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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ
Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
@DrDavidMiano @ThePujaTeli @SVOjha @SanksP Yes they do talk about the Harappan culture explicitly. And this fact has been recognized by the same journals that scholars like Witzel publish in. The fact that you are woefully ignorant of that shows your mental retardation
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David Miano@DrDavidMiano·
@ThePujaTeli @SVOjha @SanksP Question: do these oral traditions tell you explicitly the year that these traditions began? Another question: do these oral traditions talk about the Harappan culture explicitly?
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Puja Teli@ThePujaTeli·
Apparently ‘Hindu nationalists are anti Muslim’. That’s a big generalisation. And assumes that you’ve spoken to every Hindu nationalist to make that claim. I doubt you’ve found that much time. Remember one thing David, standing up for yourself as a Hindu so your faith isn’t hijacked, misappropriated and standing up for your ancestral civilisation is not = being ‘anti Muslim’. Check what you’ve said and how you’ve framed it.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

@IyerNat These are hypotheticals, but if you think that Hindu nationalists don't hate Muslims, you haven't been paying attention. They tell me so themselves.

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उद्ररुहैन्वीय@kaeshour·
Hindu cultural achievements really were a minority elite phenomenon, their ‘discovery’ is a result of British scholarship. Leftists who criticise the Hindu Right are right about this. (Criticism applies to Islamicate culture more strongly – its elite were a thinner minority)
DD News@DDNewslive

#InfiniteIndia | In 1835, Thomas Babington Macaulay dismissed India's traditional knowledge systems. Yet this was the land of the Vedas, Upanishads, Aryabhata, Charaka, and Nalanda, a civilisation that had advanced in science, medicine, mathematics, and education long before colonial rule. India's civilisational heritage is a testament to centuries of knowledge, innovation, and cultural excellence. Watch the full program: youtu.be/aQXYgdm5A7M @authoramish #IndianCivilisation #Macaulay #Nalanda #Aryabhata #Charaka #InfiniteIndiaOnDD

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𑌉॒𑌗𑍍𑌰𑌶𑍍𑌰᳴𑌵𑌾𑌃@Ugrashravas·
Make the same statement about Italy, France, Spain, Greece, England, and Germany. This is the 10th time I'm asking you. You still have an opportunity to prove to the world whether you're racist or not.
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David Miano@DrDavidMiano

@lazy__mongoose "Rightful successorship" 😆 There is no such thing. Governments protect ancient sites, and sometimes they fund excavations. There are no successors.

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Public Archaeologist@swayampanthi·
@DrDavidMiano The key shift you actually occurred due to the earlier excavations by ASI. What Dr Vasant Shinde and his team did was expanding the research, which means before 2014 it was already known that Rakhigarhi is the largest site of the Harappan civilization. FYI, I was in his team.
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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
@Siradhvaja But the issue is the same as the issue of primitive medicine & modern medicine. Primitive medicine is undoubtedly the precursor to modern medicine, and modern medicine wouldn't exist unless primitive medicine existed. Yet modern medicine wouldn't really consider primitive medicin
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ദേവാനാം അസുരഃ@Siradhvaja·
My issue with this is that regardless of whether one considers 'Hinduism' to be an axial age phenomenon or an extension of a 'Vedism', Yoga becomes Yoga only when it emerged as a cohesive system of thought and practice.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

@thar_ol Our earliest evidence for yoga is older than our earliest evidence for Hinduism. And yes, Hinduism did form at a specific time in history. I don't have time to teach you the history on social media. You need to read.

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ಹಂಸಾನಂದಿ Hamsanandi हंसानन्दि@hamsanandi·
Today, Buddha would have told Kisa Goutami - Name one person capable of thinking , and who has questioned Audrey Trushke’s claims, and not blocked by her yet - I will bring your son back to life. #BuddhamSharanamGachchami
Saran Shanmugam@saranstm

The primary reason one cannot have an honest discussion with a dubious historian like Audrey is that she blocks anyone who poses even a remote challenge to her claims or can provide evidence that contradicts her narrative. She operates in an environment where her assertions go largely unquestioned, while her supporters continue to push the claim that Hindus are unable to debate her - pic cr: Puja Teli. That is why I said that the Government of India should deny her the audience she seeks—namely, the Indian public.

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𑌉॒𑌗𑍍𑌰𑌶𑍍𑌰᳴𑌵𑌾𑌃@Ugrashravas·
I dare you to make a similar statement about Byzantium & Mycenaea to the Greeks, Rome to the Italians/French/Spanish, or Anglo Saxons to the English. If you can't, you can take your racist & illiterate discourse back to where you came from.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

How can a modern country, such as Pakistan or India, be considered an inheritor of a culture, if part of that culture does not exist in their own territory? You want to base it on "ethos"?? Come on. A person from the IVC would see both countries as alien to their own. And even if they thought one was closer, that doesn't make it their heir.

