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2 Corinthians 12:9 NIV But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.

@danitreweek I wonder what Jesus thinks about words and theology that everyday people don’t understand? Not really His style…

Most people weighing in on theology of concupiscence are simply evidencing how little theology they know about concupiscence.

@PierreGira83610 @shane_pruitt78

@sidebeliever @shane_pruitt78 Which Church?

Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, but being a Christian should make you want to go to church.

@mharts88 @ShengDynasty @ostrachan 🙄

@sidebeliever @ShengDynasty @ostrachan That’s the argument of someone in denial. Living this denial on the internet won’t help anyone. Study the Word and be discipled by someone further in their faith. Not just someone that affirms your beliefs but that affirms the Word.

There is no such thing as a "gay Christian."

@craiginite You’re not in my shoes, so please don’t tell me what it’s like to walk in them. Slippery slope? No, my faith and salvation in Christ are secure.

@sidebeliever It doesn't matter what we think. It matters what the Bible teaches and what God thinks. You are on a very slippery slope. I would not want to be in your shoes.

There are no "gay Christians"--there are only "Christians" (no modifier) who must battle the flesh in a thousand ways, including heterosexual lust, homosexuality, vengeance, pride, idolatry, doubt, anxiety, gluttony, anger, cowardice, man-centeredness, deception, and much more.

Christopher Yuen is an immature grifter and I have absolutely no respect for him or anything he says. He’s petty and unChristlike on a consistent basis, but couches his attacks in “calling out wolves.” He drags Preston Sprinkle all the time, but has refused multiple invitations from Preston for live discussions.

@sidebeliever @cmanuelhill @ostrachan As @christopheryuan says, there are no gay people. There are people who do gay things. When we tie our identity to something other than Jesus, it’s a sin. Separating identity and action is important.

@mharts88 @ShengDynasty @ostrachan You’re really not getting this…

@ShengDynasty @sidebeliever @ostrachan He is openly admitting and promoting sin. Sin is sin whether you want that sin to be acknowledged or not.

@excelsimonifade @shane_pruitt78 If you’ve not seen, search Sam Allberry and read the opinions from the majority of “loving” brothers and sisters in Christ. That’s my church reality - that’s why.

@sidebeliever @shane_pruitt78 Why?? What happened

I’m confused, do conservative Christians suddenly not want gay Christians to choose celibacy and affirm traditional views?

@mharts88 @ostrachan Let me say it again for you. I have accepted Jesus, not rejected Him. Read it again. Is that clear? I am celibate. Do you know the definition of that word? It means I don’t have sex with anyone. Is that also clear? How am I mocking Christ?

@sidebeliever @ostrachan Speaking the truth is not condescending just because it’s something you don’t like to hear. You will know them by their fruit. A person that wakes up and chooses to reject Jesus and his word and choose sexual deviance instead is mocking Christ.

@PierreGira83610 @DefiantBaptist @jaredhmoore 😢Thank you. I'm deeply humbled and grateful for your discernment, empathy, and kindness. Blessings.

In other words, the only way to endure this undeserved trial of SSA—like Job’s—is to rely on Christ through faith alone. I sincerely sympathize with the bitterness of your situation, but there is nothing I can do except pray and try to support you in the struggle surrounding this terrible affliction of SSA for a Christian.

I sure feel the love of Jesus from this guy.

@PierreGira83610 @DefiantBaptist @jaredhmoore Pierre, I'm a simple, borderline white trash American. You're going to have to speak more plainly for me to understand what you're trying to say.

@sidebeliever @DefiantBaptist @jaredhmoore You are reliving Job’s ordeal, which only Habakkuk—foreshadowing the New Testament—makes it possible to endure: Hab.2/4. Online, we can only offer you some temporary solutions. After all, we’re thousands of miles away from you

Is it ok that he believes this and you don't? I'm gay, I'm a Christian and it's the path I've decided to walk. Does that make me a "self-hating fag" or someone who just doesn't think like you? I understand if you don't believe in God, the Bible, Jesus, or any of it. That's fine, that's your choice. Is it necessary to drag this guy because you don't like his personal beliefs? What's the point?

Blah fucking blah. This dude does have an interesting theory about homosexuality based on his religious beliefs. But I think it's weak and all wrong. He found biblical passages that align with his own self hatred. And good on him. I don't care if he loves himself. But everything he says is based on religious nonsense. If it were 20 years ago, he'd be an ex-gay. But that doesn't sell anymore and he's doing what most self-hating fags do now: he's telling us there is a better way as long as we agree with his convoluted reading of scripture. He's nothing more than a religious nut job and should be regarded as such.

@HambleNylanyh7 @ostrachan Are you happy? What does that even mean?

@sidebeliever @ostrachan But while you are here you should strive to be happy. It’s worth searching for the right person

Dude, seriously? What is my sin? I'm celibate. I'm attracted to guys, but it's not something I ever wanted or chose. In fact, I have been at war with it for over 50 years. You have no idea what I've been through or what it's like to deal with this but you toss out these ridiculous comments. Do you even care or have any interest in what it's like to try and walk this out? Or is being a "faithful Christian" lobbing bullshit comments at me from a safe distance? Put up or shut up. Educate yourself by actually talking with some gay people and respond in a way that shows you actually care and understand or please just sit down and stay in your shiny-happy Christian lane.

