@JesuitJunkrat Don't expect conceptual engagement from the texts with him. He throws things out to see what sticks, sadly. Seemingly not a serious engager.
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Could you elaborate on what you think this does for your argument against the Eucharist?
Alton T. Johnson@AL_J82
@88mph121 Oops....
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@RevReads289 Have the righteousness whereby God is righteous himself. x.com/i/status/20235…
Street Fighta@eek4436
@dgh5391 @jesserandolph_ To receive the uncreated righteousness of God the Word. "To declare His righteousness. What is declaring of righteousness? Like the declaring of His riches, not only for Him to be rich Himself, but also to make others rich, or of life, not only that He is Himself living,
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@RevReads289 You're getting at something. You don't need forensic imputation, period.
There is another way.
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Street Fighta@eek4436
St Maximus the Confessor On the Cosmic Mystery of Christ Ad Thalassium 42 On Jesus Christ, the new Adam who "became sin" Having originally been corrupted from its natural design, Adam's free choice (προαίρεσις) corrupted along with it our human nature, which forfeited the
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Why do I deny the imputation of Adam's guilt?
It's wrong to condemn someone for a sin they did not commit.
Why do I accept the imputation of Christ's righteousness?
It's glorious to give someone grace and mercy that is underserved.
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@MarkMacdonald75 @rootcausesleuth @mpdesmond @ReformedCaio Also, why would you want an earned righteousness that's had by Christ obeying the law in your place? Why not have God's actual righteousness whereby he's righteous?
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Street Fighta@eek4436
@dgh5391 @jesserandolph_ To receive the uncreated righteousness of God the Word. "To declare His righteousness. What is declaring of righteousness? Like the declaring of His riches, not only for Him to be rich Himself, but also to make others rich, or of life, not only that He is Himself living,
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@MarkMacdonald75 @rootcausesleuth @mpdesmond @ReformedCaio There is another way that doesn't require forensic imputation.
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Street Fighta@eek4436
St Maximus the Confessor On the Cosmic Mystery of Christ Ad Thalassium 42 On Jesus Christ, the new Adam who "became sin" Having originally been corrupted from its natural design, Adam's free choice (προαίρεσις) corrupted along with it our human nature, which forfeited the
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There are three imputations involved in salvation.
1. The imputation of Adam’s first sin.
2. The imputation of sins to Christ such that He bears their guilt and punishment.
3. The imputation of Christ’s full satisfaction and perfect obedience.
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@EddyEkofo if Anglicanism is just popery, then St. Augustine was a papist - is that fair to say?
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@ruckusofantioch @IFFFMEISTER I would’ve sat down with him and showed him Scripture, he might have changed his mind on somethings, who knows.
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@_matthewpearson @swamthetiber25 @Cheersup2God Out of curiosity, who are these learned men from within her Roman Communion?
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@swamthetiber25 @Cheersup2God Yep. And despite multiple corrections from learned men (even within your own Roman communion) you still deny the truth of PSA. Very unfortunate.
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Therefore when we treat of the merit of Christ, we do not place the beginning in him, but we ascend to the ordination of God as the primary cause, because of his mere good pleasure he appointed a Mediator to purchase salvation for us.
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He who made him (without any antecedent merit in his will) of the seed of David a righteous man never to be unrighteous, also converts those who are members of his head from unrighteous into righteous” and so forth.
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Christ rightly and properly said to have merited grace
Institutes 2.17.1
1. A question must here be considered by way of supplement. Some men too much given to subtilty, while they admit that we obtain salvation through Christ, will not hear of the name of merit,
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it is simple, but not easy
AB@AB84
Without drugs... what is the greatest weapon against anxiety and depression?
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@jackrwilkie You could say it was decreed that he should misunderstand? 😁🤣
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I'm still trying to figure out if Jeremiah misunderstood every analogy on purpose, or if they really went over his head
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@altobelli_mark @swamthetiber25 @Crazypostalbob That he became a curse or that he was made sin is not in dispute. It's conceptually what PSA entails, that is.
St Maximus has a wonderful exposition on 2 Cor 5:21
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Street Fighta@eek4436
St Maximus the Confessor On the Cosmic Mystery of Christ Ad Thalassium 42 On Jesus Christ, the new Adam who "became sin" Having originally been corrupted from its natural design, Adam's free choice (προαίρεσις) corrupted along with it our human nature, which forfeited the
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@swamthetiber25 @Crazypostalbob The actual word in Galatians is curse...he *became* a curse for *us*. HIS PEOPLE (that devilish reformed TRUTH that you hate)
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I abhor reformed theology more than just about anything else on Earth.
Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) is problematic because it can imply a division within the Trinity, portraying the Father as punishing the Son rather than acting in perfect unity of will and love. It frames forgiveness as dependent on satisfying divine wrath through violence instead of as a free act of mercy, and can suggest God is bound by an external standard above Himself of retributive justice. It also raises coherence issues, such as how Christ’s finite suffering could satisfy an eternal penalty, and moral concerns about punishing the innocent when guilt cannot be transferred. Biblically and historically, PSA is difficult find as well.
𝕄𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕪@yesiwetmyplants
Either Christ bore your punishment, or you will. When Jesus hung on the cross, it wasn’t an example of just love only, it was substitution. He was wounded for transgressions that weren’t His. He was crushed for sins He never committed. That’s why the cross matters. If Jesus didn’t actually take the wrath you deserve for your sins, then that wrath still stands against you. God’s justice doesn’t disappear. Sin must be punished. The only question is, was it punished in Christ, or will it be punished in you?
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@VaclavzAmeriky @Regida_1 @Alex_Ortodoxie @Acolyte83349490 I don't know who's taken longer. TOP or Anthony Rogers on sola fide in the church fathers....
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@VaclavzAmeriky @Regida_1 @Alex_Ortodoxie @Acolyte83349490 TOP was supposed to do a response on Sola Scriptura to Perry, and it's been about 4 years.
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“Saint” Origen.
Guys, let @Alex_Ortodoxie be the last person who engages with this clown.
The Other Paul@TheOtherPaul2
@cowboysforghana It's really not. Per St. Origen, I close the eyes of sense and open the eyes of the soul.
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