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David Miano@DrDavidMiano·
@VinayakKishore I hate to break it to you, but your 2026 modern India culture is not the same as the 4,500-year old Harappan culture. The Harappans would find more similarity with ancient Mesopotamia than with you.
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Vinayak@VinayakKishore·
Pakistan as the "Anti-inheritor" of cultural heritage David - the Indian side's argument is not about the geographical location or spread of the IVC - but rather, about the cultural inheritance of the Indus Valley civilization. Hindu & Indic culture predominantly retains & sustains the cultural, religious & philosophical elements of the IVC. It does so in Yoga, in Yajna, in preserving the cults of mother goddess & Shiva, in revering the Bull as a sacred symbol, in bangles, in dances, in colour, in celebration of life as sacred. The cultural incompatibility of this very Hindu- Indic civilization with Islamic way of life - was a reason for the brutal & bloody partition of India. The remnants of anything resembling Indian, or Hindu, or Indic, have been systematically wiped off, with active state sponsorship. In this sense, Pakistan stands as the perfect "Anti-inheritor" of the IVC - a nation state established contrary to the civilizational ethos of the land and the people which it is supposed to govern. Nepal, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Bhutan, Thailand are examples to the contrary, as states which have actively preserved the ancient Indic culture to different degrees. Nobody disputes their claims as common inheritors of a shared heritage. While Pakistan might have geographical proximity to a few IVC sites, the claim to any kind of inheritance of cultural & civilizational nature is completely false, as Pakistani state exclusively identifies itself as an Islamic theocracy which takes pride in tracing its roots to Arab & Turkic invaders. This is their official line. Pakistan, by it's very definition, represents the force which destroyed the heritage of the IVC. The latest scramble to claim IVC heritage is nothing but a result of international isolation, because the experiment to establish an Islamic millitary theocracy has gloriously collapsed.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

The Harappan civilization spanned what is now Pakistan and northwest India, and instead of discussing history in a reasonable manner, this platform is loaded with people arguing over whether the biggest or best part is in one country or the other. Low IQ stuff. Did the adults all go to Bluesky?

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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
@gudasan Do you think I am not aware of Narasimhan et. Al? The debate is about whether Steppe ancestry should even be associated with the Vedic religion. The fact that Steppe was absent in the IVC and came later shows nothing
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@RTanunapatah The Eurasian Context: For a detailed look at how these steppe pastoralist groups expanded and spread Indo-European languages from the Pontic-Caspian steppe, refer to the large-scale aDNA analysis published in Nature on Nature.
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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
Unlike you actual scholarship is far more humble in accepting the links of the ritual tradition of the IVC with the Vedic (especially Rigvedic) religion, and acknowledging the absence of evidence of any Steppe incursion in 2nd millennium BCE India x.com/DrDavidMiano/s…
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

@Openatic You’re getting confused between the scholarship itself and what is expressed on social media.

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𑌉॒𑌗𑍍𑌰𑌶𑍍𑌰᳴𑌵𑌾𑌃@Ugrashravas·
Not a day went by when I didn't challenge my schoolteachers if they made some incorrect claim. The better ones used to go back to the sources and we'd learn the next day who was correct. The moronic ones used to impose their authority and be stubborn about their wrong claims.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

Do you go up to school teachers at the grocery store and ask them to teach you? If not, then why do you do it here? You didn't pay tuition. If you want me to teach you for free, go to my YouTube channel. Don't bother me when I am off work and ask me to go do research for you. You think I have 30 minutes to spare for each request? If I know something off the top of my head, I will tell you. Everything I say here is voluntary and at my discretion.

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yajnadevam@yajnadevam·
Narrative war is simply who can create a smoother narrative that lodges more firmly in the heads of most people. This is a specialized craft and the Indian RW, which generally belongs to the Engineering or religious class is basically clueless about it. RW narrative survives mostly by sheer mass and emotional attachment to culture and religion. The leftist historians are highly skilled, well funded and have a good understanding of propaganda, theaterics and narrative control. They are polished and know the ropes of institution building. Their opposition RW is mostly uneducated and disorganized. The only weakness of LW is that their positions are factually absurd. Indian RW is highly emotional and reactive, which is understandable because that is the only thing that is preventing mass desertion to the leftist stance. They also have people who can dig up stuff and present it. However, facts themselves are not narrative and change nothing on the ground. You need to articulate the narrative explicitly and everyone on your side must align and reinforce it in every presentation. You should subtly hint at it without directly stating it. You also need dissemination and education of masses. Social media is a great tool that broke the institutional monopoly over media and journals. However you need to learn rhetoric and structuring of presentation in layers and the methods of stripping the opposition of their credibility. Recent books by @jsaideepak @Aabhas24 and @vikramsampath have been great and we need more. Let me start by stating the leftist position and how the RW position automatically derives from it: LW: Everything good in India was a gift from outsiders. Vedas? Steppe. Biryani? Mughlas. Architecture? Persia. You guys are crap and you need us to save you (politically and spiritually) and therefore you need us to rule you. RW: everything good in India is a gift of her children. You guys are a light to the world and will rule yourselves.
Savitri Mumukshu - सावित्री मुमुक्षु@MumukshuSavitri

