@IOHK_Charles Stronger together by discriminating those who have differences in opinion to you? Stop being a hypocrite Charles. Grow up.
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thoughtsofman
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After reflecting deeply on this governance process, a few things are clearer to me than ever.
Cardano is alive. The community is engaged. And that matters more than any single vote.
But this process has shown me something important: Cardano's governance is real. You are not passive holders. You are owners. That is exactly what we built this for.
It has also reminded me that when Cardano has needed it most, the Pentad delivered. IOG, EMURGO, the Cardano Foundation, Midnight Foundation, and Intersect have proven they can coordinate and bring critical integrations to life when the ecosystem needed it. That coordination layer matters now more than ever.
So let me show up the way I should.
I will be in Singapore for the Cardano Summit and I will be on stage. I am also personally committing to partially top up our Token2049 sponsorship to Title level. Being on that main stage is where Cardano and Midnight need to be heard.
To the Pentad, I am inviting all of you to sit down and have a real conversation about the future of governance and how we formalise this coordination going forward.
I am 100% focused on Cardano and Midnight. Always have been. Let me prove it. #strongertogether
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@robert_drep Ofcourse you dont. You clearly lack comprehension skills, no one is arguing research is a waste of tunding.
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@ThoughtsofMan0 I have ZERO shame about this! People invested in Cardano, but feeling that research is a waste of funding is outright foolish!
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I have a crazy idea guys. How about instead of voting "No" on the research proposal, that you just sell your ADA and move to a blockchain that matches what you agree with. This way you don't have to try and make Cardano like every other blockchain.
Like many of you, the research basis of Cardano is what brought me in, this is what I signed up for. If you don't like it, leave. It's really not complicated.
You think it's a waste of money? Fine, there are other options for you, so ask yourself why you are even here. Liberate yourself, as I'm sure you will be more happy with less drama in your life.
If you say you like Cardano and want research, but you want to control all that is researched, then you are missing the point. If you don't trust that they will use these resources wisely after 10 years of publishing, then, again, why are you even here?
And yes, I'm talking to you @ItsDave_ADA and @yutazzz, as well as the anti IOG crowd.
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@phil_uplc So all those budgets spent and we still have none of that? How good to spend and have nothing to show for.
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If we halt the development of the execution layer then we are essentially throwing in the towel in competing for the DeFi market. No interoperability, module system, interface standards, or event system means no programmable pools (hook service contracts / hook data), no vaults, no programmatic offchain arbitrage bots.
Please wake up people.
Seungheon Oh@SeungheonO
Plutus running ~1M scripts/month is evidence that the foundation works. And mature infrastructure is exactly where careful, targeted improvements matter most. Smart contract platforms across major ecosystems continue evolving as adoption grows. This proposal focuses on: • Estimated ~30% cost reductions • New primitives like Poseidon for ZK workloads • Property-based conformance testing to strengthen node diversity • Continuous security audits and further Agda formalization That’s how strong foundations stay strong.
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I remember when Charles said that his work at Cardano is done and its upto the people now
Phil Lewis@phillewisit
Important message from Charles. Let’s not derail funding core development and research in the pursuit of maximum decentralisation. “Changes have to be made to governance” - 💯 We need a managed transition. 2025 and 2026 failed to achieve this, as Intersect took the wrong path. Let’s re-centralise around IO, CF, EMURGO and Intersect (but where members define how it contributes), then over time introduce new institutions. If we slowly decentralise the institutions, we can avoid the Catalyst-like chaos we have had 2 years in a row now.
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@IOHK_Charles @yutazzz How decentralised and fair is this system hey?
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I am voting "Abstain" on the proposal for "Cardano Vision 2026: Human Centred, Scalable, Post Quantum Secure - IO Research."
I believe this proposal is a mix of a waste of funds and a potentially excellent proposal for Leios and quantum resistance research, and I wanted it resubmitted and split.
However, the IOR has promised never to resubmit and has promised to close down leios and quantum-resistant research labs if the proposal is rejected.
As some members have suggested, this may be a political maneuver by the IOR, but it may not be. If not, I believe that news of a complete halt to the research will spread, and the ADA could fall by more than 50% due to the departure of holders who were involved in purchasing under the guise of peer review.
Therefore, our choice is as follows:
A. Tolerate some seemingly pointless research as a sacrifice to gain access to research on Leios and quantum resistance.
B-1. Reject the proposal, betting on a resubmission, with an X% probability of the resubmission occurring.
B-2. Reject the proposal, betting on a (1-X)% chance of a resubmission, but all labs closing and an ADA 50%+drop event occurring.
