
PC Bee
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PC Bee
@PapaCharlieB
Another “woke” Police Officer who should be out there catching the real criminals. You pay my wages.
United Kingdom Katılım Aralık 2022
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@Brick_Cop @ukhomeoffice Genuinely shocked to read this. You are not someone I have the privilege to call a friend, but you have been an inspiration to me nonetheless. A seemingly cracking cop and a voice of reason amongst the madness. Wishing you all the best for the future. Wish I was joining you…
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And just like that, 12 years, 2 medals, a whole bunch of memories and wonderful friends later; I’m done.
Policing you were my childhood dream.
I’m so proud to have been one of you and do my small bit.
You’ll always be part of me, but time to live and move on. #ThinBlueLine 🚨

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@ChrisG_CXG @ellapritchardx Sounds like student officer training to me 🤷♂️ good excuse to get some anti-police likes though
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@ellapritchardx I cant help think that you're an attention seeking arse. But here we are.
And if you're caught doing 35 in a 30, then chances are you were doing 37 on your display, as most speedometer display a couple of mph under.
Also chances are they were doing a traffic focused operation.
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"It's not the police who need to be retrained, it's the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of 'it's the other person's fault, you owe me'. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.
When an officer says "Put your hands up," then put your hands up! Don't reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There's plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don't mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply... that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They're black, white, brown, all colors, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity... the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts... day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person... any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever... that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They've been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect."
~ Sheriff David Clarke

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@snuggywormskl_m @grahamwettone @GBNEWS Not in London, but yes I personally am actively looking to leave. My worry though is that the profession needs serious change and intervention for the good of society. Putting and or shutting up helps nobody
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@PapaCharlieB @grahamwettone @GBNEWS You either put up or shut up ( or become a train driver, work for TFL , where T&Cs are far better)
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@PocketSergeant Not having the right to strike only works when there is respect and fair treatment from the powers that be. Sadly that’s now very much a thing of the past and there’s certainly no sign of it returning
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I’ve always been against police officers having the right to strike, even when I was serving.
But my thinking is changing.
There is so much wrong with policing at the moment. In many ways, the organisation feels like its own worst enemy. Morale is low. Officers feel undervalued. And at times, it seems image and virtue signalling take priority over supporting the people actually doing the job.
Other professions: teaching, nursing, even train drivers would not tolerate some of what police officers are expected to accept.
The argument is that allowing police to strike would set a dangerous precedent and I understand that.
But I’m starting to question whether the absence of that leverage is exactly why officers are so often taken for granted.
Maybe the bigger danger isn’t striking.
Maybe it’s continuing as we are.
What do you think?

