spending and by the fiscal rules imposed by EU
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the lurcher
the lurcher@Hairy_Lurcher·
If you want to argue Sinéad is wrong please have the courtesy to tag her so she can reply Whether she is or not Sinéad has hit upon something that we all feel - we are told we are one of the richest countries on earth - yet we do not seem to have the infrastructure and services to match? Why? Where the hell does all the money go? (We know where actually) Why does everything we try to build cost more and take longer? (We know that too) David McWilliams was right this week - we could be one of the worst run countries in the western world
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Data data everywhere. It’s interesting to consider in 1960s Hong Kong, John Cowperthwaite slashed taxes & deliberately limited official economic data. He knew bureaucrats & politicians would twist the stats into demands for subsidies, planning & interventions that distort markets. They had explosive organic growth, low taxes, no heavy meddling. Ireland has 20%/40% income tax & USC up to 8% & PRSI ~4.35%. We have record revenues and high levels of meddling by politicians and civil setvice and many feel poor value in services & infrastructure. That is the reality, call it the vibe. So maybe the data is not on point, you reference, the outliner did look rather too much of an outlier, but spending other peoples money on other people means little to no accountability. Abundant data fuels exactly the “remedies” Cowperthwaite feared, which is more spending, higher burden, weaker outcomes. It would be good to try his way. Lower taxes, less data, and more freedom to deliver better results. Currently Ireland is diametrically off that trajectory. Markets self-correct faster than planners.
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@AoifeEccles @danobrien20 @SineadOS1 I would prefer something a little more substantial than a dubious graph published on their Substack, or here on X, the celebrated citadel of rigorous, erudite and considered scholarship🤪
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Aoife Eccles
Aoife Eccles@AoifeEccles·
Have a read for yourself. Sinéad expanded on her methodology and provided all direct EU data sources. Link below. I think you may just dislike the truth Sinéad’s work reveals. I for one am enthralled by her captivating narrative of outlining EXACTLY why her result rings true for anyone who has truly experienced life in Ireland. Could not recommend anything more for anyone interested in understanding why the fuel protests are so pivotal.
Aoife Eccles@AoifeEccles

Sinéad O’Sullivan for Taoiseach! This brilliant woman schooled Leo Varadkar on X two days ago by out pacing him in economics. She’s Harvard/MIT. Since her post went viral and begrudged people have tried to debunk her method, she wrote this piece showing how she came to the result showing Ireland being the worst EU country by infrastructure/services against being the wealthiest of all on paper. Moreover, she captures the crux of what is currently happening in Ireland while educating us all on the continued failure of our inept government. Really great read. butthistime.com/p/mind-the-gap

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Dan O'Brien
Dan O'Brien@danobrien20·
This chart has gone viral, but the much of the data it uses are simply wrong. Explained below. FWIW, I have no issues with the opinions expressed by its author @SineadOS1 and her publishing her data and methodology shows she is not deliberately attempting to mislead.
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Dan O'Brien@danobrien20

Why this chart is wrong. Five metrics are used to measure 'infrastructure and public services', as per the first image, which shows Ireland to be a total outlier. Start with public capital spending as share of total govt expenditure. (Unfortunately) rich world governments spend only single digit percentages of total government expenditure on capital spending. As it happens, Ireland has the highest share in western Europe. The actual Eurostat data are charted in the second image. What about doctor density? Unlike public expenditure, where I'd claim some expertise, I'm certainly not an expert in health economics. But I've spent enough time looking at the numbers over the years to know that Ireland is not an outlier in the number of doctors it has relative population. Even the OECD healthcare at a glance report that is referenced as a source shows that. The table from the report is the third image. Finally, Ireland has almost no electrified rail. These figures seem correct, but is the energy source of your rail system indicative of the quality of overall infrastructure? I'd argue no, but that's a judgement call. So, two of the five metrics are completely wrong and the inclusion of a third (which happens to show Ireland by far the worst performer in west Europe) is questionable.

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Eochu Ollathair
Eochu Ollathair@TheDagda___·
@danobrien20 @SineadOS1 If it was right, what should happen? Do you think in those circumstances that could be called abject corrupt failure?
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@HelenDuignan2 @KMGEsp @SineadOS1 Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, southern Italy then? Because Ireland is simply not comparable to the Dutch, Danes, Norwegians, or Swedes, states with deep rooted wealth, seasoned administrative capacity, and more than a century of industrialisation, with Norway further buoyed by oil
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brian
brian@SligoBrian1994·
You explained three elements you believed to be wrong, here's why you don't know what you're talking about 1) Public capex being high now means we have identified existing under built infra and are trying to catch up, this reinforces Sineads point about how people feel right now
Dan O'Brien@danobrien20

This chart has gone viral, but the much of the data it uses are simply wrong. Explained below. FWIW, I have no issues with the opinions expressed by its author @SineadOS1 and her publishing her data and methodology shows she is not deliberately attempting to mislead.

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Na Fianna ✙ 🇮🇪
Na Fianna ✙ 🇮🇪@NaFianna101·
I really have the sense we are headed for civil war in Ireland. The vote of no confidence has failed. Garda have stated any furter blockages of roads will be dealt will swiftly and harshly. If the people can't exercise democracy or be allowed to protest and be heard and listened to. What options are you leaving them with? This government should resign and they are clinging on to power like the parasites they are. Along with todays news of another one of our nationalised banks being sold to a foreign entity. We are still footing the bill for bailing out banks we don't even own as a country anymore.
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@DavQuinn Hate to beak it to you, Dave. But you're about as popular as yer man🤪🤣😅
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Migrant_Mick
Migrant_Mick@Migrant_Mick·
@Nick_Delehanty "lipstick on a pig" is an unusual phrasing in a🤔 Hiberno-English context🤪
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Nick Delehanty 🇮🇪
Nick Delehanty 🇮🇪@Nick_Delehanty·
Every year the asylum bill grows by ~€1.4billion. The only way to solve this is to push back against the ECHR & to stop people arriving from Belfast. Everything else is lipstick on a pig.
Nick Delehanty 🇮🇪@Nick_Delehanty

Every week ~180 to 270 new people arrive to feed the Emergency Accommodation industry. Each arrival will cost the taxpayer €122,000. This means each year the taxpayer is being saddled with €1.46billion in extra taxes.

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Chumponabike
Chumponabike@chumponabike·
@robggill Ireland did nothing based on a chart that excludes refugee housing, welfare, schools and healthcare costs while also using Ireland’s famously distorted GDP figure is pretty weak analysis If you have to ignore half the spending to make your point, maybe the point isn’t very good.
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RGill
RGill@robggill·
The reason I was suspicious of protests - before the emergence of far-right/culture warrior element - was because the spokespeople went straight to blaming Ukraine, general foreign aid & immigrants - not concerns of typical farmer. This chart shows the truth (IRE very bottom)
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TheJournal.ie
TheJournal.ie@thejournal_ie·
Sinéad O’Sullivan: The protests aren't just about fuel, they're a revolt against a hollow state... jrnl.ie/7011572
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