The ideal scenario is B-1, but the worst-case scenario is B-2, and the probability of this is difficult to predict as it depends on the political decisions of the IOR team. At the very least, since the IOR has promised closures, this is a high-risk gamble.
While I acknowledge that B-1 is ideal, I cannot accept the risk of the B-2 event, so I withdraw my NO. While I find this emotionally very frustrating, we need to consider it objectively, focusing on the practical gains and losses for the entire ecosystem.
On the other hand, I understand the argument that it is absurd to actively approve a budget that includes what I believe to be a waste of money. Based on this feedback, I withdraw my YES.
Therefore, my final vote is Abstain. I hope the IOR will improve its operations next year.
YUTA-Cardano/CPA(DMは全て詐欺)@yutazzz
チャールズさん、メッセージをありがとうございました。私はいかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことを確認しました。 私の考えではこの中のいくつかの研究はお金の無駄になる可能性が高いと考えていますが、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性などいくつかは必須です。私は分割されて再提出されることを願って、そのいくつかにYESを、そのいくつかのNOを投票したいと考えていました。 しかし、いかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことが確認できた今、DRepの現在の選択肢は次の２つで、その他の選択肢の交渉の余地はありません、全てを破壊する選択をできないので、私は投票を変更します。 1. IORの現在の提案書を受け入れる。（ PoUW などCardanoエコシステムから見て、優先度の低いと思う内容があっても） 2. IORの現在の提案書を拒否して、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性の全てを研究を捨てて、スケーラビリティとセキュリティを破壊する。
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@yutazzz Similiar case to the Cardano summit. "Never be resubmitted" fuck the threats. Decentralised my ass.
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チャールズさん、メッセージをありがとうございました。私はいかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことを確認しました。
私の考えではこの中のいくつかの研究はお金の無駄になる可能性が高いと考えていますが、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性などいくつかは必須です。私は分割されて再提出されることを願って、そのいくつかにYESを、そのいくつかのNOを投票したいと考えていました。
しかし、いかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことが確認できた今、DRepの現在の選択肢は次の２つで、その他の選択肢の交渉の余地はありません、全てを破壊する選択をできないので、私は投票を変更します。
1. IORの現在の提案書を受け入れる。（ PoUW などCardanoエコシステムから見て、優先度の低いと思う内容があっても）
2. IORの現在の提案書を拒否して、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性の全てを研究を捨てて、スケーラビリティとセキュリティを破壊する。
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles
一部の日本のdRepが私たちの研究提案に反対票を投じたことに、深い悲しみを覚えています。 もしこの提案が可決されなければ、カルダノ（Cardano）はその科学者たちを失い、私たちのラボは閉鎖に追い込まれるということを、日本のコミュニティ全体に再認識していただきたいと考えています。私たちは10年以上の歳月をかけて努力と成長を積み重ね、暗号資産分野において世界最強の研究グループを築き上げてきました。 一部の断片的な資金援助だけで、この成果をバラバラに崩壊させるわけにはいきません。私たちの科学者たちは、より確実性と敬意のある場所へと去ってしまうでしょう。 どうか、カルダノの研究アジェンダを支持するdRepへの委任をお願いいたします。
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@slowhand4040 So should we keep spending on developments that have lead us nowhere? Do we keep spending on research/developments/maintenance thats supposed to be covered already?
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CARDANOをいまディスってる奴らって本当にコミュニティの人間なん？特にシステム関連の開発についてですけど、まあ、Catalystは糞としても、根幹の開発止めたらそれこそこの10年近くが無駄になりませんか？
価格は大切ですけど、そこだけなん？
と思います。
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@lxstlosty “It hits his body”
Ok that’s cool but his arm shouldn’t be that high up either way it’s an unnatural position
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It is not economically viable to kill what brought us here. Now sure if you noticed but Eth is trying to copy what cardano built. We need to finish the job and ensure our system is working as expected and stay secure. Have you seen the amount of hacks in crypto? We need solution that stops this abbuse and cardano is getting a lot of traction recently as a contender. We need to push forward there is no bother choice...
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As a co-proposer through the Pentad, EMURGO stands behind the Cardano Critical Integrations V2 proposal.
V1 brought tier-one infrastructure to Cardano.
V2 keeps it running and brings Cardano natively into Fireblocks.
