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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
"When will you stop worrying and simply let yourself be loved?" "It's not that easy." "Few things are. Yet I tell you this. Love must be allowed to flow both ways—if it does not, then it is not truly love - It is something else. - there are some of us who are far too quick to make martyrs of ourselves. We stand at the side, watching, thinking that we do the right thing by inaction. We fear pain—our own or that of another." - Brandon Sanderson - The Well of Ascension
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Jacob Sorenson@JakerSor21·
@UteFanIvan I think they will be blocked from any sources outside of the ground water. At least from what I’m seeing. It’s strictly approval for the recycled loop. Could lead to a dead data center though in that case. One interesting note, isn’t the Bear River range managed by the fed?
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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
I’m not really here to argue but share what I’m feeling about this. I do not trust any of this. Personally. They say water and air pollution regulations will be upheld, but I don’t trust that people won’t be being paid off and haven’t been paid off already. As an avid fly fisherman, water ways are already at risk. I’m concerned for the future of our state.
Jason Bassler@JasonBassler1

🚨 The LARGEST "hyperscale" data center in the world is being proposed in Box Elder County, Utah. It's approx. 40,000 acres/62 square miles, backed by Canadian millionaire Kevin O’Leary. Fast-tracked by Utah’s Military Installation Development Authority, backed by Gov. Spencer Cox, with the public locked out of the decision process. Utah, say hello to a 50% increase in CO₂ emissions, polluted water, and 24/7 noise and light pollution.

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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
@JakerSor21 Just based off how much we already use for Ag, and now adding the load of the data centers, my assumption is that yes. They will eventually need another source.
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Jacob Sorenson@JakerSor21·
@UteFanIvan Exactly, the developers have filed for water rights (specifically Water Right 13-4148) and are largely looking to groundwater and the purchase of existing ranching/agricultural water rights. But the assumption you make is that they fill slowly and will need another source?
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David Blackett@idbusa·
@UteFanIvan I’m an avid fly fisherman and guide. Worried as well. There’s no infrastructure for housing. They say they’re going to use the water shares already allocated. But there’s a history of data centers exceeding their allotment.
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Mark@Sumoslammers1·
@UteFanIvan Be nice Ivan, or do you only kiss up to Cougar fans? 😉
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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
Oh our offense was the worst it’s been all series and Kyle Whittingham just happened to be in the building? Coincidence? I think NOT.
Charlie@CharlieInUtah

@utehayden Yep

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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
There are some benefits. Mainly construction jobs, some long-term technical jobs, and potential tax revenue. But for projects like this, the number of permanent jobs is usually pretty small compared to the size of the development. So the question a lot of people are asking is whether those benefits outweigh the long-term costs. Like water use, energy demand, and environmental impact. Especially in a place like northern Utah where resources are limited.
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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
That’s actually the concern. They haven’t told us where that water’s coming from. There aren’t major waterways out there. So the water has to come from groundwater. In a desert basin like northwest Box Elder County, those aquifers recharge very slowly if at all. Even “efficient” data centers still use significant water, and at this scale it adds up fast. So the issue isn’t hot water being discharged. It’s long-term depletion of limited groundwater resources. That’s quite detrimental environmental impact.
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Jacob Sorenson@JakerSor21·
@UteFanIvan Based on location, I can’t identify which waterways are perceived to be directly impacted by this? I think we hear data center and we envision NSA west of Utah lake, pumping hot water into the lake. My understanding of this specific site is far from that. Minimal env. impact.
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Nicwebby@nicwebby·
@UteFanIvan I live in BE County. This is only one of two major projects that the governor is pushing for us up here that we found out about through the media, not our govt. I don't like how rushed this is. There are so many concerns I have besides just the water.
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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
By that logic, you can't oppose highways unless you stop driving, or oppose development unless you stop using buildings. That's not how public planning works. If these facilities are necessary, they should be built in areas with more sustainable water supplies or use cooling systems that don’t rely heavily on water.
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sploooosh@HollydayCoop·
@UteFanIvan If you want to stop data centers, then lessen the demand. No twitter, no online shopping, etc.
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Utah Democratic Party
Utah Democratic Party@UtahDemocrats·
Nearly 400 Utahns have already filed protests. A crowd packed the Brigham City courthouse. The Great Salt Lake is on life support and we're supposed to trust that a 9-gigawatt, gas-powered data center on its shore is fine? Don't let up. Our lake, our water, and our air are not bargaining chips for a billion-dollar tech deal.
The Salt Lake Tribune@sltrib

Days after a crowd showed up in Brigham City to decry a potential vote that would allow the development to proceed, the Utah Division of Water Rights received a deluge of written protests about the project sltrib.com/news/environme…

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CrazyUs@crazyus·
UTAH, you don’t want this & the Shark Tank guy is trying to build an even bigger AI data center in our state. We don’t have enough water for ourselves let alone this data center. Say NO to the data Center!
Noah B. Price@TrueOnX

🚨 ALARMING: Small town Louisiana is in CHAOS because of Zuckerberg. Meta is building a $27 BILLION AI data center... 4 million sq ft on 2,250 acres. They’re permitted to suck 23 MILLION gallons of water PER DAY while locals deal with noise, lights, dust, and skyrocketing bills. Estimates are saying 600 million gallons of water per year will be used... This is what “progress” looks like? Turning peaceful American towns into server farms for ALL OF YOUR DATA. Big Tech gets richer, off of the data that they legally stole from you... all because you signed the terms and conditions. Regular people are getting screwed. Say goodbye to any ounce of privacy that you think you may have had left. Who’s really winning here? Tag someone who needs to see this. Let me know what you think, and SHARE THIS so that others may too!

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Jason Bassler
Jason Bassler@JasonBassler1·
🚨 The LARGEST "hyperscale" data center in the world is being proposed in Box Elder County, Utah. It's approx. 40,000 acres/62 square miles, backed by Canadian millionaire Kevin O’Leary. Fast-tracked by Utah’s Military Installation Development Authority, backed by Gov. Spencer Cox, with the public locked out of the decision process. Utah, say hello to a 50% increase in CO₂ emissions, polluted water, and 24/7 noise and light pollution.
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Ivan@UteFanIvan·
Dude why have I never watched Malcolm in the Middle? This show is hilarious 😂😂
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