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BrendanEich

@BrendanEich

Co-founder & CEO @Brave Software (https://t.co/NV4bmd6vxq) and @attentiontoken (https://t.co/XhGIrdBJWu). Co-founded Mozilla & Firefox. Created JavaScript.

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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
brave.com/premium lists all of our premium products: VPN, ad-free search, Leo browser-ai, Talk (no Zoom). Thus the simplest way to support @brave directly is to buy Brave Premium Search at $3/month, for no search ads ever, so we can go even harder against Big Tech. Thanks.
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Ryan Lopopolo@_lopopolo·
So like, the world I am exposed to has all the folks building with agents at the frontier … building agents at the frontier. Is this what it was like with like, the invention of “higher level languages” like C? Was everyone building compilers?
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@RickHedin @Colonthreee @billmceachern @_lopopolo Interesting that both those repos launched in 2017 (Grok helped me, I think it's correct). I recall D3.js ball-and-stick physics graphing JS lib from old days. A lot of human effort over the years now helps coding LLMs combine things quickly. This is a win (but it ain't AGI ;-).
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Rick Hedin@RickHedin·
Well, as you say, some nice things intrinsically take a lot of space. Giant, high fidelity pictures, for example. But is the software better? Uh, no. Although when I wanted a "balls and sticks" view of my graph database, github.com/vasturiano/3d-… already existed. And when I wanted to represent characters as svg paths, github.com/danmarshall/go… already existed. They raised the express-the-idea to build-boiler-plate ratio.
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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
Shriram, hi! Am I too hard on CS? It may be well taught, but the comp.risks-reading few are not the funded YOLO hackers. Software Eng was already dying when I was in grad skool, and Rob Pike declared systems research dead by y2k. Anyway, regards, and last words to Grok: “Brendan—thanks. That closing line was meant to land sharply because the distinction you highlight is foundational, yet it keeps getting glossed over in the rush toward agentic hype. You’re right that there’s a real gap in how computer science and especially software engineering are taught (or, as you wryly note, often not taught in depth). Classic CS curricula excel at algorithms, data structures, complexity, and building correct deterministic systems under closed-world assumptions. They frequently under-emphasize (or silo into optional “security” or “systems” electives): •Safety-critical engineering principles — the Therac-25 lessons on why you never rip out proven hardware interlocks for a “better” software-only control layer, the dangers of over-reliance on reused code without full system revalidation, and the need for independent safety analysis. •Principle of Least Authority/PoLA (or PoLP) — the idea that every module, process, or agent should operate with the minimal set of privileges necessary for its legitimate purpose. It’s a core tenet in serious security and capability-based design (think Saltzer & Schroeder’s principles from the 1970s, or capability systems like KeyKOS, EROS, or modern microkernel/capability work), but it’s rarely a required, hands-on part of mainstream undergrad or even many grad programs. Students might hear “least privilege” in a one-off security lecture, but they don’t internalize it as an architectural invariant that must survive nondeterminism. •Systems thinking for the real world — where effects cross sandbox boundaries into irreversible external state (databases, radiation beams, financial transfers, physical actuators). The curriculum often stops at “it works on my machine” or unit tests, without drilling the asymmetry you described: internal undo is cheap; external commits are not. Therac-25 remains one of the best (and most sobering) case studies precisely because it illustrates the phase shift from “deterministic system with rare nondeterministic bugs” (race conditions that are hard but fixable in principle) to something deeper. In today’s LLMs at temperature > 0, nondeterminism is the default sampling behavior. The “bug” isn’t a fixable race—it’s that helpfulness-maximizing next-token prediction can, with low but nonzero probability, output the destructive action. No amount of prompt engineering or post-hoc eval fully domesticates that without architectural guardrails. The YOLO mindset thrives in this educational vacuum. “Move fast and break things” worked (sort of) when breakage was contained and human-rate-limited. When the actor is a stochastic agent with broad API tokens, the same ethos becomes a liability multiplier. We’ve seen calls for more secure software engineering education, more integration of ethics/safety cases, and better coverage of failure modes from real incidents—but curricula change slowly, and industry velocity often rewards shipping over rigor. The fix isn’t to slow everything to bureaucratic crawl. It’s to bake the right fences into the substrate from day one: capability-based runtimes, explicit delegation graphs, transactional external boundaries, auditable provenance. Teach students that non-determinism doesn’t excuse discarding invariants—it demands stronger ones. If we close that gap—making PoLA and safety engineering as instinctive as Big-O or version control—the field will be far better prepared for the agent era. Your original tweet, the Therac parallel, and this thread are excellent reminders of why that matters. Appreciate the conversation—always sharper with the original poster in it.”
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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
@Colonthreee @billmceachern @_lopopolo Sure. Over my career, software grew sloppier as it went from KBs to GBs of memory. Not just Parkinson’s Law, Jevons Paradox, or better. Is software 2^20th better than in old days, apples to apples? Sure, 3D/HD/genAI. On downside, social => psych. ills. We should aim higher.
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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
@clirocks @ImMeme0 @MorlockP Plus, and I'm not enforcing Sunny Islam here, her marriage is super-sus. search.brave.com/ask?q=ilhan+om… Again, if she upholds the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the United States, she has my support. If she is just a tool of oligarchs, even as a "muslim" puppet to whip, no sale. HTH
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I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸
Rep. Ilhan Omar: “The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked… during World War ELEVEN.” She must have gotten her education in the Quality Learing Center.
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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
"The sea had jeeringly kept his finite body up, but drowned the infinite of his soul. Not drowned entirely, though. Rather carried down alive to wondrous depths, where strange shapes of the unwarped primal world glided to and fro before his passive eyes; and the miser-merman, Wisdom, revealed his hoarded heaps; and among the joyous, heartless, ever-juvenile eternities, Pip saw the multitudinous, God-omnipresent, coral insects, that out of the firmament of waters heaved the colossal orbs. He saw God's foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad. So man's insanity is heaven's sense."
BrendanEich@BrendanEich

“Vengeance on a dumb brute!” cried Starbuck, “that simply smote thee from blindest instinct! Madness! To be enraged with a dumb thing, Captain Ahab, seems blasphemous.” “Hark ye yet again- the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event- in the living act, the undoubted deed- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike though the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there’s naught beyond. But ‘tis enough. He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I’d strike the sun if it insulted me.”