Integrations live on Cardano today:
▪️ USDCx from @circle
▪️ @PythNetwork price oracles
▪️ @Dune Analytics coverage
Currently in implementation:
▪️ @LayerZero_Core cross-chain bridges
CCI V2 funds contracted Year 2 cost and 12 months of continuous operation, so attestors, oracle feeds, bridge endpoints, and analytics pipelines stay performant, secure, and ready for scale. 🧵
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Intersect@IntersectMBO
Cardano Critical Integrations V2 has now been submitted on-chain! This proposal requests ₳23M to support the next phase of Cardano’s critical infrastructure, covering Year 2 contracted costs, maintenance, enhancements, and ongoing delivery for Circle (USDCx), LayerZero, Pyth, and Dune, alongside a native Fireblocks integration. The proposal has been brought collaboratively through the Pentad structure by @Cardano_CF @IOGroup @emurgo_io & @midnightfdn, with Intersect acting as Administrator and a non-voting member responsible for administration and execution. The proposal is now with the community to review and vote on! See on explorers: Adastat ➡️ adastat.net/governances/c0… CardanoScan ➡️ cardanoscan.io/govAction/gov_…
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I'm asking why Mikel Arteta chose to start Calafiori over Piero Hincapié.
For me, Piero Hincapié is better going forward because I saw him against Burnley, and not only in that game, this guy is always very good when attacking.
Calafiori is good in defending, but in terms of attacking, it is difficult for him to deliver more crosses than Piero Hincapié.
And I think in the remaining games, since we are facing smaller teams, we need to focus more on attacking than defending because what matters now is winning the games, not drawing them.
So I do not know why Mikel Arteta chose to start Calafiori, but for me, I wish he had started with Piero Hincapié.
When he came on, everyone witnessed how he was delivering crosses, but by then the game was already at a high tempo.
Even the opponents knew that in the second half they had nothing to lose, so they focused more on attacking than defending.
That is why it became very difficult for us to score.
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rolled his eyes, turned around, and walked right out of the store like I had personally offended him.
I’m not even gonna lie, the whole interaction irritated me more than it probably should have.
Because it’s not even about the pizza at that point. It’s the fact that I was fully willing to help somebody out, and somehow it turned into customer service complaints over FREE food.
Like Sir… you asked for help, not bottle service.
Anyway, congratulations to him because now I’m out here rethinking every future act of generosity for at least the next 48 business hours.
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So today a homeless guy outside a pizza spot asked me if I could buy him something to eat.
He said he was hungry, and without really thinking twice I told him, “Yeah, okay.”
Then immediately after that, he starts telling me his order preferences 😭
Talking about, “I like extra cheese and pepperoni.”
Mind you… I was already doing this out of kindness, not because I’m DoorDash.
So I went inside and bought him a regular cheese slice. Nothing crazy, but still food.
I come back out, hand it to him, and this man looks at the pizza, looks at me, and goes, “I said I like extra cheese and pepperoni.”
The entitlement almost took me OUT.
So I looked right back at him and said, “You can take it or leave it.”
And instead of just accepting the slice, he….
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Interesting how none of you truly provide a non bias review of Cardano's ecosystem. No promotion of Cardano Defi, just more sucking up to daddy Charles.
Pete | Beware of Scammers@astroboysoup
9.5M lifetime YT views across 6 creators. @BigPey, @CWPaulM, @cryptoFly777, @daveXCrypto, @lapetiteADA and me, that’s an estimated 863,253 hours watched. ~98 years of attention It's not just content, it's distribution, trust & education w/ people paying attention to Cardano.
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Funny how yall hate Arsenal yet want our players😂
TR@Deji_mide
Imagine if he actually signs for us our starting back 4 would be Matheus Nunes, Ruben Dias, Guehi and Nico O’reilly
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Weird how all these "Cardano influencers" dont mention Iagon's partnership with Fireblocks. Whats the point of them if they cant even highlight the achievements of the ecosystem?
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More tax cuts for working Australians are on the way in Labor's Budget.
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What the hell is up with this dude
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles
@RadicalJimmah Tasty but regrettable
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@TheThreadZone Bruh how is Raya going to be in full control of the ball when he cant even get to it due to west ham players elbowing and pulling him down?
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🚨 Mateu Lahoz (retired Spanish referee) on West Ham’s disallowed equaliser against Arsenal:
🗣️ “I watched the replay many times and for me, that goal should have stood. Raya was never fully in control of the ball in any situation. If I was the referee, there is no chance I’m disallowing that goal.
When you are fighting relegation, one decision like this can change everything for a club. Players work the whole season for moments and points like these.
And maybe the referee also had pressure in his mind. Arsenal are fighting for the Premier League and perhaps nobody wanted the headlines if that goal changed the title race or helped Manchester City again.
Football is becoming too clinical. Sometimes the game needs common sense more than five-minute VAR reviews.”
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