@sidebeliever @jaredhmoore You need to learn to hate your sin more than you hate faithful Christians. Otherwise, you’ll end up like Allberry.

I've had relationships, but I was either the side person or they had a side person. It's just people using people. Even if you find someone who is monogamous, which would be nice, it's only temporary. We all face death and the afterlife alone. I assume you don't believe in life after death, but I do, and like I said, eternity is a very long time.

@sidebeliever @ostrachan You’d be better finding someone who is real who can support and love you

@DefiantBaptist @jaredhmoore I'm my worst enemy and critic, but I know a self-righteous narcissist when I see one.

@sidebeliever @jaredhmoore So you have no self-awareness. Neat.

@AndrewGempton @jaredhmoore You have more grace and patience than I do.

@sidebeliever @jaredhmoore I get it. Unfortunately we have to extend the grace to others that is often not extended to us. We need to be humble and teachable, but we also need to call out double standards and remember that people singling out those of us with SSA have no righteousness of their own.

@Ngamini2004 This is not true. Where did you see or hear this? "The Side B movement would tell him to not fight this attraction. To feed it. Coddle it. Make it his identity. And do that for the rest of his life."

Well first I think it would be helpful to define same sex attraction. Same sex attraction is having a sexual attraction to the same sex. That may seem elementary but it’s not. But the attraction isn’t the same thing as lust. Lust involves actively desiring something. Same sex attraction is someone seeing a guy and feeling aroused sexually by them. Same sex desire is when that temptation turns into a desire to be with them. That’s lust. Being attracted to the same sex is a temptation. Desiring to have sex with the same sex (or the opposite sex if you aren’t married) is lust. The temptation should be resisted otherwise it will lead to lust. But they are not the same thing. The key is desire. Same sex attraction isn’t same sex desire. It isn’t wanting to have sex with a guy. It can lead to that. But there can be someone who is same sex attracted but doesn’t want to have sex with a guy for moral reasons. Let me give an illustration: Let’s say a guy comes out of a gay lifestyle and is saved. And let’s say that he’s out walking on the beach and he sees a man he finds attractive. So he sees this guy and feels aroused by him. That attraction is a temptation he’s facing. But He’s not sinning at this point. This temptation came to him and seeks a resting place in his heart. At that point, he has a choice to make. He can either feed that attraction or deny it. The Side B movement would tell him to not fight this attraction. To feed it. Coddle it. Make it his identity. And do that for the rest of his life. If he does that, then it will lead to him to move into desire. Where he actively wants to have sex with this person. At that point he is sinning, because he’s taking that temptation and feeding it. And given enough time, that lust will lead to him acting on it. Either through pornography, or physically. And wreck him spiritually. So that’s his first choice. Coddle it. The second choice is for him to say no to the temptation of the attraction and resist it. That’s what Scripture counsels him to do for all lust. And over time as he does that, it will become easier to do so. Maybe that temptation will go away with time. I know people for whom it has. But if it doesn’t, and he’s 90 years old and still is attracted to men, that isn’t a failure on God’s part. God doesn’t promise that the flesh will be eradicated in this life. But the more you exercise the muscle of saying no to temptation, the easier it usually gets. But regardless, this man is still responsible to resist that temptation. So what is same sex attraction? It’s a temptation. It’s one of the many different temptations that affect us in this fallen world. Different people deal with different temptations. But with all that being said, I still wouldn’t call same sex attraction morally neutral. Because while it is not sinful, it is an attraction that is geared towards something that is sinful. Let me give an example. Let’s say there’s a 25 year old married dude. He’s out on the beach and he sees a lady and he feels sexual attraction to her. That feeling isn’t a sin. It’s a temptation. But it’s not morally neutral. Because he’s attracted to doing something that is sinful. Having sex with someone other than his wife. So it’s not morally neutral. And If it leads to him desiring her and undressing her in his mind, that it becomes a sin. Jesus said if you look at a woman to lust after her, you’ve committed adultery with her in your heart. (Matthew 5:27). Lust is a serious sin. But it’s not the same thing as sexual arousal. So same sex attraction isn’t a sin. But it’s still a temptation and it should be resisted in the power of the Holy Spirit. Just like I’d tell a married heterosexual man that he should resist feeling sexually attracted to anyone that isn’t his wife. I could say more on this but those are my basic thoughts on the question of same sex attraction.

Yes, not my best decision, and I deleted the comment. He's a pastor, so I expect more - maybe that's foolish on my part. Preston Sprinkle is not a perfect person, but he has helped and supported countless LGBT people and parents of LGBT kids walk this journey. I find the attacks and libel uncharitable and unwarranted.

@sidebeliever @jaredhmoore Hmm, I’d say a brother in Christ who struggles with pride, grace, humility and gentleness like all of us do in our own way. I completely understand and feel the deep pain and anger from such closed ears, hard hearts and relentless attacks, but we appeal to Jesus, not men. 💚🙏