@OneMichaelTew There is no presupposition here bro lol. It’s an internal critique and not traditionally Christianity btw but the 3rd councils definition of God in regard to Jesus’s incarnation.
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I know you are Mormon, but your question has presuppositions about the nature of Christ that aren’t in line with traditional Christianity so I was trying to clarify.
I can say a few things though.
Christ felt pain when he was crucified, and that pain came from His human nature. That pain came from being crucified, not from the pain of the sins of the world.
The person of Christ died and rose again in His humanity.
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Question for the Creedalists…. In what way can a human create an infinite/eternal sacrifice… since the hypostatic union promotes that only the flesh of Christ was the thing that felt the pain and what died for our sins… where does it say in the bible the flesh is sufficient?
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@RestoredTruth8 Why does sex matter when it comes to proxy ordinances?
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@OneMichaelTew Bro. I’m not a Calvinist so you got me wrong here. The fact you can’t answer the question is weird to me… what part of Jesus felt the pain and sin of the world? Or was there any pain felt? What part died for my sins? What part rose?
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@planksandpieces Buddy what? Did the divine nature of Christ die for our sins?
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This question reads as if it has a lot of Calvinist/Nestorian/ presuppositions behind it.
“The flesh of Christ was the thing that felt the pain and what died for our sins”
Sounds like you’re collapsing person/nature. God died on the cross.
I’d suggest you go read The council of Chalcedon and the Cappadocian Fathers who articulate this at length.
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@ThoughtfulSaint I can think of one solve, Calvinists simply don't believe the sacrifice was infinite
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@RestoredTruth8 Jesus was fully man and fully God. Next question.
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Don’t forget domestic violence charges…
Both of them related to child abuse…
Harrison Krank@HarrisonKrank
If you want to get a glimpse into how bad modern dating culture has gotten. 22 men are about to compete on national television for the chance to marry a single mom of 3 who cheated on her previous husband and has an open domestic assault case against her.
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@RestoredTruth8 Where does it say hypostatic union in the Bible?
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@OneMichaelTew So was he scarified or not? And which part of him was
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You seem to be equating “sacrifice” to taking on the suffering and punishment for our sins. But this is not the understanding of what a sacrifice is for traditional Christians, and not the understanding of what Christ accomplished on the Cross.
In short, Christ did not undergo eternal suffering and pain.
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@RestoredTruth8 No, because the Christians who read it completely understand it, it is you who insist on looking at everything through the man centric LDS lens that cannot comprehend Biblical concepts, everything has to be laid out as if we are all 5 yr old who cannot critically think.
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@austinknight Can you answer the question did Jesus’s divine nature make the sacrifice or did his human nature?
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@RestoredTruth8 It did, you’re assuming Jesus isn’t truly God in His death. If the one who died is God, the question answers itself. So is Jesus God, or is he not?
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@RestoredTruth8 You are theologically devoid that the simplest concept escapes you. Get yourself a Basic Theology book and educate yourself and then comeback and ask these questions with a proper frame of reference. If you are going to insist seeing everything through a man centric LDS theology
GIF
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@DiscipleFidei @RigdonNancy3 I already tried setting up a convo with you and you ran away. God bless
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@RestoredTruth8 @RigdonNancy3 We do live convos all the time! You’re always invited to come talk.
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I guess Chad thinks this is fake news:
“And Jesus Christ is the Savior of the whole world.”
Yikes… Chad thinks the savior of the world is the fake news…. Gotta love me some Calvinists…
𝕊𝕠𝕝𝕒 ℂ𝕙𝕒𝕕 🎚️@sola_chad
🎯
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@donahue_jo5848 🤦♂️ if you are saying it is then you have the burden of proof…
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@RestoredTruth8 There are answers for this, but I'm curious about your framing. Where in the Bible does it say flesh is _not_ sufficient?
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@RestoredTruth8 Because He was the perfect sinless sacrifice, He was not born of man, He was born of the Holy Spirit and of a virgin, hence He does not carry the sin of Adam, He leads a perfect sinless life obeying God commandments perfectly. And He could only do that if He is fully God.
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@RestoredTruth8 Fair question. I guess if a person can die as to their mortal nature that is enough as long as that person also has an eternal nature. I promise this is not special pleading 😉
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@RestoredTruth8 By not denying that the one who died is God...
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