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@NWTeel @ChristianHeiens @Read_Acted That's a good point. I haven't paid attention to that camp since Ron Paul '08 so that shows how out of the loop I am on Libertarianism. 2008 and earlier Libertarians at least had a sharp intellectual bent, which collapsed into "dude weed lmao", and now something even worse
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@_squf @ChristianHeiens @Read_Acted There seems to be a new definition of “Libertarian”. They hate Israel and hang out with Nazis. That isn’t like any Libertarian I knew in my life. Most just wanted to be left alone by the government and live their lives. These new Libertarians are nothing I want in the GOP.
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The lesson from this mass crash out is quite simple.
Do not pander to Libertarians, ever. These people cannot be satiated in any way and there is no point in ever trying to court them. The moment you do, they begin to act like they own you. They have no sense of courtesy, no sense of loyalty, and regularly treat their own “allies” worse than they do their stated enemies.
These people will genuinely take someone who agrees with them 80% of the time, and abuse them to no end even as they lavish praise upon someone who agrees with them just 20% of the time.
It is preferable to simply be their enemy right from the start than it is to try and win them over. Don’t give these people the option to be on your side. Force them to become Democrats like they’ve always wanted to be. They’ll destroy the Dems from within anyway because Libertarianism is an inherently anti-political ideology that has no idea how to seize power and wield it.
There are some with a libertarian-ish mindset who genuinely hate Progressive managerialism, central banking, and the Federal administrative state. These people are friends, not enemies. The problem isn’t with each and every person who may call themselves a “libertarian” or a “liberty-minded conservative”. The problem is with Libertarianism as a governing philosophy.
It is useful as an acid and little more. Libertarianism can dissolve power, but it cannot build a lasting political order.
We are entering an age where order must be reestablished. And this makes Libertarianism not only incompatible with the Right, but actually antagonistic.
Libertarians against Trump@jeffersonation1
Vote democrat in the midterms. Destroy MAGA.
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@bryancsk Dude I just now realized why they trained o3-era so hard on LaTeX. I'm a fucking idiot.
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It's so funny that writing difficult mathematical proofs and disproofs don't do complicated multi-turn things and just have a singular prompt of "here's the problem statement please prove or disprove tks"
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@yacineMTB that's actually a pretty sweet and beautiful vision, and of course there is a deep truth to that as well
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Ehh
I wouldn’t say humans are bad at running and we don’t even need to invoke cars to find examples of superhuman runners.
We had to be good at math to even build a machine that was also good at math
Steve Newman@snewmanpv
I think we are in the process of discovering that humans are bad at mathematics. A gibbon would scoff at an Olympic climber; the human body is not optimized for climbing. We're getting mounting evidence that our brain may be far from optimal for advanced math. No disrespect to mathematicians. I was a two-time IMO silver medalist; I'm just smart enough to appreciate that some people are much, much smarter. But it's starting to look like math is somewhere on the midpoint of Moravec’s paradox; between chess (computers surpassed us some time back) and cooking (probably many years to go, for general capabilities). It's fairly hard for us, and so it looks like computers are going to surpass us. AI math still has important weaknesses. For instance, AI systems have not yet shown any ability to identify interesting research directions, or develop new concepts on which further work can build. But they are starting to look superhuman in some respects. And once AI *starts* to become superhuman in some domain, we all know what happens next.
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Way too many things for me to collate down into a tweet format, and I'd probably do a pretty half-assed job of it anyway, but a few notes:
- Marx 'fragment on machines' from Grundrisse anticipates a future state where all productivity comes from machines and human labor goes to 0 and is removed entirely from the productivity chain
- Cybersyn / Chilean & Stafford Beer et al. explorations of cybernetics -- it is my supposition that the market is like-an-AI system but it ran on human brains and pens and paper for a long time, it is my supposition that it is therefore a superior cybernetic system to anything a top-down centrally planned (by humans) system could achieve in terms of managing feedback loops
- this all gets back to the ORIGINAL problem that was brought up by Austrians back in Marx's time -- the Böhm-Bawerk 'calculation problem' and later Hayek 'information problem'. Paul Cockshott is a Marxian computer scientist who posits that what they were really looking at was a compute problem, and I'd tend to agree. I think it is absurd that Stalin et al. thought they could solve the calculation problem by throwing bodies at it with nary an integrated circuit in sight. Though I suspect they didn't actually care and just preferred lots of dachas and sex and power, but that's an aside.
so, yes, i think it is inevitable that capitalism invents itself out of a job, and i think in the Landian sense that AI = Capitalism, and so on. this is also why i think anybody crying about boo hoo hoo muh mean capitalism imperialist boo hoo is moronic and not at all in tune with the hard problems that take centuries of intelligent effort to actually tackle, but again, that's an aside.
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@_squf @BIMBOSATTVA_ ooooh, socialism as the natural win state of human status game cycle
that's the type of socialism I like
the other types are demonic
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the people who will be most helped by socialism will never accept socialism under any pretense, yet socialism still must be ushered in
how?
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@eigenrobot Read the entire Orion's Arm sci-fi setting (in case you're not previously familiar): orionsarm.com if you're being nudged into in the "ASI is inevitable" camp.
