
Numbers Man
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@ThinkLicence @SaferRoadsYorks A question for those bystanders and the police I guess, but aren't pedestrians also worthy of being checked for?
If SRY were a bystander would they satisfy themselves that no riders, peds were involved and then walk away I wonder - no VRUs, check, nothing to see here!
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@NumbersMan3 @SaferRoadsYorks When looking at photos of cars or bigger in ditches, or partly submerged in rivers, having gone off the road, I have often wondered how quickly bystanders or the police checked for evidence of a bicycle being involved, and looked under the vehicle.
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@thisisyourparty @StevenJMethven @novaramedia From your post of yesterday -"One woman says all she did was clap"
So you're just accepting the word of one person and then applying it to "people" ie more than one person.
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Your Party@thisisyourparty
Police arrested 152 people outside Westminster Magistrates’ Court. 134 under a terrorism law carrying fourteen years. One woman says all she did was clap. Britain now polices applause
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They arrested people for clapping outside a courthouse.
A Labour government used terrorism powers against its own people for opposing a genocide.
Andy Burnham inherited it and kept it. Here is the story by @StevenJMethven for @novaramedia
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@SarahLudford Really the majority? Based upon what research - your ancedotal observation?
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Few even stop at red lights, let alone stop for pedestrians waiting at a pedestrian crossing. It used to be a minority of cyclists who behaved like that, but now it’s the majority.
calmdown@MJNorman5
@SarahLudford @CanalRiverTrust Cyclists, whether they are riding, should give way to pedestrians.
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@ThinkLicence @SaferRoadsYorks I guess most people driving past that might think "I hope no one was injured or killed in that"
But SRY's implication is "never mind any drivers/passengers so long as any peds, cyclists, riders were OK"
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@SaferRoadsYorks We are often asked not to speculate, but…open top BMW, rear wheel drive, after a bend in the road. Am I possibly correct?
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@NumbersMan3 @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick The simple fact is that you know the answer but it causes you cognitive dissonance, so you prefer to avoid thinking about it.
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I’ve been repaying my #studentloan for 10 years. I graduated owing £26,000. Today I owe £28,000. I pay £190 a month through my salary, but £220 is added in monthly interest. I’m paying every month, yet the balance keeps increasing. How is that fair?
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@CitizenUddin I suspect that there may be some who tell you that being hit by a bicycle is more than a mild inconvenience - unfortunately there are others who can't tell you that because the impact killed them.
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Risk Assessment (Physics Edition):
🚲 Cyclist (70kg + bike @ 8mph): ~450 Joules of kinetic energy. Mild inconvenience, zero real harm.
🚗 SUV (2,000kg @ red light speed): 100,000+ Joules of kinetic energy. Categorically lethal.
Yet people will blame the cyclist every single time
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@ThinkLicence @tickderpin @Dorrit2014 *Fines and costs*
The fine is no more than £1000, and the rationale for the costs is in the CPS link.
Looks like the fine could have been £800 or £450 - but I'm no expert in this other than knowing the maximum fine.
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Not good, not good behaviour at all, overtaking the nearest motor vehicle proceeding to a pedestrian crossing, with an oncoming vehicle to add to the mix.
#WWWYPD?
£1200 fine?


Think of your licence@ThinkLicence
Whilst prepping video for the police of a motorcyclist overtaking the lead vehicle at a crossing, I noticed this not so lovely event. Admire how the driver then cut the corner & ignored Highway Code H2; the cyclist did well, & cornered well. I’ll hint that the police take action.
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@ThinkLicence @tickderpin @Dorrit2014 The max *fine* is £1000.
Costs are seemingly those involved in prosecuting the case - unrelated to the actual offence.
gov.uk/guidance/the-h…
cps.gov.uk/prosecution-gu…
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@ThinkLicence @tickderpin @Dorrit2014 It's the seeming dismissal of the offence of RLJ as not really worth bothering with if it's "safe" that I'm seeking to clarify.
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@ThinkLicence @Dorrit2014 Lame. I usually agree with your takes but I see this case as akin to reporting a cyclist for a safely executed RLJ.
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@ThinkLicence @tickderpin @Dorrit2014 I don't think anyone knows what the fine was, but as the max for careless cycling is £1000 it's unlikely to be £1200.
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@tickderpin @Dorrit2014 I should hate to continue to be seen as lame, perhaps a snippet of real time video might change your mind. Overtaking on crossings is forbidden in order to protect straggling peds.
A cyclist has been fined £1200 for confronting oncoming vehicles like this, but not on a crossing.
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@UmarFKhawaja @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick You're asking me to speculate as to why certain people did certain things.
If you know the answer feel free to post it.
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@UmarFKhawaja @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick "Why does this same thinking not apply to salaries and wages?" doesn't have a numerical answer!
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@NumbersMan3 @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick Don’t have number to hand, do you, Numbers Man?
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@UmarFKhawaja @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick I suppose you'd have to ask the people who offer the salaries and those who accept them.
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@NumbersMan3 @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick Why does this same thinking not apply to salaries and wages?
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@ThinkLicence @andrewbanks "Don't walk under ladders because the inattentive person on them may drop a hammer on your head" isn't a threat.
Neither is "don't step onto a zebra (as is your right) if the approaching cyclist is riding no handed and texting"!
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@ThinkLicence @andrewbanks There's rights, responsibilities and the often overlooked common sense.
I wouldn't dream of cycling to the right (or left) of a vehicle indicating right (or left)
Self preservation comes first.
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@andrewbanks An indicator does not give the right to then turn across the path of another, especially a ‘vulnerable road user’.
Neither is blameless in this situation, but the driver bears more responsibility. Highway Code stuff here –


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@UmarFKhawaja @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick Average (some courses, for example more equipment intensive) £7,300 in 2010 - £11,600 in today's money.
bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-polic…
channel4.com/news/factcheck…
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@NumbersMan3 @ThinkLicence @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick You have also overstated them by declaring that it will cost £10K per pupil per year to impart university education.
We started in 2006 with £3000 and are at £9250 in 2026.
What hasn’t grown this rapidly are salaries, so I guess these can also go back to 1998 levels: £1000.
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@ThinkLicence @UmarFKhawaja @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick I've actually overstated them by including Scotland which accounts for about 10% of student numbers - so I'll revise my £20bn to £18bn which is about £700 per household.
It would be a material number to go on general taxation.
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@SaferRoadsYorks @wyorkscycling Opening for me but why they're putting up stuff published in March 25 as an update in July 26 is a little puzzling.
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@wyorkscycling Link not opening for me for some reason...
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📊 Incident Statistics update: Calderdale rises to 35 incidents, closing in on Bradford on 43. 116 total recorded incidents. Course fees now £11,200. Grand Total Revenue: £11,600. 🚴
westyorkshirecycling.co.uk/2025/03/14/sta…
#Calderdale #WestYorkshire #OperationSnap
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@UmarFKhawaja @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick @ThinkLicence I think Mr Burnham would have to come up with a slightly more detailed proposal if he wanted to offer university education free at the point of use.
(There are 1.6m full time and 0.5m p/t UK students so at £10k and £7k that's almost £20bn on tuition)
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@NumbersMan3 @Ryanjohnhruw @CarlLaverick @ThinkLicence Costs £10 billion a year, mate.
It’s not that deep. They waste more money than that on beer and chips.
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