WattsUp ☦︎
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With regard to "Judeo Christian":
The 10 Commandments are Jewish.
The great stories of the Old Testament are Jewish.
The Jews developed the idea of subsidiarity as the alternative to tyranny and slavery.
The Jews established the cultural preconditions for the rise of universal literacy.
The fate of Israel at the hands of the Islamists is the fate of the West.
This rising tide of anti-semitism sickens me. Those of you engaging in it for your oh-so-moral reasons—you're despicable.
And remember, you proud "Christians" objecting in all your purity to the term:
Christ Himself was a Jew.
Wes Huff@WesleyLHuff
So much noise online regarding the term "judeo-Christian." Guys -- in academia it's simply the term that describes the combined corpus of Old and New Testaments. The Jewish heritage of the Hebrew scriptures combined with the New Testament. That's it. I know you want there to be some conspiracy but there isnt, that's the way we're using it. It has nothing to do with geo-politics or a one world order.
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@TheOrthonaut @Orthodavec @metathomist Why would you state the exact same thing I said, and then claim I hate it? 😂
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The audible gulp when Ryan realizes he can't snake his way out of his own contradiction and places himself in opposition to Our Lord regarding faith.
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It’s exactly what it teaches. Westminster Confession 11.1:justification is “not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins… not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them.” Nothing infused, nothing changed in you, just a legal status change. That’s not a strawman of Calvinism.
That’s the whole point Dyer’s making: you’ve got “declared righteous” and “made righteous” as two different events on two different timelines.
Calvinsts are effectively monergist.
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If God has to regenerate someone before they can even desire Him, and that regeneration is unilateral and irresistible, then whether any given person gets it or not was never up to them at any point.
If the natural man literally cannot desire God on his own, and only some natural men get switched on by God’s unilateral choice, then yeah, the guys who don’t get switched on were never going to be anything but damned.
Do you really think God sat down and elected billions of people specifically to be damned?
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@Babyhead91 God has to regenerate him first. No one who truly desires God is damned.
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Then tell us what you believe, because Dyer’s literally just quoting your own confession back to you.
WCF 11.1: justification is “not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins… not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them.” Nothing infused, nothing changed in you, just a legal status change. That’s not a strawman of Calvinism.
That’s the whole point Dyer’s making: you’ve got “declared righteous” and “made righteous” as two different events on two different timelines.
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@ElHanchoNacho @NoeticPulse @TuckerCarlson It's wild how you think you know so much about what I believe.
Last time I checked, only God knows what I believe.
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More people than ever are discovering there’s true evil in the world and they’re turning to God for answers. Jay Dyer explains the growing popularity of the Orthodox Church.
0:00 The Attempts to Suppress Christianity in Schools
8:14 The Problems With Christian Zionism
14:09 What Is Calvinism?
24:10 A Different View of Salvation and the Bible
30:13 The Rise of Secret Societies
34:09 The Importance of Reading the Bible
36:38 What Are Icons?
42:55 The Difference Between Orthodoxy, Catholicism, and Protestantism
47:56 What's the Highest Form of Government?
55:49 The Rise in Online Debates
1:00:42 The Death of Atheism
1:04:35 The Religion of Hollywood
1:12:25 Has the CIA Been Involved in Making Hollywood Movies?
1:14:51 Lone Gunmen and False Flag Recruitment
1:17:44 The CIA's Role in American Politics
1:19:22 Were Epstein's Sex Crimes a Distraction From Something Bigger?
1:22:34 Are Aliens Actually Demons?
1:24:39 The True Goal of the Globalist Elites
1:31:51 Yoga, Sexual Perversion, and Demonic Power
1:39:55 Was Oppenheimer Participating in the Demonic?
1:43:44 The Rise of Charismatic Christianity
1:50:17 The End Times
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It's crazy that the White House is posting videos of alien space craft in flight and nobody seems to care.
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@thaddeusthought @USATrackAIPAC Yep.
Also if they claim the Son’s spirative power is itself received from the Father, then in what sense is the Spirit not, in the final analysis, still from the Father alone, only “through” the Son as a channel?
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@USATrackAIPAC This doesn't depict double procession. If you teach double procession, you have a serious heresy. If you dont, you deny your own church dogma.
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Augustine saying some are predestined to life and others aren’t is a claim about who receives the benefit of Christ’s work. Limited atonement is a claim about the nature and extent of the atoning work itself, that Christ’s blood was only offered/sufficient for the elect and not others. Those are different categories.
Satisfaction theory of atonement doesn’t exist yet, that’s Anselm, Cur Deus Homo, 11th century.
Foreknowledge based election isn’t the same machine or thing as TULIP’s causal/effectual call. Orthodox/Catholics both affirm some form of predestination to glory without buying the Reformed mechanism for how grace operates.
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@WattsUpJordan @rogerecoff Have you read Augustine on John 10?
“What did He mean, then, in saying to them, ‘You are not of my sheep’? That He saw them predestined to everlasting destruction, not won to eternal life by the price of His own blood.” (48.4)
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This is literally only a problem for 3% of Christians called Calvinists, who do not understand Jesus or the Bible
5 Solas@5Solas
The problem with saying "Jesus Loves You" in evangelism.
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No.
Augustine himself never worked out anything resembling irresistible grace or limited atonement as later formalized.