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@grahamwettone @snuggywormskl_m @GBNEWS Agree with you, but what is your solution to the problem that we are now in (ie consecutive governments have forced us into that very position where many of us consider it to be necessary)? Genuinely want to know as I can’t see any other realistic option, as much as I’d like to
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@snuggywormskl_m @GBNEWS I disagree with police striking - no government should force policing into even considering that as an option.
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@grahamwettone @GBNEWS Usually agree with you Graham, however what we need as you correctly highlighted above simply will not happen without the power to act if it continues to be ignored. The Fed have consistently proven they are toothless money grabbers and consecutive govs treat us with contempt
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@GBNEWS Fundamentally disagree with police going on strike & I have been in policing as long as Norman & also see & speak to serving officers on a regular basis. They do not need a new or different representative body - they need the fed to speak out & be listened to & govt to act.
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@ExInspectorBDS @BettyBoochichi2 This is a tempter, apart from the thought that you’d then get stuck on for not doing your job and investigated for misconduct in a public office or something. Safest thing to do these days is quit 🤷♂️
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Police Officers.
Stop using force. The society you're trying to protect condemns you for it.
Simply say "I don't think that I can justify the use of force in the current climate" and withdraw.
The tide will turn in one week.
Brian Williams@BriW74
Police officer sacked for striking violent suspect as he resisted arrest telegraph.co.uk/gift/35c0c4cdb… The entire gross misconduct process is biased against frontline officers. Hearings Increasingly feel like kangaroo courts with preordained outcomes.
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Britain appears increasingly ruled by a lanyard-wearing, HR-compliant class who have never had to arrest a violent, non-compliant man, yet are perfectly content to sit in harsh judgement of those who do.
This week, former sergeant Rhodri Davies of South Wales Police lost his appeal against dismissal following his decision to take a 6ft 7in suspect to the floor in a custody suite.
Now, policing is not a seminar. It is physical. It is unpredictable. It is often ugly. You cannot arrest a violent suspect without laying hands on them – unless you are content to let them walk away and wreak more havoc.
The law recognises this. The statutory framework governing police use of force was not originally drafted to hold officers to an impossible standard of clinical perfection. It held them to a reasonable one – what was honestly and reasonably believed necessary in the circumstances, as they perceived them at the time.
Yet you would be forgiven for thinking that the standard had quietly shifted.
When sergeant Rhodri Davies tackled the suspect, none of the officers or staff present raised concerns. When statements were first taken, none identified misconduct. Investigators were “directed to take a second account” – a peculiar approach that the appeal also found “unusual”. Even then, the appeal report itself highlights inconsistencies in expert analysis and a failure to consider all relevant material.
No one argues that corrupt or criminal officers should be shielded. They should not – and there are plenty of examples of those who don’t deserve to wear the uniform being rightly dismissed and even prosecuted.
But accountability is not the same as ritual sacrifice.
In Davies’ case, a 20-year veteran was dismissed in circumstances where alternative outcomes – management action, written warnings or reflective practice – were plainly available. Instead, the most punitive option was chosen.
We are increasingly seeing officers subjected to prolonged, career-ending investigations for quick decisions made in volatile situations. Too many of these cases resemble moral theatre rather than professional scrutiny.
We have seen similar dynamics beyond policing. A London bus driver who chased down a thief, recovered a passenger’s stolen property and then, according to police, used force in self-defence, nonetheless found himself dismissed from his job.
A similar example of a bus driver intervening to catch a thief in South Korea saw the driver rewarded and recognised for his quick thinking and courage. Yet some in Britain today seem intent on making physical initiative in the face of wrongdoing wholly unacceptable.
The cumulative effect is predictable. Officers hesitate and members of the public think twice before intervening. Crime and disorder goes unchallenged – emboldening the criminal and disorderly. The streets do not become calmer; they become less governed.
None of this is to argue that police can do no wrong – excessive force should be investigated. Misconduct should have consequences – the rule of law demands it.
But the pendulum has swung too far. Processes that are supposed to ensure fairness now too often appear engineered to satisfy unreasonable ideological expectations or luxury beliefs. The operating assumption increasingly seems to be that using force is presumptively suspect, rather than sometimes necessary.
Here is the uncomfortable truth: not all violence is immoral. The controlled, lawful application of force is sometimes essential to protect the innocent and restrain the guilty. It will rarely look tidy on body-worn video or CCTV. Fear and anxiety about the risks of using excessive force often mean insufficient force is used – risking the creation of a prolonged or more dangerous incident that looks even worse.
Continued…

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@ChrisG_CXG @NormanBrennan When I joined it was called Tactical Communication or a ‘Verbal Stunning’ and was actively taught….! I haven’t received any training since to the contrary, but it sounds like working within your training isn’t a job saver any more. Madness. I need a new job
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@NormanBrennan Its an absolute disgrace.
Reading that the PST instructor gave evidence to say the actions were justified and in line with training, to then be undermined by someone who said because he'd sworn, he'd clearly lost control..
So are we now stopping any swearing in confrontation?
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The healthy churn we all predicted. Let’s not worry about the cost to recruit or the experience lost 👍🏼 What was once a vocation is now (sadly) just a job. I dread to think the amount of officers looking to leave 😳
Metropolitan Police Federation@MPFed
8,795 police officers left the 43 police forces in England and Wales in the past financial year - that's 6.0% of the workforce. The most common reason for leaving was voluntary resignation (53.1% of leavers) #chapter4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">gov.uk/government/sta…
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There are politicians celebrating yesterday’s outcome, and we have not had a single Police leader say anything.
If you ever wondered why Police Officers are resigning or retiring early in droves you have the answer.
Will anyone step up to the plate?
Anyone?
#ThinBlueLine 🚨

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@ZackPolanski Disgraceful. It was not the act of protest that made them criminals. It was the violent assaults with weapons, the criminal damage and the burglary that made them criminals.
Any words to give to the female crown servant with a broken spine…?
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Pleased to see the jury make this decision.
We need to have eyes wide open this is exactly why the Government wants to abolish juries.
People protesting against a genocide are not the criminals here - it's the politicians who continue to provide cover.
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/…
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@InspGadgetBlogs This is sickening. I’ve been viciously assaulted with a weapon and also let down by the Crown Court. This country is a joke. I have no desire to put my safety and my family life on the line for this pit of a place any more. I want out
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This is unfathomable. Read it and weep. It seems it's now acceptable to smash your way into a building, destroy the contents, attack security, and beat a police officer with a sledgehammer with zero consequences. We are in serious trouble in this country.
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/…
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@PC_Angry Will it….? Or will it mean officers are less likely to try to stop crime in action? Less likely put up for jobs. More likely to leave the profession. This week has shown me how valued I am by society and it’s even worse than I thought. My family life isn’t worth this. I want out
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What will it take for government to take this issue seriously?! Empowering Police to pursue and deal robustly without fear of prosecution and IOPC would soon safeguard future unborn children.
GIF
PC Bee@PapaCharlieB
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