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@TwinkTheory Well yeah why wouldn't we be

Zoomers are so jealous of millennials vibes and that we experienced the final years before civilizational collapse really set in

@eeq16bTY7v No I specifically address that two posts down. That stuff is often great, the problem is that its not broadcast on a large scale/influential on the mainstream in the way the indie rock and cloud rap equivalents for millennials were.

@heaveninterface You’re just not tapped in, 2021 summrs and the whole pluggnb wave were so generational but you probably never even heard of it because they were all independent and shit wasn’t getting advertised, that’s all your argument is about though, what gets advertised so you hear about it

This meme is a massive cope. Like it or not millennials have successfully defined culture probably for the next couple of decades in the same manner as their boomer parents, and once the wealth of the boomers is transferred down through inheritance the millennial vanguard will fully be cemented. Zoomers have yet to create any truly lasting or meaningful cultural output despite the fact that the oldest zoomers are turning 30 this year.

@coasterlo0p Spot on. This is basically what I'd hoped for with the tech developments from the mid/late 2010s until now, that they'd be a way to essentially repeat the process that had propelled millennials, but so far it hasn't quite panned out. Still could though but we'll have to see.

@heaveninterface Yeah, 2010s internet let a lot of millennials into the culture young (Skrillex/Flume/Dunham/Chazelle/Gerwig) but zoomers were priced out/markets matured before they could get in. A tech paradigm shift is needed if zoomers are to get a culture foothold atp but it looks unlikely

If Mr Beast and Kylie Jenner are the greatest Gen Z cultural icons that's pretty depressing, especially compared to the millennials. My point is that the good cultural stuff Gen Z is making is far more obscure than their millennial counterparts. A lot of the best millennial cultural figures were widely known, or at least very respected in their artistic area.

@heaveninterface look up a list or some then dude because there’s actually too many. if u want me to try being completely objective about it i guess Mr Beast or Kylie Jenner or something but i consider that a negative impact

@nazjerit Yeah these are cool inventors but I'm talking culturally. Eg artists musicians etc

@heaveninterface impact more than just entertainment or the west people like Dasia Taylor, Fiona Ferreira, Easton LaChappelle etc have all made pretty crazy advancement in different fields. im not even gonna bother w the tech bro ones since thats just printing money rn

@nazjerit What do you think is the most significant thing made by a zoomer?

@heaveninterface wait nvm u claim to b a zoomer but then i don’t get why u said nothing of cultural significance has been produced since you should know firsthand

@Clipart_Bear This is the most pessimistic view I suppose yeah.

@heaveninterface Hyperpop is directly downstream of PC music/vaporwave stuff All the Nu-hiphop is directly downstream of trap and mumblecore Gen Z has the same relationship with millennials as Gen X did to boomers, reheating nachos etc

@phendetta LOL

@heaveninterface The oldest zoomers youre thinking of are still millennials, the oldest actual zoomers are turning 21

The closest we've gotten is probably some music, especially the weirder, experimental corners of SoundCloud rap, or the hyperpop/electronic lineage. But these have come nowhere near the titanic influence that millennial music held over culture (and still does).

I say this as a zoomer who wants nothing more than for my generation to produce something truly meaningful and lasting on the level that millennials did regularly. Part of the problem is simply circumstance - Gen Z was born into a time of far less favorable conditions than Gen Y. But a large part of it, which zoomers have to face honestly, is that there simply haven't been any real attempts at making important things from our generation.

Cities will get larger, sky-scrapers bigger and they will hide the rays, emitting their own. And men will write "metaphysics of the sun" and "on the great proofs of the sun's existence" and "on the sun's inexistence" and "the sun delusion".

@pachabelcanon Fire walk with me

German mysticism has a tendency to bewilder, but American mysticism would drive a man mad

@Y2K_mindset I think they already did that at the Whitney!

I am planning to rent out a whole theater to watch this with some of you. Who is interested?

Did you guys know about this

@changed_radiant @AeonBaudrillard

I find it very amusing how Baudrillard has the same writing style as conspiracists. Prefacing his non-position with almost paranoiac implications of malfeasance, I see where the gnostic accusations come from.

... Apocalypse is only secondarily the end of the game, but primarily the substrate the game is running on.

Petition to let philosophers compile the dictionary. Until then, a moratorium on the use of all concepts. Admittedly, this will take thousands of years. Patience! Patience!