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The real alpha begins with understanding the power of composable autonomous agents. A simple DCA agent is familiar enough, but combine it with a limit order agent, and now you’re hedging. Add yield farming, and you’re boosting capital efficiency. Imagine the potential when on-chain AI decision-making joins the mix. It’s all about composability and @aoTheComputer is the best place to build it!

America is a nation of builders Soon, you will be free to build

@integral_wizard > is literally everything you want a blockchain to be this could have been true. i was with you for a while. the biggest problem is kyc to run a node. that isnt really how anyone in crypto wants their blockchain to be. this is why most people ignore it

@chelseakomlo @bjoerntm @lightcoin @JuanCai62354071 @januszg_ @BitcoinLayers @bjoernassmann the thing they are screeching about is not cryptography subconsciously they know that there is no security difference you are talking to a cult. the leader has proclaimed it is trustless, in defiance of the truth. their minions will defend it ad nauseam save your breath.

A threshold signature scheme can certainly push logic to the verifier; cases where this does not occur generally assume some structured secret sharing scheme (i.e, Shamir), but these are special cases. Multisignatures (n-of-n) are likewise a special case of threshold signatures. See for example S. 5.1 of eprint.iacr.org/2022/1636.pdf

Initial review on ICP is complete. The ICP “Bitcoin Integration” enables ICP canisters (smart contracts) to have a view into Bitcoin state, have bitcoin addresses, make bitcoin transactions, etc. Our review, however, primarily focuses on the ckBTC canister and its corresponding subnet. This is (basically) the primary subnet users will interact with if they move BTC over to the ICP network. ICP is a network of subnet blockchains. These subnets range from 13-28 nodes typically. Operators of these subnets are professional node operators who are selected via ICP’s token governance mechanism. These node operators also undergo a KYB process before running an ICP node. The ‘pzp6e…’ subnet is the subnet that is responsible for the minting, burning, and storing of BTC that support ckBTC on ICP. The subnet's 28 node operators additionally take part in a multisig that uses a tECDSA scheme to mint and burn ckBTC tokens, and permit BTC payouts for withdrawals. If 10/28 of the signers in this scheme were to collude, they could steal all the BTC in the multisig. The primary risks regarding data availability & storage, liveness, settlement and custody lie with this subnet. Users can transact across ICP subnets with ckBTC, but nodes in the ‘pzp6e…’ subnet are responsible for settling transactions and keeping an archive of state related to transfers involving the ckBTC token. Thus, users are primarily trusting this network of 28 nodes with operating the network and maintaining the custody of their funds. They are trusting that at least 10 of these operators will remain honest and not steal funds. For example, when using an application like @bioniqhq on ICP, you leverage the ckBTC token and are trusting the ‘pzp6e…’. The reason were calling this a review of ICP, versus ckBTC, is because there are a few additional trust assumptions past the ‘pzp6e…’ subnet. We’ve also seen ICP called a “bitcoin L2”. Full write up and some relevant links below.

@cb_doge no no dw bro, all you need to do is put a chip in your brain so that you stop incorrectly thinking you have a chip in your brain. because then you will actually have a chip in your brain.

"We just wanted to make it clear that we have only one person with a Neuralink chip in their brain. For those who think we have put a chip in their brain, we would like to assure you that we have not put any chip in your brain." 😂

@ercwl @januszg_ @dominic_w

@januszg_ Meanwhile, @dominic_w is still out there trying to scam people by saying ckBTC is a ”trustless bitcoin twin”

@JuanCai62354071 @januszg_ ...you know that is exactly the security model of a multisig, right? multisig: many individual key sigs. quorum of sigs needed to execute a tx. mpc (including tECDSA): quorum of key shards creates a single signature a tx. different cryptography, same effect.

@januszg_ Is not a simple “multisig” it’s called chain key cryptography. Private key never is stored on a single node and never exists in reconstructed form.

@blockworksres 2023: We shall have decentralized governance by our community! 2024:

3/ The point of the staking proposal is to align incentives and increase voter participation, which has been declining.

1/ ArbitrumDAO governance has reached a critical juncture with three new proposals that could significantly shape the DAO's future: - ARB staking - New transaction ordering policy - Increasing the base gas fee What is Blockworks' research perspective on these proposals? A 🧵

@sowmaler @samecwilliams @ArweaveEco AO's incentives drive liquidity right into its economy, boosting value for its apps and users. ICP had a chance to do this, too, but chose to hand those tokens to VCs instead. I like ICP, but the reality is clear: we haven't nailed DeFi adoption.

