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I’ll keep the self-flagellation private thank you.

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MAYBE one day powerless humans will stop fighting and trying to gain power over each other and realize the only real reason we hate each other is because we’re afraid to lose power over ourselves. MAYBE eventually we’ll understand that the problem isn’t with other powerless people. It will always be those who currently have power over us. They’re the ones deciding our laws and as such our lives and will happily and periodically take a “side” in these pointless battles to keep the tensions between us flaring. I’ve seen plenty of people saying this… MAYBE one day the rabid populace will notice.
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@adje__ It’s called pain compliance. It’s the only way to get him properly detained. Are you suggesting they just sit there until he gets bored and gives up?
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Hasan on Shoe0nHead including him in her latest video “Do you want me to..sh**t myself in the face..lose significant chunks of my brain so I can operate at the same substandard sub optimal IQ level that Shoe0nHead and her dumb F audience operates..to John Fetterman myself..so I can understand the compelling argument that Shoe0nHead makes" "Oh look at me..as an emo girl..4 chan guys who are now 38 yo want to f-p to me..why would u openly admit that u listen to Shoe0nHead in 2026..basically a humanoid version of a reddit aggregator..if ur getting ur politics from a person like Shoe0nHead, u should be embarrassed"
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The worst kind of vaginal discharge.
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@nicole_clash I mean I’ll happily “fuck off”, but being honest and realistic isn’t automatically doom posting. Especially when it’s the most likely outcome. 🤷🏻
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Nic0le@nicole_clash·
“Why would we let AI take our jobs and rely on the government?” What people don’t realize is, AI is GOING to take your jobs, most of them. It’s already starting. And unless the government is willing to SHOOT every single person that uses AI (unrealistic), most traditional jobs will be more efficiently done by an AI or an automation. It is incredibly naive to think that “bombing the data centers” will stop the progression. You can shut down all the major AI labs today and it would barely make a difference. I can go on and on about why yes, the AI and the robots are in fact coming for your jobs. If you knew what I knew, you would believe me. For the purpose of this argument, let’s just assume that I am right, that AI is going to take the majority of jobs. When people lose their jobs, most people are gonna be royally fucked. They have rent to pay, kids to take care of. Food, water, etc. We need the government to step in. The alternative is, people die. Or they resort to stealing, looting, etc. “But if the government pays everyone, that’s communism/ socialism!” Wrong. If the government shuts down the free market, and gave everyone food water and shelter, that would be communism. It is infinitely better for the government to give people cash than raw resources. It lets the average person have the purchasing power to shape the free market. Why is the distinction important? Because the beauty of capitalism is, it pushes innovation and surfaces the best products to consumers. It lets the average person be able to start their own business. For example, suddenly there are more artists in the world. More musicians. More game developers. The people having cash in their hands means that they can use it to support their favorite art, music, games. “I doubt the government is actually gonna pay people, they’re corrupt and evil.” Yes, the government is corrupt. But what you have to realize is, even the government has incentives. When AI increases the efficiency of every single company, there will be more taxes collected from the corporations (see below tweet). It is in the government’s best interest to reinvest that money back into the economy in the form of UBI/ UHI. Most people who are against what I’m saying, and what @elonmusk said, assumes that the choice is between “AI taking our jobs and we rely on the government.” vs “We keep our jobs.” That is not what the choice is though. The real question is, what should the government do to make this brutal transition period the least painful as possible? It gets very very nuanced, but it absolutely has to start with the government giving people cash. That is the only way. The alternative is a communist police state with people starving, dying, looting, and rioting. And absolutely no one, not even the government, wants that.
Nic0le@nicole_clash

Elon is right. People who argue from the side of "where would the money come from?" and "if everyone has a million dollars no one has a million dollars" does not quite grasp the amount of surplus we are about to have in the world due to AI and automations. Yes, traditionally it is a monumentally bad idea to pump a ton of money back into the economy like this. inflation, higher taxes, etc. But what people don't realize is, as AI progress, the profit margin of EVERY company is going to increase. every single company in the world will be able to do much more with much less costs. It's not "we need to tax all the AI companies", it's we will be taxing EVERY SINGLE COMPANY. In a world where 90% of human labor can be replaced, and the companies are operating at 10x their current profit margins, why would us taxing the companies at the same rate not result in 10x the amount of taxes collected from companies? That is where the money comes from. And you might think 'corporate greed' and 'corrupt government' might prevent them from giving out a universal high income with that money, but corporate greed is exactly why the government will be incentivized to do so. If no one has money to buy things, no companies get rich. the economy just crashes, which is extremely bad even if you are a greedy politician. We need the money gained from the higher profit margins of companies to be pumped back into the economy in the form of universal HIGH INCOME.