Why are there so many self- proclaimed genius- ignoramuses commenting so confidently on IVC and Yoga and Hinduism when they have zero knowledge about it? Numerous other seals and tablets besides the Pashupati seal showing Indian men and women in similar Yogic postures were found at IVC sites. These are not mere cross legged poses. Several of them also show animals. They were analyzed in detail by scholars like Parpola, Thomas McEvilley, etc. At least have the brains to do minimum research before making such dumb claims.

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Sagorika@sagorika_s·
The gall to talk down to the people whose religion is being dissected to purposefully demean and call a social media retaliation to lies an “attack”? Requires intellectual cowardice and it always ends up with appeal to authority and circular citation.
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

Well, even I have been attacked by Hindutva ideologues for the last 6 years. Now imagine if someone has experienced this hatred for a lot longer, as Dr. Truschke has. I might react in much the same way. Regarding her portrayal of Muslim rulers, I have to ask you, which seems more ideologically-motivated: 1) saying a Muslim ruler probably was not as evil as the legends say, or 2) saying that the legends of a Muslim ruler being the epitome of evil must be true, because I hate Muslims?

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Savitri Mumukshu - सावित्री मुमुक्षु@MumukshuSavitri·
Truschke is just one part of the hydra - poking the ministry of culture while pushing her new trashy rag. Paxis suddenly positioning themselves as globallly responsible negotiators while claiming IVC “heritage”, and 2.5 front maggots like the well endowed makeup clown initiating backup ops by pushing “Yoga predates Hinduism” tropes. Not to forget the Norwegian “reporter” & newly fermented roaches. All part of plan after the shock of Bengal. Important to counter and take control of the narrative.
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Piyush Kulshreshtha@ThinkersPad·
In the entire 1.3 million Sq Kms of Indus Valley, amongst thousands of seals, ONLY ONE seal was found showing a man sitting in Yogic Posture, surrounded by Animals. And people think it was a Deity. Forget by what name one should call it, it’s not even a Deity.
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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
@0007ferrero I know these arguments, you're not the first person to make them, they don't hold up and involve too many assumptions. I'll provide a detailed refutation when time permits. I'm sorry for just dismissing it this way.
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Mahārājah's Pākayajña Cook@0007ferrero·
Some radical thoughts on a new picture of the 'process of Satemization' PS: Feel VERY free to find technical inconsistencies
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Lalitāditya@LalitAditya1212·
Keezhadi was definitely a phenomenal discovery, pushing back a lot of popular narratives back then. But in no way, it shows "Tamil exceptionalism" in any way ("while the North was composing Vedas, we were building civilisation" kinda BS), it just shows how different societies in India had sophisticated cultures differently. By the same time period, the North was itself going through the Second Urbanisation with kingdoms like Magadha and Kosala rising; the Haryanka dynasty formed at the same time too. Interestingly, a more recent excavation in Bahaj, Rajasthan have shown written Brahmi too - during the same time period (6th century BCE)!
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Men 🏋️‍♂️ Muscle 💪 Money💵@MenMuscleMoney·
@DrDavidMiano Lmao the hypocrisy is wild. When I cited Audrey Truschke’s book on 5000 years of Indian history: “It’s not my field… sources cited only generally… we just have to take this person’s word for it.” But now you’re out here confidently claiming “earliest evidence for yoga is older than Hinduism” and when asked for evidence you hit people with “I don’t have time… you need to read.” Bro, you can’t dismiss Indian history as “not your field” one minute and then play expert on Hinduism & yoga the next. Either drop the specific sources for your claim or admit you’re just another “trust me bro” historian. Either shit out the specific references for your claim or drop the “Dr” cosplay and admit you’re just another credentialed fraud who only demands rigor when it suits you.
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Rudrāḥ Tanūnapātaḥ@RTanunapatah·
Miano makes a claim, pushes his "credentials" as a historian to push for the validity of the claim, and when questioned about the sources once cornered, his usual exit is always "its not my job to do research for you" Beware of this x.com/DrDavidMiano/s…
David Miano@DrDavidMiano

Do you go up to school teachers at the grocery store and ask them to teach you? If not, then why do you do it here? You didn't pay tuition. If you want me to teach you for free, go to my YouTube channel. Don't bother me when I am off work and ask me to go do research for you. You think I have 30 minutes to spare for each request? If I know something off the top of my head, I will tell you. Everything I say here is voluntary and at my discretion.

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@DrDavidMiano @ThePujaTeli @SVOjha @SanksP @Ugrashravas @kaeshour @Siradhvaja @hamsanandi