Aquinas explicitly rejected limited atonement and taught a synergistic model of grace and free will.
And numerically: if “shaped by Augustine” counts as Calvinist, then Catholics and Orthodox (who reject TULIP wholesale) would also count.
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@rogerecoff Calvinists are the majority of Christians in History. Via Augustine's thought. Luther was Augustinian, and so was Aquinas. They all believe in some form of what we call Calvinism. With varying definitions of the extent of the atonement.
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@WattsUpJordan @johncdirks If the answer to that question is “no” or “I don’t know” then you can’t rely on the text you have as infallible.
Next you have to answer whether the translation you have 100% transfers all that was communicated in the original language 100% accurately.
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The more I learn Church history the less I understand how anyone remains Orthodox.
Val@valorthodoxia
The more I read the Bible, the less I understand how anyone remains Protestant.
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It’s from Protestants who cling to their Protestantism. We do not have this false doctrine and our clergy will never embrace it. It’s actually very offensive. It suggests God the Father punished God the Son, rather than God the Son partaking in our punishment as a means to experience our lot in life, smash open the gates of Hades, and welcome us back into His kingdom. It was the completion of His incarnation.
Every action God the Son, God the Father, and/or the Holy Spirit takes is done synergistically. It is false and blasphemous to even insinuate any of the three persons of the Holy Trinity act without consent and synergy of the others. It is why they are the Holy Trinity!
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@farmingandJesus @Protestia There are baptist conventions congregations and leaders who affirm nonsense like this just fyi.
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I get that part of the reason for the Filioque is that it grew out of a specific pastoral/polemical need in the Latin West: fighting Arianism.
But adding the Son as a co-source of the Spirit’s origin collapses the distinct personal properties into the shared essence. If the Spirit proceeds from both Father and Son as from one principle, you need some further explanation of what distinguishes the Son’s begetting from the Spirit’s procession…otherwise you can’t tell the two processions apart.
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@krezhnev22 Except Ambrose, Augustine and Cyril of Alexandria who taught the Filioque.
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Catholics and Protestants when they realise every single Early Church Father was Orthodox.
Ojike Uzoma@Xtopher_Uzo
Protestants when they realize every single Early Church Father was Catholic.
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Alright Twitter Family
I need some ideas for a good Catholic Christian name for my next boy……
What do you got?
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@Younos2025 @_Navidson @ExiledFred @CatholicDrip___ You do understand that the Canon of scripture is a tradition from the Church right?
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Your "church" telling you what's supposed to be believed isn't necessarily a guarantee that what's taught is true, either. It's perfectly possible to be unified in an error or a lie.
Also, it's okay to not know everything there is to know, or to hold some views or beliefs that happen to be incorrect.
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If Sola Scriptura is the foundation….
It should be one of the easiest doctrines to find in Scripture
But it’s not in the Bible, I see quite the opposite in fact 💧
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@JamesDitto12 @CatholicDrip___ @scorpio6920 @5Solas 1 Corinthians 4:6 is a rebuke of party-spirit and preacher-idolization, not a statement defining the sole rule of faith lol
It can’t mean “written text alone is authoritative”, because that would put Paul at war with himself because he commands the opposite.
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@CatholicDrip___ @scorpio6920 @5Solas Even oral teaching is subordinate to what is written.
"Do not go beyond what is written" was written to a church that had oral Apostolic teaching.
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Become Orthodox. Realize the west at large is the issue.
The Apostles were not operating on Western, Eurocentric, or Latin assumptions. They were Eastern minded.
Rome detached itself from its Eastern roots, transitioned into a centralized, legalistic empire, and created a totally different theological mindset. When Protestants rebelled against Rome, they didn't change this mindset. Both Roman Catholicism and Protestantism are fundamentally locked inside a Western theological bubble.
It’s pure nominalism. That’s why you have radical development like this and Vatican II.
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@ksorbs Most of the denomination doesn’t support that, but this is sadly how things work for us:
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The Presbyterian Church (USA), the largest Presbyterian denomination in the United States, has passed a measure expressing support for body-deforming sex-change surgeries for youth exhibiting gender dysphoria.
Wow....the church has lost its compass.
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@goneers @MichelleHa44102 Come check out an Eastern Orthodox Church. It’s the most conservative, unchanging and ancient Christianity there is. It refuses to bend to the secular world.
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@MichelleHa44102 She starts this Sunday. I'm not sticking around to find out.
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Welp. I'm very sorry to say that the church I've been a member of for 36 years has chosen a new pastor. A woman (that's not the problem) who is a No Kings protester and has a trans kid.
I'm out.
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My faith absolutely strives for union with God…that’s the goal of the Christian life (John 17:21-23, 2 Peter 1:4).
What I won’t say is that we merge into God’s essence or dissolve into some impersonal “source,” because that’s not what Orthodoxy teaches and it’s not what those verses say.
Essence/energies isn’t Kabbalah, it’s Palamas defending the biblical distinction: we partake of God’s uncreated life (energies) while remaining creatures, not swallowed into His being (essence). That’s the opposite of pantheism, not a version of it like you’re suggesting.
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@WattsUpJordan @deesine @sanderson1611 End the confusion and Just say it straight, "My faith is not striving to become one with God."
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Orthodox Theosis Doctrine is Blasphemous and Evil
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