Kyle Johnson
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Kyle Johnson
@OrigensAdvocate
"The true soldiers of Christ must always be prepared to do battle for the truth, and must never, so far as lies with them, allow false convictions to creep in."
Idaho, USA Katılım Ekim 2021
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@jigsawearth_860 @LDS_Dems No, i don't think his point is valid.
It is literally a political argument.
And no, he didn't say that at all.
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@OrigensAdvocate @LDS_Dems He’s not the one being obtuse. You think that his point is valid because it has a quasi-political sentiment at the end with the whole infinite immigrants thing. What he’s saying is “I don’t like immigrants, therefore I don’t care if they’re harmed, and I will pay extra for that”
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There is a great book called Dying of Whiteness that posits that white americans will deliberately choose policies that create self harm as long as they believe people they don't like are being harmed as well.
For example:
Pay Roll Manager Here@UsingLyft
Gas could be $8/gallon and we could go to war for 3 years I’m still voting against the infinity immigrants party who want to turn America into Hondurastan.
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@ZoeInTheory @LDS_Dems You got it! His point, as you just described, is that he believes the damage Trump is doing is less severe than the damage he thinks the left would do.
I'm not saying it's a good point, but rather than lie about his motivations, address what he actually said.
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@OrigensAdvocate @LDS_Dems Then what point IS he making? He's literally describing two concrete, bad options and stating that he would prefer those options to two things that he made up and literally will not ever happen.
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@LDS_Dems Don't be obtuse. You make some good points against MAGA, so I know you are smarter than this.
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@OrigensAdvocate That is exactly the point he is making. He doesn't mind personal pain as long as people he doesn't like suffer
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@DennisBowden18 I've read the letter.
He acknowledged that BY taught it.
He said BY was wrong.
He did not say members should not find out.
On the contrary, "this does not mean individuals should not do research or make discoveries"
He did say members should not teach these ideas as true.
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@OrigensAdvocate In private correspondence with Eugene England, Elder McConkie did a few things:
- Acknowledged that BY taught it
- Said it was important that members not find out
- Said that BY was wrong
Current apologists typically say none but the last of this matters.
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@ColonelMike80 @stackerco Fortunately, in the modern age, finding records of deeper discussions is easier than ever.
I think it is the responsibility of the members who are ready for the meat to seek it out themselves.
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@ColonelMike80 @stackerco I'm a younger lifelong member, but I agree. I love reading older talks because they are so much deeper.
I think as the church has accelerated it's growth, especially in less educated areas of the world, public addresses have has to stick to the gentler milk of the gospel.
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@AnimeBibleVerse Isn't that how Moses and Paul started too?
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Japan gets it!
My fellow Americans: please stop putting cheese on everything.
🇯🇵星空音夢🇯🇵@hoshizorarock
アメリカ人の皆様 日本の牛肉を見てください 申し訳ありませんが日本の牛肉にはチーズの暴力は禁止にします。
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@colonelkbs Meh. Stacker makes good points some days. Other days (like today) he's an incoherent mess.
I don't mind seeing his posts.
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@jaredadairbell I kinda wish we still had the long 6 hour sessions. Maybe we could have just chopped them into sections when going for the dead.
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@DennisBowden18 Arguing that we misunderstand what he meant is not the same as saying he never said it.
And again, many current apologists make the very same argument today.
McConkie, on at least one occasion, also acknowledged the possibility that Brigham was simply wrong.
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@OrigensAdvocate True enough. It's also true that church leaders spent effort trying to convince members that BY didn't teach Adam God as was understood by most, i.e. that Adam was an Exalted Man, and was the Father of our spirits too, including Jesus.
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This is exactly correct. Even if you don't agree with the war.
The White House@WhiteHouse
“All of those countries that can’t get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you…” - President Donald J. Trump
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@cam182411 Taking God at his word when he tells us about base reality is still metaphysics.
Seeking to understand the Gospel, or anything fundamental, is to enguage in philosophy.
You can certainly make the argument that we have fewer holes in our philosophy or theology.
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