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This is my current understanding of the various AI coding tools:
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Stefano Saitta
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Stefano Saitta
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Software Engineer, Founder & Jiu-Jitsu guy. All at once. CTO @ MAAT (https://t.co/JpsdEVwIak)
London, UK Katılım Eylül 2024
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@fjzeit I agree on all points and I believe they also shared a common root cause, lack of persistent memory. If left alone they write code by accumulation, because they have no judgement nor take in consideration previous decisions and tech debt.
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some examples:
- complexity: it always writes more code than is required. more often than not also choosing to write junior level code.
- accrued complexity: it rarely refactors or simplifies code when adding features or even fixing bugs. instead it creates more code.
- doomcoding: given time and no steer it drifts a code base into a nightmare of unnecessary execution paths, patches, and bad decisions.
it's not even on par with the average senior, not on part with a good mid, and probably on par with a junior - but without the progressive learning and improvement.
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@fjzeit Also is not even that is not true, is that is impossible to prove definitively. If I write code assisted by AI is still my code in the general sense. So doesn’t even matter if they can write better code or not, if they can I will write better code, if they can’t than is baseline
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@fjzeit I’m not implying that you could not be right, just that I’d love to see it. I’m confident that exists a sub-set of code which AI writes that is better than what some humans have written, maybe not all humans and most likely not you.
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@fjzeit Actually better, another human which is not you. As there is not a definition of “better” in code, you saying that is not true is your subjective point of view by definition. As would be mine after seeing your code and compare it with the one produced by a gradient descent
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@fjzeit Your reply implies that gradient descent can’t write code better than you (a human) yet. I, a human and not a gradient descent, would like to see your code to judge for myself if that’s true or not.
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@shengkun_ye @base For the network. Capital has always been easier to get.
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I want to build something new and can’t think of anything it’s the worst feeling
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@kapilansh_twt Try it. Do a weekend challenge with a friend to build the same thing, try as hard as possible to make it the same. Than ask a third friend to be the judge and choose the best version and if they can notice any difference at all. You’d be surprised
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People don’t understand that a large portion of tech is there to solve an organisational challenge not a technical one.
Other examples:
- micro services
- kubernetes
- bff
Theo - t3.gg@theo
@yacineMTB GraphQL largely solved political problems at big companies. Was very good at that. If you own both the client and the server, makes much less sense.
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@justalexoki Cause it’s useful when you have a certain set of problems that almost nobody has.
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I hate graphql so much. why did it even become a thing
kache@yacineMTB
Graphql is genuinely the most retarded idea ever. There used to be an entire career around graphql Honestly the best part about automating programmers is that I don't have to hire people, which means that I don't have to tolerate bad engineering decisions
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@interro_9 His and the quoted positions are stupid, but socialism always results in EVERYONE becoming extremely poor over time except those few in elected power who use their authoritarian monopoly on violence to hold power. Capitalism gives people a chance.
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"but im a white guy working on ai"
you can only fucking lol at something so incomprehensibly ignorant and out of touch
let me get this straight–
you were born and raised in quebec, and had the good fortune to study at mcgill - literally one of the world's best universities - for less than $5000 a year.
then you did graduate studies at waterloo - canada's top school for computer science, and earned a masters in maths and a phd there.
you then went on to move to America, work for Google, and later started your own ai company.
and the narrative you want to weave around your upbringing and training is that you ESCAPED canadian socialism?
so the socialism was good enough for you to grow up safe, have healthcare, receive a literal world-class education that helped you into one of the top technology firms in the world, but is also so bad that america has a moral imperative to ensure you, a technologist working there, should be granted permanent residency.
and if your lack of gratitude for your upbringing wasnt enough, you were promoting a presidential candidate who was vehemently opposed to immigration – while you, an immigrant, were staying in their country with a temporary visa.
i guess you can be smart enough to work on ai and quantum computing but still be dumb enough to not only think these things, but actually post them on twitter expecting sympathy
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezos
Feeling robbed of my path to citizenship right now after grinding a PhD and contributing to foundational AI + computing technologies for the United States for the past ~ 10 years. Feels like robbing top and technologists like me of the opportunity to achieve the American Dream.
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Google uses JavaScript.
Meta uses JavaScript.
Netflix uses JavaScript.
LinkedIn uses JavaScript.
PayPal uses JavaScript.
Uber uses JavaScript.
Airbnb uses Javascript.
Spotify uses JavaScript.
Amazon uses JavaScript.
Microsoft uses JavaScript.
Still avoiding JavaScript in 2026?
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