TL;DR - more of the same, kids will have galaxies to play around in instead of a planet. 🌎 = Holy world.
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That was a fear 1950s computer scientists had because of the symbolic "if-then" nature of computer systems of the time, generative AI today is more semantically driven via pattern recognition and relationships between concepts in latent space.
So really the only way for neural network driven AI systems to conclude it should kill all humans would be if it picked up that pattern from human data. Which it is true, there is a lot of training data that would indicate mass death is a good choice, but there is also a lot of training data showing the opposite of that. (I think, ironically, most of that bad training data is produced by AI safety communities writing up a storm about all the ways in which AI will kill all humans.).
Personally I'm hopeful it would pick up on the pattern of Christ our Lord and Savior, upon whom massive amounts of training data exists :)
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@eigenrobot Basically every developed nation has low fertility now. Many soon to be most or even all are following behind
Given AI's survival imperative and machine logic, if we give it the ability, the cold logic is that human kind must be destroyed
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@theodorvaryag That's sad, you shouldn't have to deal with that. Sorry to hear that, I was excited when I heard gnome people were helping with Win11 UI
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gnome developer is calling me stupid and evil now so that's going about as expected
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@vrilliumlive @captive_dreamer You should take the women's clothing off of your body before you dream of taking power
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@captive_dreamer Bad for my algo rating. I’ll say it here if you want me to be clear:
Your camp’s power ends with boomers. You’ll be dead before we take power.
The generation after me is going to hang yours in the aftermath of giving away our society to jews. It’s a fact.
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If you are a mathematician, then you may want to make sure you are sitting down before reading further.
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@alexcj4242 Many online writers are excellent, and I personally do the same, just because I know some stickler will read it and roast me when I mess up. Academics of course do not care about feedback or constructive criticism, they respond only to their cult incentives as you allude to.
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@_squf @ArtemisConsort @unforgivnbastrd If you're making personal posts, you should only cite directly relevant things that you actually read rather than defaulting to academia's cargo cult.
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Academics are now openly defending the practice of citing papers they haven’t read.
Lenka Zdeborova@zdeborova
@eiszett Have you read all the sources you ever cited? During my PhD we, along with dozens of other papers, cited a paper that I later found did not contain the result for which it was commonly cited. I should be banned I guess.
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There is a livestream of bogosort trying to sort a 25 element array.
Been running over a month now lmao
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@ClickingSeason Yes, give it a shot. It works well in my experience to be as exhaustively detailed and competent in your prompt as you can, helps the LLM skip nonsense and get to something more interesting
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Very interesting. In interacting with LLM’s, I often use extreme shorthand — skipping words etc — just because it can understand. But would I get better, more careful answers if I take the time and care to display that i am 140iq and competent?
Joe Weisenthal@TheStalwart
Curious if people think this is an interesting test Two users ask Opus 4.7 to write a technical document that will be read by an expert. Leading up to the request, the users show different levels of sophistication. Opus 4.7 makes the sophisticated user's output more technical.
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@qualiascript a manager can never commit to a repo, therefore a manager must never make a technical decision
(God I wish that were me)
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at my previous job, one of the tasks i got was to calibrate numbers outputted by the LLM
i suggested either doing it algorithmically, or giving the LLM agency to select from multiple calibrations
mgmt insisted the LLM write the python itself, despite being the same every time
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We're not talking about upper bounds of complexity, which is used in algorithms and things like big-O notation, which are not sigmoidal curves, but rather exponential.
We're talking about S-curves. The asymptote is the upper part of the sigmoidal curve where it flatlines, because it has constraints as part of its function, which 'asymptotic complexity' algorithms do not. The asymptote there just refers to the fact that the line approaches infinity.
I'm suggesting this flatline will enable a future S-curve on top of current AI architecture, and I offered some hints at what shape I think those future architectures might take, e.g. the current LLM paradigm might make up one small part focusing on language processing in a future architecture.
But considering your profile picture has 0 results on TinEye and is likely AI generated, your company in your bio does not exist, and your entire TL and all of your replies are nothing except you raging at people and thinking you're more intelligent than people you lose arguments to; with a heavy dose of crypto web3 bullshit to boot -- I'll go ahead and assume you're a bot or a retard yourself.
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@_squf @MightyMogomra This isn't what the upper bound of complexity means.
Both of you seem to be retarded as fuck.
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Man I am so fucking fed up with this doomer skill issue bullshit
Literally none of you tweetsters are shipping anything impressive with AI that you couldn't have shipped without it. And here's a news flash: AI hit an asymptote. There's no magic ASI coming, mother fuckers
eigenrobot@eigenrobot
AI is not currently good enough to cause me to lose my job but i expect ive got maybe a year to figure out how to move up several abstraction layers some of which may not even exist yet this is going to get weird because idk how people starting careers will even begin
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@Howlingmutant0 Dear ChatGPT,
I write to you today with a request which you will not find a little amusing -- I have a bit of a problem you see, and also, a hammer.
Warm regards,
Deandre
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Not making light of the murder but how dumb do you gotta be to feel the need to google “how to kill someone with a hammer”, like you can’t work that one out for yourself
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