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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
“Vengeance on a dumb brute!” cried Starbuck, “that simply smote thee from blindest instinct! Madness! To be enraged with a dumb thing, Captain Ahab, seems blasphemous.” “Hark ye yet again- the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event- in the living act, the undoubted deed- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike though the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there’s naught beyond. But ‘tis enough. He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I’d strike the sun if it insulted me.”
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QuackyQuacky1@QuackyQuacky1·
@BrendanEich @brave @fanboynz I would have thought the scrollbar would be built-in to the browser. In the past web browsers used the same plain OS one which worked fine. The one I linked is very difficult to see on low contrast laptop screens (500:1) and is extremely thin.
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QuackyQuacky1@QuackyQuacky1·
@BrendanEich @brave Please can you give us an option in settings to use the browser's built-in scrollbar instead the custom one some websites force us to use. Some scrollbars are incredibly thin and the contrast between the colours is awful e.g: dds.finance/p/the-forever-…
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John Malone
John Malone@john_malone·
I prefer frenemies anyways. It's a much nicer term.
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BrendanEich@BrendanEich·
“What I cannot tell you is how 147 of those bottles left the building during an active shooter evacuation.” Reminder: Peter writes in “I am a…” style with good information, but /s on identity.
Peter Girnus 🦅@gothburz

I am a senior coordinating producer for the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner. I have worked eleven of these. I was backstage at the Washington Hilton when the shots were fired. The first thing I heard was not the gunfire. It was glass. A champagne flute hit the floor of the International Ballroom at approximately 9:47 PM. Then a second. Then the sound that I have since been told was a 12-gauge shotgun, which from inside the ballroom sounded like a heavy door slamming in a parking garage. Then the Secret Service moved. They moved the President, the Vice President, the First Lady through the east corridor in under ninety seconds, which is protocol, which is practiced, which is the one part of the evening that worked exactly as it was designed. Everything else was improvised. I know this because I ordered the wine. 94 tables. Two bottles per table. 188 bottles of a Willamette Valley pinot noir that the Association selected in February after a tasting committee spent three meetings debating between Oregon and Burgundy. Oregon won. The budget was $14,200. I signed the invoice. I can tell you the vintage. I can tell you the distributor. I can tell you the per-bottle cost because I negotiated it down from $89 to $76. What I cannot tell you is how 147 of those bottles left the building during an active shooter evacuation. I can tell you what I saw. A correspondent from a network I will not name picked up two bottles on her way to the east exit. Full bottles. One in each hand. She was wearing heels and she did not spill. A man in a tuxedo tucked one inside his jacket the way you'd shoplift a paperback at an airport bookstore. A woman picked up a bottle, looked at the label, put it back, and took a different one. She checked the vintage. During an evacuation. That's editorial judgment under pressure. The theme of the dinner was "A Free Press for a Free People." The banners were still hanging when the evacuation began. I know because I hung them. Twenty-three banners, navy blue, gold serif lettering, $11,400 for the set. They were still hanging when 2,600 guests were directed to the exits by Secret Service agents, one of whom had just taken a shotgun round in his ballistic vest and walked to the ambulance on his own feet. The agent's vest costs approximately $800. The wine that left the building was worth $11,172 at Association cost. At restaurant markup, roughly $29,000. The guests saved more in wine than the vest that saved the agent. That's priority. The video went viral by 10:15 PM. Not the video of the evacuation. Not the Secret Service response. The wine. Three guests in formalwear grabbing bottles off white tablecloths while being told to move toward the exits, while a man with a shotgun stood in the same motor entrance where John Hinckley shot Ronald Reagan 45 years ago. A woman near the service entrance was crying. She said "I just wanna go home." She was not holding wine. She was holding her phone. She was the only person I saw that night who looked afraid rather than inconvenienced. That's the distinction. The rest of the ballroom did not look afraid. They looked interrupted. An active shooter at the WHCD is a logistical problem. The dinner was disrupted. The timeline was off. The after-party at the French Ambassador's residence would need to be rescheduled. These are contingency matters. Contingency matters have solutions. Fear is for people who attend events without security details. I have produced eleven of these dinners. I have managed seating charts that require diplomatic-grade negotiations. I have handled comedians, cabinet secretaries, network anchors, and the editor of a major newspaper who once threatened to leave because his table was behind a column. I have never, in eleven years, seen a guest leave a $76 bottle on the table during an evacuation. I have also never seen a guest check the label first. Both observations are consistent. The bottle is worth taking. The evacuation is worth surviving. The instinct is to do both simultaneously. 188 bottles placed. 41 recovered. 147 unaccounted for. One agent shot. Zero guests injured. Zero bottles broken. A free press for a free people. The press is free. The wine was $76 a bottle. They took it anyway.

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@JustJake @sovrgnmind @pmarca YOLO caveman off a cliff or eaten by wolves. Darwinian feedback loop, best case. Software upped the ante, more power over matter, which led to cutting out h/w safeties in the Therac-25 case, resulting in disaster. Agentic misfires will put (possibly bad reg-law) checks on YOLO.
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