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@gmiller A top tier gaming pc and the ability to prompt games I will love. Never gonna happen though. The components of the PC alone are finite and as such, not subject to post-scarcity.
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Geoffrey Miller@gmiller·
Imagine you're living in the hypothetical 'Post-Scarcity Utopia of Limitless Abundance'. The supersmart AIs and robots will build you anything you ask for. What's the most wildly extravagant thing you would want them to create for you? (The more specific, the better.)
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@nicole_clash Transition to what though? Dystopian future. It won’t be merely the transition that will be brutal.
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Nic0le@nicole_clash·
@blighted_one_ I was not claiming that it’s going to be a utopia in my post. In fact, I explicitly called it a “brutal transition period.”
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Bonchie@bonchieredstate·
Pro-tip to the AI enthusiasts: If you want people to actually support it, stop telling them AI will end all jobs while they get a check from the government and every tyrannical string that comes with it.
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@nicole_clash Again I never claimed to have a solution. Only that it’s not going to be the utopia people are claiming it’ll be.
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@nicole_clash Of course not. That’s the problem. Being inevitable doesnt prevent it from being dystopian. We’re in for some bad times ahead when the ruling class gets that much power. They love power too much and won’t allow themselves to be replaced.
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Nic0le@nicole_clash·
@blighted_one_ I mean sure, but do you have a better solution than them giving people money when the mass unemployment hits? Let’s assume that mass unemployment is happening.
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@drydenwtbrown Fuck the purpose aspect of it. I can make my own purpose. The issue is being dependent upon the government for my survival to the point that stepping out of line could cost me even basic needs. The government controls the money and the robot police. How do we disagree with gov?
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@elonmusk Then the government can decide who gets this money and who doesn’t and when the government controls all the police robots, they’ll be able to take any right away they want. How does even an armed populace defend against an army of robots?
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Elon Musk@elonmusk·
Universal HIGH INCOME via checks issued by the Federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI. AI/robotics will produce goods & services far in excess of the increase in the money supply, so there will not be inflation.
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@Grummz Nothing good can come from our entire lives depending on government money, allowing them to set conditions on which you can have said money. Even worse is when we stop using money and then the corporations that control all goods and services then demand conditions to have access
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Grummz@Grummz·
Good morning. I think many economists are struggling with this. Because yes, yes "if everyone is a millionaire, nobody is." and "increased productivity does not mean increased wages historically" etc. This is a common fallacy. I dunno if it has a name, but it's where everyone assumes current conditions remain the same, then base their argument against the future based on everything remaining the same. The one thing we do know, nothing remains the same. Elon is not looking at world where we still have regular jobs, regular companies even, or even ...dare I say it...money as we know it. It's a very difficult future to see, and it could go many ways. Many bad ways too. In fact, I sometimes feel like Dr. Strange, peering into the the future of endless bad outcomes, only seeing a few good ones. I'm sure Elon feels it even worse. I don't think money is going to matter in the future, and that UBI is just a stepping stone to ease the transition to a very strange post-scarcity world. A world where everything is provided to you, and the only input that matters is energy. Every argument against the future, or prediction of the future, must be weighed against this new tapestry of future conditions, which will be radically different.
Elon Musk@elonmusk

Universal HIGH INCOME via checks issued by the Federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI. AI/robotics will produce goods & services far in excess of the increase in the money supply, so there will not be inflation.

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@PostDisclosure So our money will come from the government and as such from 6 big tech companies and they both pinky promise to never use your UBI as a condition to compliance.
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
Being against UBI is totally fine. But so many of the arguments people make against it insult my intelligence. For example, the idea that if people aren't forced to work, they will lose all meaning. Many people dislike their jobs so much that they would trade working just to survive for the possibilities downtime opens up. Since when do we find meaning in doing something we despise? Has work for survival become our new idol? What about spiritual work, reading and studying, teaching, family time, growing food, working out, enjoying hobbies, and so forth? I'd flip this whole conversation—the fact that so many people think work is the primary source of meaning is a bigger problem than people having the option not to work. And UBI wouldn’t make working impossible; it just means people could be much more selective about what kind of work they do. That’s freedom and agency at its best.
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Elon Musk@elonmusk·
Actually, AI/Robotics will mean everyone can have a penthouse if they want. The output of goods & services will be several orders of magnitude higher than today’s economy. Read the Iain Banks Culture books for the best imagining of how it will be. That said, what is the future you want? Amazing abundance seems the best to me.
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@Unconventi33449 @DocStrangelove2 Yeah, I don’t know if the likes on this are for or against, but I said it was his proof. Not my proof. I think it’s dumb to have such a visceral anger towards people stacking rocks. 🤷🏻
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nonBlack girls wearing bonnet pisses me the fuck off so bad irdc if you dont think its not that deep btw.
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