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@ariaapollo23

Katılım Eylül 2022
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@Kantrowitz It’s very simple - most people don’t know that when he says “intelligence”, he means compute/ generative output. They think he literally means education and human brains.
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@_bbrandonn_ No one is saying the ball was moving…the point is he has to maintain control of the ball for a reasonable amount of time after contacting the ground. He did not.
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@tinyshinyhiney @LedyardNFLDraft The difference is what happened before they went to the ground. Adams completed the process of a catch and then went to the ground. Cooks did not complete the catch before going to the ground. Difference is basically a half second of holding the “caught” ball before going down
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Ash’s Heracross@tinyshinyhiney·
@LedyardNFLDraft They were not different at all Both players “survived” the ground in the exact same way - they both had knees hit the ground, and then immediately had the ball ripped out by the defense It would be hard for the two plays to be any more similar than they already are
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Jon Ledyard
Jon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft·
I'm sure everyone will be rational about this, but Cooks was going to the ground as an act of the catch and did not survive the ground. Adams caught it, then was hit and tackled down by contact before losing the ball. 2 very different plays.
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Doug Kyed@DougKyed·
I understand why Bills fans don't want to understand why it's not a catch. They're emotional and invested. It's natural. They're quite literally coping. I genuinely don't understand how anyone who is not a Bills fan does not understand that Cooks didn't survive the ground. It does not matter that for a fraction of a second his knee is down, and he was touched. That's not the rule. The moment he hit the ground, he lost control, and the ball wound up in McMillian's arms.
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D@ariaapollo23·
@716tax Wasn’t a tie ball. A tie ball is where both players have possession. Receiver never had possession here, as ruled by the officials (it’s subjective, you can disagree but that’s what they ruled)
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@_bbrandonn_ Always has been! Find a clip where it wasn’t, I dare you
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So from now on you can just pick the ball up off a downed receivers chest and it’s a pick, good to know. Hopefully this rule is consistently applied in the future!
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@jzulgad They usually do try to if they’re in position to do so…
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@ToddHallidy Yes and this has always been the case…
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Todd Hallidy
Todd Hallidy@ToddHallidy·
Just so we're clear, from now on: In the NFL, if I catch a pass in the open field, and sorta roll onto to my side as I secure the ball before it hits the ground, a defender can grab it out of my hands and it's an interception.
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D@ariaapollo23·
@B0stonS22 @DougKyed It’s actually not different at all. Why do you think it’s different?
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JBinthe603@B0stonS22·
@DougKyed The ground dislodging the ball is different than a DB wrestling it away for an int
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D@ariaapollo23·
@BringerOfRain20 Because he caught the ball and made a football move first. He didn’t catch it while going to the ground…
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Josh Donaldson@BringerOfRain20·
Interesting they called him down!!
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Justin Sorenson@Jusorenson·
@redandyellowca1 @Matty_KCSN But for how long? There is no definition is my point. Everyone just says survive the ground and there is no definition of what that is.
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Matt Lane
Matt Lane@Matty_KCSN·
I honestly don’t get the confusion. If the ball popped out and landed on the ground, it would be called incomplete 10/10 times. Cooks never kept possession for even half a second when “surviving the ground”
Dan Hanzus@DanHanzus

WHAT. IS. A. CATCH.

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D@ariaapollo23·
@SneakyJoeSports Surviving the ground also means surviving a DB ripping the ball out. The play wasn’t over.
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D@ariaapollo23·
@Scottswheels @VanceLawrence @DougKyed How can you prove that via video? It’s a subjective call like pass interference. You can disagree about it. There’s no objective answer.
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Scott@Scottswheels·
@ariaapollo23 @VanceLawrence @DougKyed he has control you could argue simultaneous with the defender before he is rolled completely over but the offense gets the catch
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Ben DiNucci
Ben DiNucci@B_DiNucci6·
This is an INT every time. If defender isn’t part of the play and the ball comes free - it’s incomplete Cooks never has control of the ball
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D@ariaapollo23·
@IamCurrie247 @nateanthony_ @B_DiNucci6 He didn’t survive impact. He has to hold on to the ball for a period of time after hitting the ground. He had it for like half a second. Not long enough.
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Joe Youngblood - SEO, Futurology, AI, Marketing
@B_DiNucci6 Cooks has control of the ball. Even if the ground causes it to wobble a little, that doesn't mean he would have lost full control of it. Football move, knee down, touched by defender = end of play, WR catch.
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D@ariaapollo23·
@ryKeough @HopsLaw @DougKyed He has to survive the ground and continue to maintain possession for a period of time. It has always been this way. It’s not 3 Mississippi as it is subjective up to the refs, but there has ALWAYS been a time element
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@ryKeough
@ryKeough@ryKeough·
@HopsLaw @DougKyed How is the play not over in image 2 if he’s touched in image 1? So you’re making up a new rule that he HAS TO SURVIVE THE GROUND AND A 3 MISSISSIPPI COUNT WHILE A DEFENDER RIPS AT THE BALL? Lol. That’s not the rule. “Play not over when touched” that’s a new one too.
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D@ariaapollo23·
@ryKeough @ooze92 @DougKyed There has always been a time element for how long a player has to survive the ground. It’s subjective but it’s not instantaneous. He has to maintain possession for like a second and a half on the ground, which he did not
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@ryKeough
@ryKeough@ryKeough·
@ooze92 @DougKyed You see these are different images? Image 2 comes after image 1. This would imply, across a spectrum of motion, since 2 comes after 1 — that he survived the ground…. Seems we are trying to write in a time element here of how long he must survive for
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