@samecwilliams @ArweaveEco I mean people are mining the AO token using stETH. It's not hard to figure out. If those projects were giving free token worth potentially billions people would flock to lock their other assets.

1 week after the launch of AO's pre-bridge: ➡️$368m deposited This makes AO's onchain TVL larger than Aptos, NEAR, Cardano, Fantom, Algorand, ICP, Filecoin, and many, many others. Remember: This is long-term. 21m. 4 year halving. @ArweaveEco's liquidity engine just booted up.

@drownwave @dominic_w @aoTheComputer @samecwilliams @Allquantor07 Don't you get it yet? They don't care about you or ICP. You're embarrassing yourself and the ecosystem

Pro-tip. Design for a fake World Computer: 1. Run centralized compute on unknowns 2. Claim unknowns kept honest by fraud proofs 3. Launch w/o challenges + fraud proofs ...bc they obviously aren't possible w complex interlinked compute... I'll say no more 😱

@JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs @rnjskywalker Normal people aren't choosing TCP or UDP, but it happens for them. Normal people aren't choosing WEBM or MP4, but it happens for them. Normal people on AO aren't choosing their list of Authorities. Its the same thing. Devs will customize the stack and users will consume.

@lastmjs @rnjskywalker @aoLightBringer Again, that’s what you want, normal people that are not developers are not thinking “ o wait let’s choose this consensus “ “les choose this hardware “ this are not technical limitations, can be implemented, you been told this many times at this point in time

Follow this thread that @lastmjs has opened, he looks very interested in this topic. I don’t know why AO founder keep claiming they have “on chain” computation when clearly they don’t forum.dfinity.org/t/lets-review-…

@sowmaler @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs Yes. I hope for that, too. Just unclear when it will reach NNS. I like that I can run 64b processes on @aoTheComputer now in the meantime.

@aoLightBringer @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs This limitation is a result of WASM32. ICP and most wasm based smart contract chains will upgrade to wasm64.

@lastmjs @JaMarc0 @sowmaler @JuanCai62354071 Yep. hoping for that

@aoLightBringer @JaMarc0 @sowmaler @JuanCai62354071 Will be gone soon enough, Wasm64 is coming to ICP

@JaMarc0 @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs I read the @aoTheComputer docs when it first came out. What you are stating, as far as I understand, is simply factually incorrect. What did you see that I didn't? Both ICP and AO use WASM. The difference is that ICP forces a set to agree on the result at runtime. AO is flexible

@aoLightBringer @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs "AO is onchain just as much as ICP is onchain." No, it isnt. AO provides no guarantees the processes it runs are correct

@JuanCai62354071 @rnjskywalker @lastmjs .@ArweaveEco is old. They started at about the same time as @dfinity. I was skeptical too, but then I dove deep on the tech. It makes sense. Probably unwise to dismiss something just because it is new. @aoTheComputer is 'fair launch' too so no need to let your bags blind you.

@aoLightBringer @rnjskywalker @lastmjs And that’s it, this guys came from no where to be honest, that’s the simple and easiest world computer competitor I’ve seen, at least polkadot forces themselves to keep the blockchain paradigm live. This guys avoid every blockchain property

Lots of debate about modular vs monolithic protocols recently. @aoTheComputer is extremely modular, @dfinity is extremely monolithic. Below is helpful for understanding why modular will likely win. This is just a replay of the Protocol Wars.

@JuanCai62354071 @rnjskywalker @lastmjs Below is a diagram of the internet stack. It is made of a number of different layers with differing protocols. Read up on the Protocol Wars of the 1970s: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_… The IP stack won because it could be morphed to any use case.

@aoLightBringer @rnjskywalker @lastmjs With AO flexible security model, do you think it can solve enterprise cybersecurity issues without putting them a new barrier where they have to build Their own consensus and adapt that protocol to their needs? Do u think that’s realistic? Enterprise love to build and deploy..

@JaMarc0 @sowmaler @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs But 4 GB is not.

@aoLightBringer @sowmaler @JuanCai62354071 @lastmjs "Aren't ICP's memory limits now 3 GB per canister?" No, its a soft limit that can be opted out of

@JuanCai62354071 @rnjskywalker @lastmjs >Decentralized non verifiable computation This is just wrong. All computation on AO _is_ verifiable. The only question is how to quickly gain trustworthy knowledge of the outputs of the computation. ICP forces one model which is why we have struggled with AI. AO is flexible.

@aoLightBringer @rnjskywalker @lastmjs What are the real world problems solving AO? What’s the added value of that technology in to the real world? Decentralized non verifiable computation? Systems built on top of it not secured by default?